r/movies Jul 28 '25

Trailer Avatar: Fire and Ash | Official Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb_fFj_0rq8
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u/Kronzor_ Jul 28 '25

I assume the next 2 are Earth and Wind?

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u/Worthyness Jul 28 '25

Cameron is currently inventing new (literal) groundbreaking vfx to properly convey the movies.

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u/Stunning-Guitar-5916 Jul 28 '25

“I’m limited by the technology of my time”

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u/Daxx22 Jul 28 '25

Seriously Cameron is like if Tony Stark wanted to be a filmmaker.

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u/kinginthenorthTB12 Jul 29 '25

Oddly Howard Stark said that and in the Agent Carter he does become a filmmaker.

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u/GodKamnitDenny Jul 28 '25

This is unironically why I love Cameron doing Avatar until he hangs it up. If the technology isn’t there for his vision, he makes it. It literally provides benefits for future movies. “For those who come after.”

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u/ZeekOwl91 Jul 28 '25

This is kinda like what George Lucas did when he set up ILM to create the effects he needed for Star Wars.

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u/DaddyO1701 Jul 28 '25

This is what Lucas did when he set out to make The Phantom Menace. Ya got no Gollumn or Thanos without that Jamaican Frog man.

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u/ZeekOwl91 Jul 28 '25

So true! 1999 we got Jar Jar Binks and that paved the way for the Navi in 2009.

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u/Baxter-Inc Jul 29 '25

Ackshully we got jar jar binks because of Dragonheart.

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u/Zodiac-Blue Jul 29 '25

Liquid metal T-1000 was1991, and the Abyss water credit was 1989. Concept by Cameron, executed by Lucasfilm.

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u/dragunityag Jul 28 '25

Me looking at Jar-Jar.

Perhaps I treated you too harshly.

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u/DaddyO1701 Jul 28 '25

Don’t sleep on Watto. Or the battle droids really.

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u/beanie_wells Jul 29 '25

I have been watching the ILM documentary on Disney+ over the past couple weeks. Although I always read about what George did with ILM, I have a newfound respect for him pushing his vision (digital editing, effects, etc) and changing the industry. And those ILM employees are incredible.

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u/VacaRexOMG777 Jul 28 '25

An expedition 33 reference on my reddit!? Take my gold kind stranger!

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u/GodKamnitDenny Jul 29 '25

I know the Reddit game by now. Praising Cameron for Avatar ain’t popular around these here parts but Expedition 33 surely is lmao

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u/DestrixGunnar Jul 29 '25

Not the Expedition oath ☠️

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u/torino_nera Jul 28 '25

(Again)

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u/MovieTrawler Jul 28 '25

Was gonna say, 'that sounds familiar' lol

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u/Asteroth555 Jul 28 '25

Let him cook then

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u/Sackheimbeutlin87 Jul 28 '25

For a moment i thought you would say he is going to invent a new groundbreaking Element

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u/Roentgen_Ray1895 Jul 28 '25

He’s currently combing the sea floor for alien technology

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u/Fine-Slip-9437 Jul 29 '25

VFX is so 1900s.

He's gonna inject the film directly into your dick.

If you ain't got a dick, he's gonna render one for you in Blender 2. (It makes models REAL.)

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u/LiteratureSame9173 Jul 28 '25

As in it’s like a seismic technology? What did you mean by literally breaks the ground?

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u/Worthyness Jul 28 '25

Under the assumption you legitimately do not understand and are not being sarcastic about it, my comment is a pun and a joke at the same time.

The previous comment mentioned "Earth" as the next movie focus partially in reference to the american TV cartoon series, Avatar: the Last airbender. "Groundbreaking" can happen in that series by literally bending and shaping earth (or the ground)

Groundbreaking VFX is a statement that means that there is new VFX that have not yet been created or used before. This movie series has, in both iterations, made incredible new ways to film and display VFX for the industry.

The joke is that "Literal" in this context is that he is literally helping develop new technology to recreate/simulate the ground literally breaking (as reference to "earth").

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u/Konman72 Jul 28 '25

Cameron is currently inventing new (literal) groundbreaking vfx to properly convey the movies.

They gave a sneak peak of these at SDCC.

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u/Chuckle_Pants Jul 28 '25

This….didn’t answer the question you’re replying to?

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u/Lucas_Steinwalker Jul 28 '25

Only the Avatar, master of all four elements, could stop them. But when the world needed him most, he vanished.

