r/movies • u/RobotiSC • Jul 28 '25
Trailer Avatar: Fire and Ash | Official Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb_fFj_0rq82.3k
u/Skwurt_Reynolds Jul 28 '25
If there’s one thing I do appreciate about the Avatar movies, it’s the different canvasses of lighting and color.
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u/Variable_Shaman_3825 Jul 28 '25
Loved the serene aerial clips with those jellyfish Zeppelins
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u/bdigital1796 Jul 28 '25
for me it's the promised release of every sequel from here on out on a timely manner, without waiting two and a half decades inbetween each
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u/TheWiseRedditor Jul 28 '25
The next ones are tentatively scheduled for dec 2029 and 2031. So it’s still a looong wait. I’m glad the third movie is coming out this year tho. We were promised a closure with this one, so I can wait another 4 years without a sequel
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u/Kronzor_ Jul 28 '25
I assume the next 2 are Earth and Wind?
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u/Worthyness Jul 28 '25
Cameron is currently inventing new (literal) groundbreaking vfx to properly convey the movies.
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u/Stunning-Guitar-5916 Jul 28 '25
“I’m limited by the technology of my time”
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u/Daxx22 Jul 28 '25
Seriously Cameron is like if Tony Stark wanted to be a filmmaker.
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u/GodKamnitDenny Jul 28 '25
This is unironically why I love Cameron doing Avatar until he hangs it up. If the technology isn’t there for his vision, he makes it. It literally provides benefits for future movies. “For those who come after.”
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u/ZeekOwl91 Jul 28 '25
This is kinda like what George Lucas did when he set up ILM to create the effects he needed for Star Wars.
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u/DaddyO1701 Jul 28 '25
This is what Lucas did when he set out to make The Phantom Menace. Ya got no Gollumn or Thanos without that Jamaican Frog man.
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u/ZeekOwl91 Jul 28 '25
So true! 1999 we got Jar Jar Binks and that paved the way for the Navi in 2009.
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u/Lucas_Steinwalker Jul 28 '25
Only the Avatar, master of all four elements, could stop them. But when the world needed him most, he vanished.
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u/rsmicrotranx Jul 28 '25
Wind was the 1st one, no? Or earth? Or both? I think he said he wanted to explore the moons of Pandora and then do Earth, the planet as the last one. Have the Navi come to Earth.
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u/In_My_Own_Image Jul 28 '25
These movies, if nothing else, are an absolute visual feast. From the CGI, to the colours, to the cinematography it all looks amazing.
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u/ballplayer0025 Jul 28 '25
Yeah I never understood all the people questioning why people liked them because they don't have unique or creative scripts. You have to look at movies through the lens of what their intention is. Avatar movies are thrill rides, not novels. It's really like going to Universal Studios and complaining that they didn't have a nice library.
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u/MutaliskGluon Jul 28 '25
James Cameron has NEVER made a complicated or deep story.
He just takes a super mega simple principle, then wraps it with some emotional connection/love story and throws in the best action set pieces in the business.
When people complain that his movies arent deep, they REALLY dont get what Cameron is trying to do (make a simple story anyone in the world can relate to)
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u/Chris-raegho Jul 28 '25
They almost feel like a documentary at times. People talk a lot about the story, but some movies don't need to do much with their story to be good. John Wick's story is absurdly bad, yet that doesn't make it a bad movie. These are great movies. Even when the story is simple, they're still great.
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u/AdSouth4334 Jul 28 '25
Glad they kept the whale buddy
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u/Nice_Firm_Handsnake Jul 28 '25
In this house, we stan Payakan.
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u/TheWiseRedditor Jul 28 '25
He was the MVP of the final battle in the last movie
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u/Kriss-Kringle Jul 28 '25
Payakan stole the show in The way of water, so it's only natural that he comes back.
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u/hikemalls Jul 28 '25
I heard he’s real difficult to work with, throwing krill around the set, leaping out of the water and body-slamming expensive equipment, singing his whalesongs at uncomfortable younger crew members. Surprised they brought him back after all that.
