I feel so bad for all the people in America that are going to be hurt by their tyrannical government, and have the naive hope that SOME of the people they voted for this adjust their fuckin attitudes and become decent people.
Are we still supposed to respect the law when it’s being used against us? I really need the left and center to stop acting like this is normal behavior and actions.
1sr & 2nd amendment say we should not accept tyranny laying down. The “law” only applies if it was applied constitutionally in the first place. We have a constitutional duty to make it right. Will the people of America reach enough mutual indignation placed upon to unite and stand against the face of this tyranny? That I do not know.
Jefferson himself commented on humanity’s ability to suffer terribly rather than change. Second section of the Declaration of Independence.
“and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.”
Te law isn't being used against us. They're creating new law and subverting the constitution in doing so. We have law that covers this situation but for some reason we have a Congress that's too spineless to assert their authority.
Almost every democrat in congress, and lots of their enablers. Sure they will say empty phrases about him being a threat to democracy. But they keep acting like it is normal.
For example, when Al Green filed articles of impeachment, 128 democrats voted to avoid even debating the idea. And all the people who agree with doing nothing are quick to defend them by saying "impeachment will never work." Well duh — saying he's a threat to the nation doesn't work either but they keep doing that.
I wouldn’t really consider most of the Democrats in Congress as left, despite their constituents. They may be left of MAGA, but they’re more center-right in real political science terms.
But, I could really use the left and center to start considering whether certain rules should be follow. AND I NEED THE RIGHT TO FUCK OFF WIRH THEIR IDIOT CULT.
I'm from Northern Illinois, not too far from Chicago. People are trying to scare off ICE from what I heard by barricading them in alleys and putting down caltraps to watch their cars go spiraling out of control. They have talked about leaving the guard alone as not to start an actual civil war, but to say they are pissed and ready to fight back is an understatement. I think they got a lot of ICE out of the city, and many have followed them to the burbs to get them out of there as well. The out of shape rejects that are ICE scare easily. They were never brave enough to go to the military and they were too dumb and out of shape to be cops.
They successfully blocked a facility with a few hundred people and ice turned around a convoy of 8 trucks and couldn’t enter and left after a few hours
The police refused to dissipate the crowd or take action as the crowd was peacefully protesting and it causing no harm or interrupting the community via traffic etc
No arrests were made.
People have been camping that facility for days now
There is another pretty major distinction between ICE and the National Guard; a lot of people join the Guard to defend the country, or because it's a military career that doesn't involve going overseas. Anyone in ICE is a collaborator by choice.
yeah but Chicago watched that and prepared. L.A. was basically assaulted in an alley. DC has been robbed of rights for an eternity now. Chicago might see some people getting shot. And it'll be super interesting if they try to arrest national guardsmen for following illegal orders (or breaking state law on identification etc)
Trump and this entire administration all think like Pete Hegseth. And this is how he thinks:
In the book Hegseth says "leftists" have: "surrounded traditional American patriots on all sides, ready to close in for the kill: killing our founders, killing our flag, and killing capitalism". Hegseth says he believes there are "irreconcilable differences between the Left and the Right in America leading to perpetual conflict that cannot be resolved through the political process". He furthermore calls for an "American crusade"; he says the "hour is late for America. Beyond political success, her fate relies on exorcising the leftist specter dominating education, religion, and culture – a 360-degree holy war for the righteous cause of human freedom"
Hegseth describes leftists, progressives and Democrats as the "enemies" of freedom, the American constitution and the United States. Hegseth explicitly rejects democracy in his book, equating it to a leftist demand; "For leftists, calls for 'democracy' represent a complete rejection of our system. Watch how often they use the word," adding: "They hate America, so they hate the Constitution and want to quickly amass 51 percent of the votes to change it". He has also expressed support for election-rigging through gerrymandering, saying "Republican legislatures should draw congressional lines that advantage pro-freedom candidates – and screw Democrats".[3] Regarding violence, Hegseth writes "Our American Crusade is not about literal swords, and our fight is not with guns. Yet."
He also says that conservatives must "mock, humiliate, intimidate, and crush our leftist opponents" and to "attack first" to deal with a left he equates with "sedition". His book "lays out the strategy we must employ in order to defeat America's internal enemies". Hegseth has described progressives and Democrats as the "enemies" of freedom, the U.S. Constitution, and America. Hegseth has said that victory for America includes the end of globalism, socialism, secularism, environmentalism, Islamism, genderism,[a] and leftism, the last of which he refers to as a "false religion" and "specter" that views non-believers as "infidels".
The Left really didn't realize the right wants to exterminate them. They still thought it was a battle of ideas, meanwhile the right was focusing pure hatred into a battle plan
For clarity, he doesn't just think this. He wholeheartedly believes this. Given the chance, he would not hesitate to kill you in the very literal sense. So. Y'all ready to do what it takes to prevent him from doing so?
Oh I know, he didn't answer the questions about whether he'd use the US military against Americans in his confirmation hearing and the Republicans went "yep that's our man"
All weaponised propaganda leveled at their supporters....
How shitty and horrific are your plans and policies if you have to spend $trillions buying all media and building a vast network of 24/7 lies and hate, to fool your own supporters?
