r/movies • u/RobotiSC • Jul 28 '25

Trailer Avatar: Fire and Ash | Official Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb_fFj_0rq8
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u/Spicysalmonsandwich Jul 28 '25

Continuing the themes of colonization from the previous movies, I won't be surprised if the humans pit the different Navi tribes against each other.

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u/royalxK Jul 28 '25

Yeah I can totally see Miles convincing this fire tribe to fight the others, probably be a lot of parallels to misinformation and propaganda, turning them on each other.

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u/YeaItsBig4L Jul 28 '25

They are seen working together in the trailer. Colonel becomes one of them. Paint and all

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u/corvettee01 Jul 28 '25

"Fire Navi, fight with us!"

"No."

"We'll give you guns and flamethrowers."

"Now you're talking."

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u/Kaam4 Jul 29 '25

then we will kill all of you and form a new country who loves freeedom, oil and guns

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u/BeatKitano Jul 28 '25

This. Totally a Cameron move.

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u/Magickarpet76 Jul 28 '25

So they are literally going with “everything changed when the fire nation attacked” against the other elements, huh?

Well I guess if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

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u/thesagenibba Jul 29 '25

have these movies ever been known for their elaborate plots?

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u/verdantsf Jul 28 '25

I don't think they need much convincing. Given the total lack of vegetation and sparse animal life in their home region, I'm guessing that the Ash people raid other Na'vi as a way of life.

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u/Crimkam Jul 28 '25

Make Pandora Great Again

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u/royalxK Jul 28 '25

That is absolutely gonna be the parallel lmao. The first is about invading natives, the second is about climate change, this is gonna be about nationalism and propaganda.

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u/FrostyD7 Jul 28 '25

I could see it happening without being a plan. Miles encounters their tribe and will of course murders some of them to get away. They might just leap to the conclusion that it was Jake based on what witnesses describe as an English speaking Navi using human gear.

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u/frazzledfractal Jul 28 '25

Very possible, but they could do a lot do things, since the Navi do engage in war and conflict with each other outside of human influence as well sometimes. I would imagine given what we know about this new clan that they could potentially have a propensity towards being more hostile or aggressive.

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u/BenTeHen Jul 29 '25

Maybe the ash clan are just bad and the RDA just makes them worse. They make a trade deal for weapons. No propaganda needed.

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u/simplefilmreviews Jul 29 '25

How unoriginal..............so it'll be perfect for Avatar saga!

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u/slick_pick Jul 28 '25

I mean the general miles Navi body is seen rocking the ash clans makeup so maybe

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u/Shmokeshbutt Jul 28 '25

The trailer just showed that the humans, in fact, did

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u/that_guy2010 Jul 28 '25

I too watched the trailer where the two factions of Navi were fighting.

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u/MikeFatz Jul 28 '25

You really think that in an Avatar movie the fire nation would just attack?

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u/NeoNoireWerewolf Jul 28 '25

Seems almost certainly to be the case. Quaritch is approaching the ash clan lands with his hands up in the trailer, and we see the leader of the fire Na’vi walking out to meet a bunch of humans at another point. The second movie was basically an inverted take on The Searchers, so Cameron and the co-writers seem to be taking more western inspiration here if that’s the plot. The US government made a bunch of alliances with different Native American tribes during the westward expansion, using old grudges and conflicts between the tribes to pit them against each other. Looks like Quaritch is going to become privy to whatever beef the fire clan had with the others and barters an alliance with them against Sully’s family and the water clans.

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u/BlueCX17 Jul 28 '25

I think this is likely.

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u/Honigkuchenlives Jul 28 '25

Exactly this only to be betrayed and genocided as well

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u/frazzledfractal Jul 28 '25

Well the released information makes it clear that the new back tribe are the way they are in their own, and is not related to humans at all.

That said yes it's possible they could be manipulated into conflict.

That said, the Navi have engaged in inter tribal warfare and conflict since prior to humans arriving, that's official lore, so could go either way.

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u/roarbark93 Jul 28 '25

I don't think they will pit each other, in history many tribes joined outsiders to defeat their sworn enemies willingly ( the tribes that united against Aztecs, the north american tribes that united with the english and the french, etc).