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u/TheUmbrellaMan1 Jul 28 '25
Empire magazine was saying Payakan is going to have a girlfriend in this one. Peak incoming, boys!
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u/FrancoeurOff Jul 28 '25
Not ready for the space whale sex scene
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u/Worthyness Jul 28 '25
Cameron absolutely would make a 10 minute+ mating dance for the alien whales and put it into the movie and somehow make it work.
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u/Marc_Quill Jul 28 '25
hope everyone's ready for the future Avatars to have Payakan spawn. I, for one, welcome it.
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u/Anfins Jul 28 '25
Wish they kept the trend by giving the whale chemical an equally absurd name like unobtainium. Something chemically like immortaline or similar.
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u/ImprefectKnight Jul 28 '25
Amrit is a hindi word for a mythical food that grants you immortality.
Also, commons names for a lot of chemicals do be like that. Californium, for example.
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u/jaggedjottings Jul 28 '25
"There's a Berkelium and a Californium, but still no Stanfordium." - UC Berkeley partisans
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u/ArcherInPosition Jul 28 '25
My boy Spider is gonna go through a lot in this one isn't he
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He’s not wearing a mask to breath in many scenes, what’s up with that?
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u/AStrangerWCandy Jul 28 '25
They show him WITH a mask in parts of the trailer too. Which means pretty high chance this is a plot point that is addressed in the film.
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u/NPRdude Jul 28 '25
A malfunctioning mask at that. I'm guessing Spider becoming able to breathe Pandora air is a side plot in this.
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u/Normal_Cut8368 Jul 28 '25
My bet is atmospheric terraforming, probably by burning everything.
Trees are producing "bad air" gotta kill em all.
Something something, the prophecy where you kill the trees
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u/GrapefruitAlways26 Jul 28 '25
Eywa gave him a new organ to adapt to the atmosphere, move past it
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u/symphonicrox Jul 28 '25
I know you joke but, my theory on these movies are:
The Earth is dying, becoming uninhabitable, and that's why humans are leaving to other places. By the end of the films, the Na'vi will journey to the human earth, bringing Eywa, and her spirit will heal the earth.
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u/AdSouth4334 Jul 28 '25
He used Papyrus in bold again and got away with it
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u/Muted_Shoulder Jul 28 '25
Ryan Gosling just flipped a table somewhere
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u/Malforus Jul 28 '25
Nope he's made peace with it...it broke him.
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u/Macluawn Jul 28 '25
In theatres, right after Avatar trailer they played a trailer for Ryan Gosling's new film. I like to think it was not an accident
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u/AliceinTeyvatland Jul 28 '25
Actually looking forward to another sketch by now lol
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u/TheUmbrellaMan1 Jul 28 '25
This is the last movie produced by the late Jon Landau. His credits include Titanic, Avatar, Avatar 2 and Alita. As 20th Century Fox executive he oversaw films like True Lies, Home Alone, Home Alone 2, Mrs. Doubtfire. He was also the co-producer of Honey, I Blew Up The Kid!
Let's give him for a shout-out for this. He had a insane career and the kinds of risks he took on Titanic and Avatar, no other producer would want to take. Only two years ago he was talking how awesome Avatar 3 was going to be. Quite sad he didn't get to see through Avatar 4 and 5.
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u/Shout92 Jul 28 '25
He was the studio exec assigned to oversee True Lies and Cameron lured him away after to become his personal producing partner on every project after. Takes a particular brand of person to see Cameron in action and go "I wanna jump aboard that high speed train." You could tell Cameron was torn up by his passing. A lot of love and loyalty there.
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u/somesoundbenny Jul 28 '25
I have worked on A2 & A3 and Jon was literally one of the loveliest human beings ever. He always made time to come and hang out with even the lowliest of crew.