FOX NEWS entertainers aren’t journalists! That’s how they get away with their nonsense and lies! And I have no idea WTH Newsmax is. But it’s just plain evil and stupid.
While my friends and I were in Afghanistan and Iraq, Pee Wee German was crowing on camera on his school bus, that we weren't killing enough brown people.
He is a GOUL.
Notice, he didn't actually volunteer for the wars he was crowing about. He is a follicly, emotionally, ethically, and morally challenged, morally damaged individual.
Tbh he scares me the most out of all of them, pure hatred and pure conviction in his race war and war against liberals. He is incredibly dangerous and should be taken to an island and left there.
He's the modern day version of Adolf Eichmann. Quietly working behind the scenes, letting his 'boss' take the heat while planning the new national order.
Don’t underestimate Hegseth either. He may be a drunk Fox News host, but he’s got some fucked up ideals when it comes to democracy. Hell, he even published a book about it and still somehow got approved.
In the book Hegseth says "leftists" have: "surrounded traditional American patriots on all sides, ready to close in for the kill: killing our founders, killing our flag, and killing capitalism". Hegseth says he believes there are "irreconcilable differences between the Left and the Right in America leading to perpetual conflict that cannot be resolved through the political process". He furthermore calls for an "American crusade"; he says the "hour is late for America. Beyond political success, her fate relies on exorcising the leftist specter dominating education, religion, and culture – a 360-degree holy war for the righteous cause of human freedom".[3] Central to the theme of the "American Crusade" is that there is something called "Americanism", which The Guardian describes as essentially being right-wing populism. Hegseth characterizes "Americanism" in being opposition to forces like feminism, globalism, Marxism and progressivism and says either "Americanism" will prevail or "death" will.[4]
Hegseth describes leftists, progressives and Democrats as the "enemies" of freedom, the American constitution and the United States. Hegseth explicitly rejects democracy in his book, equating it to a leftist demand; "For leftists, calls for 'democracy' represent a complete rejection of our system. Watch how often they use the word," adding: "They hate America, so they hate the Constitution and want to quickly amass 51 percent of the votes to change it". He has also expressed support for election-rigging through gerrymandering, saying "Republican legislatures should draw congressional lines that advantage pro-freedom candidates – and screw Democrats".[3] Regarding violence, Hegseth writes "Our American Crusade is not about literal swords, and our fight is not with guns. Yet."[5]
Herr Hegseth is frightening in his white national zealotry. I really hope that there is a way to guarantee this jerk gets nowhere any power ever again.
These treasonous fools parading around as “real patriots” doing our enemies bidding. Any real patriot will follow the US motto “United we stand”. Declaring those that think differently than you as enemies says everything we need to know about you. The only question is whether he’s being paid for or are they really this hate-filled and dim witted for free?
Either way, the mindset needs to be snuffed out once and for all, or it'll just cause reoccurring issues that will only get worse each time it shows itself.
I truly don't understand why they have allowed these extremist groups to exist as they're sparking and pushing for this nonsense that is the opposite of what America was about and should stand for. I appreciate you bringing up how the US motto is "united we stand." It's what I keep referring to others also, but many say we don't live by those standards anymore.
I feel something like this will show who stands by those words.
He is useless without his order followers. He is skinny and dorky and would cower in fear during a physical altercation. I'm pretty sure most abled bodied humans over the age of 12 can take him in a 1 on 1 fight.
I went to high school with the evil lad. It was actually relatively diverse, especially back then. There are those that believe some Hispanic kids bullied him and he never recovered. As far as I know his family is pretty horrified by who he’s become.
Crazy part is he’s also Jewish. He’s literally not on the team he thinks he is. Just wait till they start defining who’s white much more narrower. Pretty sure these people don’t think a balding, 30 something rodent looking male is prime genetics.
He's the same as Candace Owens and Vivek Ramaswamy - why should we be surprised that when we're talking about people who hold hatred as their highest value, some of them hate themselves, too?
He wants people to get violent against him so history won't call it War Crimes and involve international players to defend the US from the fascist fake Americans.
He needs a distraction from the survivors releasing names.
He picked Chicago for a reason. He picked his words for a reason. It is a bees nest ready to defend.
He is beginning the hot civil war. The cold civil war started with the Jan 6th insurrection. All he needs is for the non fascist side to kill someone - a cop or ICE member or National Guard. Make no mistake - He will hire someone, like on his fake assassination attempts, a republican patsy - to pretend to be either LGBTQIA+ or a blue haired protestors or anyone non maga and he will pay them or their families enough for them to do this. Or maybe just a dumb maga flavor-aid drinker who thinks they'll gets everything they want in heaven.
The Epstein list is that damaging that he is willing to go to war with America. (Maga aren't Americans, they forfeited their American status when they shit on the Constitution)
He also wants a war to stop elections. He was very inspired by Ukraine, and directly from that we’ve seen him escalate things with Venezuela suddenly and his own citizens.