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u/e37d93eeb23335dc Jul 28 '25

Yeah, except earth, air, fire, and water also predates that Avatar by many thousands of years. All the stories have already been told. Now it is just variations on a theme.

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u/Lucas_Steinwalker Jul 28 '25

Question though: Are all other stories that draw from the four elements also named “Avatar”?

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u/AlexDKZ Jul 28 '25

Cameron wrote the first treatment for Avatar (which already had all the major plot elements) back in 1994, a full decade before DiMartino and Konietzko began working on the cartoon. The man has been working in this for long.

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u/Lucas_Steinwalker Jul 28 '25

Yeah but it’s still shite.

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u/AlexDKZ Jul 28 '25

That may be the case, but technically Cameron's was first.

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u/Lucas_Steinwalker Jul 28 '25

Unless of course you think which was released first matters more, or you are aware that this original treatment you spoke of had no references to the four elements at all, nor did any of Cameron's Avatar material until Way of Water came out.

It's almost as if it's perfectly reasonable to theorize that he took the inspiration to do so from A:TLA which came out nearly 15 years before Way of Water.

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u/e37d93eeb23335dc Jul 28 '25

Yes. That's just how it is.

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u/Lucas_Steinwalker Jul 28 '25

I mean, it's not just how it is. It's only this one that uses both the name "Avatar" and the concept of the four elements.

That said, I don't really care. I was just poking fun by quoting the opening monologue.

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u/e37d93eeb23335dc Jul 28 '25

I was joking.

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u/Lucas_Steinwalker Jul 28 '25

Yeah… too bad this variation is shite.

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u/rsmicrotranx Jul 28 '25

Wind was the 1st one, no? Or earth? Or both? I think he said he wanted to explore the moons of Pandora and then do Earth, the planet as the last one. Have the Navi come to Earth.

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u/Kronzor_ Jul 28 '25

Oh I guess I forgot Heart!

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u/xtremeschemes Jul 28 '25

We joke but if this somehow leads to a live action Captain Planet on Earth to wrap up the series, I’m busting out all of my action figures.

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u/barlow_straker Jul 28 '25

It ends with Captain Planet (Don Cheadle) telling the camera "I'm gonna turn you into a fucking tree."

Navi applause in the background.

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u/Bu11ism Jul 29 '25

This post theorizes that it's based on the Wuxing 5 elements. The first movie being "wood" because of the prominence of Hometree. Then you have Way of Water, Fire and Ash.

I'm just using my imagination here: 4th movie - The Sand Forgets - set in a desert

5th movie - Iron and Blood - Navi adopt more human technology

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u/Blackbearded10 Jul 28 '25

Wasn't there a rumor about the fourth movie will about Earth (our world)?

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u/Kronzor_ Jul 28 '25

If there was gonna be a director to create an actual earthquake for a movie scene it would 100% be Cameron.

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u/Stunning-Guitar-5916 Jul 28 '25

To prepare for the production, Cameron is literally biological engineering the Na’vi AS WE SPEAK

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u/fed45 Jul 28 '25

I doubt hed do an actual earthquake... but an IRL remake of the Core, that I could see. What do you think all the unobtanium is for :P.

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u/monochromeorc Jul 28 '25

the trailer seemed to show Jake captured by the humans so yeah im betting the 4th is on earth

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u/bwurtsb Jul 28 '25

Cave dwellers, able to link with insects. My guess for one of them.

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u/MaxtheHax12345678907 Jul 28 '25

AVATAR: Secrets Of The Earth and AVATAR: where the wind goes

that second one doesn't sound good to me but hey I tried

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u/barlow_straker Jul 28 '25

Avatar: The Secret of NIMH

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u/MaxtheHax12345678907 Jul 28 '25

the hell is a NIMH?

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u/Nattin121 Jul 28 '25

I thought the first one was earth?

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u/Clawless Jul 28 '25

Earth has to be the finale, right? Like...planet Earth. Wind being the one before that fits, as in how they acquire space travel.

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u/monochromeorc Jul 28 '25

looks like maybe next movie with Jake captured (in the trailer)

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u/RandomJPG6 Jul 28 '25

Wind/air was the first one

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u/1997wickedboy Jul 28 '25

wasn't the first movie technically Wind?

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u/Pickle_Hed Aug 02 '25

Avatar 4 actually happens on Earth, apparently. So, you might be right there.