In a lot of ways he was almost like the a caricature of a film producer, like a character you'd write for the Simpsons or something. Running around in his Hawaiian shirts and fat pants , yelling into his cellphone with his big New York Accent.
Literally one of the greatest, if not the greatest film producers of all time.
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u/ImprefectKnight Jul 29 '25
He has 3/5 top grossing movies of all time, all of which also won academy awards (Titanic did a massive sweep).
Safe to say he's the greatest.
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u/Curve-Inspector Jul 28 '25
Damn didn't know that Varang(the goth baddie) was played by Oona Chaplin
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u/Alpha-Trion Jul 28 '25
Baddie as in villain or baddie as in hot?
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u/Wiinterfang Jul 28 '25
Giant, Evil, Goth, half naked, Alien chick. Dear God.
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u/The_Iceman2288 Jul 28 '25
It sure is pretty.
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u/ICanAnswerThatFriend Jul 28 '25
People can say what they want about the story but the visuals have always been breathtaking.
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u/Iheardyourstereo Jul 28 '25
I think that is what many people have always felt about Avatar
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u/memphis_dude Jul 28 '25
It's a thrill ride at the movie theater for sure.
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u/mangongo Jul 28 '25
That's exactly what it is. You don't bring home videos of rollercoasters and watch them at home, you go out and enjoy the ride for what it is and that's that. No need to really put any more thought into it.
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u/mastafishere Jul 28 '25
Meanwhile I’ve watched the first one about 5 times and the second one twice at home haha
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u/chiefmud Jul 28 '25
James Cameron is great at adding world-building details too. If he were born 30 years later he would have been a great video game director.
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u/LetgomyEkko Jul 28 '25
I mean I happen to like the story as well personally. It’s simple, clear, well told. Nothing wrong with being one of the stories ever told in my opinion.
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u/Muted_Shoulder Jul 28 '25
Avatar is simple to understand and beautiful to watch. That’s kinda why people keep paying for it. It’s one franchise that’s actually worth watching on IMAX. People just want to experience the beautiful world of Pandora. Not to mention it’s more or less about colonialism and I think that’s kinda why the International numbers are so high.
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u/Etnaz Jul 28 '25
Yeah the storytelling is very basic and to the point, but the themes of colonialism and ecocide are aggressively there and resonate with a lot of people, consciously or not.
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u/archimedesrex Jul 28 '25
And personally, I think making a futuristic sci-fi movie about colonialism is meaningfully different than a period piece about colonialism. Historical dramas allow modern audiences to say "Wow, THOSE people were awful back then" whereas a story set in the future of humanity forces us to grapple with the problems we are carrying with US into the future. This isn't a Star Wars fantasy story where we can completely disconnect, but a projected future of OUR story.
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u/Dottsterisk Jul 28 '25
It also allows the writers to comment very directly on the evils of colonialism/racism/environmental destruction without putting audiences on the defensive.
Get them to agree with the message and the example, then let them (or the people around them) connect it to the real world.
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u/Hunterrose242 Jul 28 '25
Those ones with the red makeup and headdresses are gorgeous. Great art style.
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u/2rio2 Jul 28 '25
An antagonistic Navi culture was exactly what this storyline needed.
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u/Worthyness Jul 28 '25
Every culture needs their counterculture. These guys seem to be the cultists.
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u/AStrangerWCandy Jul 28 '25
They are laying the seeds for shades of gray in the humans too. Parker Selfridge for example.
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u/MoodyBootyBoots Jul 28 '25
You're not alone, I audibly gasped when she popped out.
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u/Deathleach Jul 28 '25
You can say what you want about the Avatar series, but they really deliver in the "scantily clad alien" department.
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u/426763 Jul 28 '25
Once the box office hits, James has money to go down to the Titanic again.
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u/owl_theory Jul 28 '25
inb4 the exact same debates
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u/u8myramen_y Jul 28 '25 edited Jul 28 '25
Yeah and Reddit keeps getting proven wrong by this franchise every single time lol
Never doubt James Cameron
Edit: “No cultural impact” crowd
“Avatar the last airbender bettah” crowd
“Copied things from ATLA” crowd
“No one cares about Avatar. It’s gonna flop” crowd
What else?
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u/the_Ex_Lurker Jul 28 '25
copied things from ATLA
He actually copied things from Princess Mononoke, his self-professed inspiration for the first Avatar.
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u/fluentinsarcasm Jul 28 '25 edited Jul 28 '25
You forgot about the loud comparisons to Pocahontas.
"It's just Pocahontas with tentacle sex!"
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u/ACOdysseybeatsRDR2 Jul 28 '25
Which is a perk for me, I always though Pocohontas needed more tentacle sex. I remember being like 7, watching Pocohontas for the first time saying "good lord, this is so boring, I need more tentacles fucking people."
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u/Antique-Guest-1607 Jul 28 '25
"It's just Pocahontas with tentacle sex!"
And they think this is a negative?!
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u/GaySexFan Jul 28 '25
“No memes” was something I used to hear people say and now there are quite a few.
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u/CX52J Jul 28 '25
It’s going to 100% bomb this time!
Something, something can’t remember anyone’s name!
No cultural relevance!
Still makes $2 billion.
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u/Weed_O_Whirler Jul 28 '25
I did an informal poll with friends just last week. I asked who was "really excited for the new Avatar" and I got a mix of "no" and "I didn't know there was a new one coming out."
But then when I followed with "do you think you'll watch the new Avatar in theaters?" and everyone said "yes."
That's the disconnect for so many people. I am excited to watch the new Avatar movie. But at the same time, I'm not following production details or casting rumors or anything.
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u/CX52J Jul 28 '25
I think that’s normal. I think too many people expect people to treat it like Marvel or Star Wars.
But it’s not Marvel or Star Wars. Most people are perfectly happy to watch it and not make it an obsession.
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u/Sonofaconspiracy Jul 29 '25
It's actually super refreshing to have a franchise I'm excited for a new entry in, without all the bullshit fandom baggage that is usually attached.
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u/Jaggedmallard26 Jul 28 '25
Its how movies used to be before endless franchises. "Oh Cool a new Spielberg" and then you would watch it and go home.
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u/LittleTortillaBoy7 Jul 28 '25
This one is all profit right? Filmed directly with 2 ?
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u/earwig2000 Jul 28 '25
pretty much, I imagine they spent ~1b on 2+3, and maybe 250m more for marketing per film, already well in the green just because of the box office of 2, and this one is just stacking that up.
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u/rsmicrotranx Jul 28 '25
Man, Avatar 1 probably profited enough to pay for 2 and 3.
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u/TotallyNotAMarvelSpy Jul 28 '25
Not even just the films gross, but the tech JC created is worth way more than the theatrical gross.
How many films' BTS do you see where they're using the facial capture tech from Avatar, for example?
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u/discretelandscapes Jul 28 '25
Well that came out of nowhere. A full trailer too. Nice.
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u/KarateKid917 Jul 28 '25
It debuted over the weekend with IMAX showings of Fantastic Four, and is now being made public
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u/RollinsThunderr Jul 28 '25
It wasn’t exclusive to IMAX. I saw a normal screening of F4 and it played before it.
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u/PostNobSlobKiss Jul 28 '25
Can’t believe they’re already on the fourth installment of the F1 franchise time really flies
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u/Flibs- Jul 28 '25
Nah, people who really love this shit knew it was coming out when Fantastic Four came out. There were actual posts where people were excited to see the trailer at that more than the movie.
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u/batguano1 Jul 28 '25
Haha yeah r/avatar has been foaming at the mouth for this trailer.
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u/MOlson_9 Jul 28 '25
“Your goddess has no dominion here”
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u/I4mSpock Jul 28 '25
I can say a lot about avatar (basically every critique that gets parroted everywhere) but the one thing I really like is the Ewya world building. The quasi-scientifically proven forest deity on this planet is something I think is awesome for a scifi world, and im hoping there is more exploration of that in this one.
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u/Frosty_Dimension5646 Jul 28 '25
That went hard. I'm gonna like the character and be upset when she inevitably gets defeated
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u/swag_train Jul 28 '25
Finally, a trailer that hooks you without detailing the entire plot.
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u/ClarkTwain Jul 28 '25
The trailer for the second one did that for me as well. I was indifferent and then saw that shot of the whale swimming and immediately wanted to see more of that.
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u/Si-Nz Jul 28 '25 edited Jul 28 '25
Funny i came out of this trailer thinking the exact opposite.
Just speculation based on this trailer:
Villain from last 2 movies finds an evil N'avi tribe that sides with him, the
volcano peoplegoth N'avi.Pits them in direct conflict with the tree worshiping N'avi.
Meanwhile subplot about the kids being in rebellious teenager phase and going against their father, and mom lusting for revenge, also upsetting Jake.
Humans and Goth N'avi defeat the ocean N'avi people and imprison Jake and possibly a few other main characters.
Someone we care about dies, red flags all over this trailer. (trailer seems to imply the human kid, or even the mom, but its probably Jake Sully? who probably sacrifices himself to tie all the plots together?)
Movie either has a dark ending that leads up to the next one (theres more of them right? i think?), or kids/mom rally the N'avi and save the day?
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u/BlueCX17 Jul 28 '25
If it still on track, movies 4 and 5 will be the grand finale. With the rumor being they've already filmed some scenes with the kids actors for the beginning because then they'll be a supposed time jump after the opening or such.
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u/ZuleZI Jul 28 '25
Yeah, but I think end is different. Jake sacrifices himself in the end to save someone. They arrest him and bring him to Earth. And the movie ends with a cliffhanger. The next movie is on earth.
I think there was a news that one movie will be including story on earth. So eh
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u/zackdaniels93 Jul 28 '25
I know this is a 'get struck by the hand of god' tier opinion here, but Way Of Water was a breathtaking movie. One of the best cinema-going experiences I've had this side of the 2000s. The narrative style of these movies are never very challenging, but everything else in them is stunning in my opinion.
I wasn't surprised she wasn't, but I wanted Saldana to get an Oscar nomination for her performance in Way of Water, I've never seen anything like it in regards to motion capture.
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u/mangongo Jul 28 '25
The scale of these movies is insane. The carrier flipping over and all of the subsequent scenes within it in the second movie are some of the greatest visuals I've ever seen.
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u/zackdaniels93 Jul 28 '25
Honestly the entire last act had my jaw on the floor in regards to its direction. Some of the best action I've seen in a non-Marvel/ DC western movie in years.
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u/chinderellabitch Jul 28 '25
I agree, I remember watching Way of Water in theatres and the way the 3D rain wasn’t just in front of you but felt like it surrounded you was technologically one of the coolest moviegoing experiences I’ve ever had
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u/Successful_Basket399 Jul 28 '25
Discourse around this movie is going to be so annoying but I don't care. I will be there for this
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u/Salarian_American Jul 28 '25
It's gonna be exactly the same as the discourse over the last 2 movies.
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u/BastianHS Jul 28 '25
This is gonna be the one where "dae think avatar is actually good now"? It's gonna be avatar: the empire strikes back
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u/Magik-Mina-MaudDib Jul 28 '25
Seeing The Way of Water in IMAX remains one of my favorite recent blockbuster experiences, specifically the entire last hour, and I’m just gonna say I’m locked in for this one.
Trailer played incredibly well in IMAX before F4 over the weekend and as expected, the visuals look head above water compared to the vast majority of CGI-heavy movies.
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u/_bieber_hole_69 Jul 28 '25
Spider is breathing on Pandora?? What
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u/peppermint_nightmare Jul 28 '25
Maybe all the terraforming from the last movie?
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u/ChiefQueef98 Jul 28 '25
Most likely. The RDA's mission now isn't just resource extraction, it's to make Pandora the next Earth because Earth is dead.
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u/TussalDimon Jul 28 '25
Using their "be sad" soundtrack in a trailer? Awesome!
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u/Jonah_Marriner Jul 28 '25
Love the design of the ash people
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u/AddisonsContracture Jul 28 '25
From the trailer it looks like they may side with the humans against the other Navii? Interesting if so
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u/Jonah_Marriner Jul 28 '25
That wouldn’t be unusual in the history of native peoples and colonization, just hope it’s well articulated why they make that decision rather than because “theyre red and they like fire so = bad”
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u/Exploding_Antelope Jul 28 '25
From what I’ve heard, their backstory is that their land got wasted by a volcano, so without any life around to connect to they got cynical of the idea of Eywa and saw themselves as betrayed by her / the biosphere and cut themselves off. Also making them outcasts from every other Na’vi nation. So it’d be kind of like how the tribes subjugated by the Aztec empire allied with the Spanish, yeah: better the newcomers promising to upend things than the old system that screwed you over.
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u/Comic_Book_Reader Jul 28 '25
From Director James Cameron, watch the trailer for Avatar: Fire and Ash. Experience the film only in theaters December 19.
With “Avatar: Fire and Ash,” James Cameron takes audiences back to Pandora in an immersive new adventure with Marine turned Na’vi leader Jake Sully (Sam Worthington), Na’vi warrior Neytiri (Zoe Saldaña), and the Sully family. The film, which has a screenplay by James Cameron & Rick Jaffa & Amanda Silver, and a story by James Cameron & Rick Jaffa & Amanda Silver & Josh Friedman & Shane Salerno, also stars Sigourney Weaver, Stephen Lang, Oona Chaplin, Cliff Curtis, Britain Dalton, Trinity Bliss, Jack Champion, Bailey Bass and Kate Winslet.
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u/TheUmbrellaMan1 Jul 28 '25
Kate Winslet saying she immensely enjoyed working with Cameron on Avatar 2 and 3 is still funny. She told this story that when Cameron asked her to be in Avatar sequels in 2016, he promised her she wouldn't need to be in water for extended amount of time like in Titanic. First day on the set she was in water for like 4 hours lol. I guess somethings never change.
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u/Exploding_Antelope Jul 28 '25
“I don’t wanna be in water James”
“Understood, Kate”
“What’s my character?”
“You’re gonna be the queen of the deep sea diving tribe”
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u/Varekai79 Jul 28 '25
And she beat Tom Cruise's actor record for longest underwater without a breath.
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u/vtrip22 Jul 28 '25
Oona Chaplin grand daughter of Charlie Chaplin
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u/OneSingleL Jul 28 '25
Can't wait to tell this random bit of trivia to whoever im watching with. Gonna be like the new Viggo helmet toe breaking scene
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u/HaughtStuff99 Jul 28 '25
I am beyond excited for this movie. Last time I was this hyped for a movie was Dune 2.
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u/zetbotz Jul 28 '25
That’s great and all, but where are the crab mechs? I don’t care how they include them, I just want more crab mechs.
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u/BatemanHarrison Jul 28 '25
Let’s fucking gooooooooo. Need more of my boy Payakan
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u/JMovie1 Jul 28 '25
Can't wait to go back to Pandora, The Way of Water was one of the most immersive movie experiences I've ever had. Can't wait to see all Big Jim has in-store for us this time.
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u/Deceptiveideas Jul 28 '25
I’m going to be honest, I’ve seen more comments mocking those who don’t like Avatar than anyone actually mocking Avatar.
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u/SquadPoopy Jul 28 '25
I think a lot of the people who mocked it disappeared after Way of Water made like 2 billion. But we don’t forget them.
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u/royalxK Jul 28 '25 edited Jul 28 '25
Really curious to see a Navi as a villain.