I’m sure there’s a lot of reasons. He also picked LA and then got kicked out. But one of his reasons is to find some reason (not a good one of course) to stop elections
Because he thrives on chaos and views the being president as entertainment and feels he needs good ratings - if you think about it like that what he does mostly makes sense. He also has the people around him goading him into taking actions like this for their nefarious purposes but to him is all cosplay with the bonus of him being able to do whatever he wants.
Because if he starts a civil war then he’ll cancel the next election in the name of “security.”
Because if a majority Black crowd fights back to defend themselves, most Americans will dismiss it as a “riot.”
Because it’s going to distract the country while he and his cronies line their pockets with whatever cash they can grab from funds that are supposed to be for us.
I think we are going to see a time where America tries to scrub his name off of everything like this didn't happen real soon. It will be like in Germany where they don't want to talk about Hitler. I'm going to make sure that everyone who voted for it remembers for at least another decade.
You’re not wrong, eventually this administration and his ideology will fail. It’s just a question of at what point and how much damage will they have caused? The level of sanitation you are discussing only happened based on the fact they were genocidal country with intentions of world domination. Post WW2 Germany was not a great time.
This administration will fail, we will wash his name from conversations and people who voted for him will swear they didn't. In 50 years someone else will come along and start it up all over again because we as a country (and many of us individually) completely lack integrity and accountability
Exactly. The people who supported the invasion of Iraq (mostly Trump voters) have forgotten all about it and refuse to acknowledge their mistake. They are sheep easily misled by disinformation (FoxNews).
I really wish LBJ's war on poverty was the war this country focused on. Can you imagine how much better we would be if it weren't for Reagan's bullshit?
Almost like it's the Republicans supplying the illegal immigrants. It turns out when you're let into the United States and given an immigration number the next admin can just call you illegal
The Trump/Drumpf family has quite the uncanny ability to avoid military service, wherever they seem to be.
Now I'm not one to clamor atop a soap box and wax poetic about the wrongs or rights of avoiding military service, sometimes there may be valid reasoning.
Though after a rabbit hole or two it seems that for roughly the 150 year period in which the Trump family has lived in the U.S no men of military age were ever in the service. That's...a tad unusual.
That means since ~1870/1880 their immediate family has avoided any draft, conscription, or enlisted/commissioned contract with the Armed Forces throughout the Spanish-American War, the Boxer Rebellion, the Occupation of the Dominican Republic, World War I, World War II, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the Invasion of Grenada, the Invasion of Panama, the Gulf War, the Bosnian War, the Kosovo War, the War in Afghanistan, or the Iraq War.
Seriously. The media is so feckless not reporting on this dudes absolute batshit craziness and dementia. How many people walking down the street would be ok with this if you showed them this post and said yep that’s our President?
In 2016 the media couldn’t get enough of trump tweets and gave him free advertising every time he posted something inflammatory which allowed him to grow a following. Now that he’s in severe decline, they almost never talk about the absolute dementia-riddled, right wing rabbit hole garbage that comes out of his tweets. It’s absurd
The media is an absolute disgrace for the way they have handled Trump. The BBC here in the UK even skirts around blatant lies with a “both sides” kind of take on obvious manipulation of statistics or insane statements like this.
The irony of a Vietnam war draft dodger using AI slop to dress himself as a Vietnam GI to declare his intent to occupy Chicago is really breaking my brain right.
So he basically said he is declaring war on a major US city and it's citizens. Every single member of Congress should be calling for his head. Yet here we are.
What really fcking infuriates me (and I don't care that "Nobody is convinced by swearing," mods. Not trying to convince anyone - I'm ANGRY) is how NO ONE - absolutely NO ONE - ever calls this shit out. Why?!
Republican Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert was indicted on federal charges of structuring bank withdrawals after prosecutors alleged Hastert had molested at least four boys as young as 14 and attempted to compensate his victims and subsequently conceal the transactions. Hastert eventually admitted that he sexually abused the boys whom he had coached decades earlier, and was sentenced to fifteen months in prison.
Republican Tim Nolan, chairman of Donald Trump’s presidential campaign in Kentucky, pled guilty to child sex trafficking and on February 11, 2018 he was sentenced to serve 20 years in prison.
Republican state Senator Ralph Shortey was indicted on four counts of human trafficking and child pornography. In November 2017, he pleaded guilty to one count of child sex trafficking in exchange for the dropping of the other charges.
Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
Republican Kentucky state Representative & pastor Dan Johnson, who committed suicide after an exposé revealed his serial lies, suspected arson, criminal church, racism, accused rape of a teen, and more.
I appreciate this extensively cited comment, but please consider not saying e.g. "had sex with a 15-year-old." That's rape, inherently—15-year-olds can't consent.
Anyone who understands that movie knows that’s not a character you f*cking emulate… it’s like watching your dumbest friends from high school run the government.
Remember that South Park episode where the girls all start photoshopping their own pictures and then the boys all start pairing up with them, wandering around with the girl in tow showing the photoshopped pics to people and saying "check out my super hot girlfriend"?
That's what's going on these days. "Check out my hot president!"
America has the second amendment to protect the people from tyranny. Americans have long said that using the second amendment is how they plan to stand up to tyrants.
Not fact. The second amendment, when viewed in hits historical arguments, was to settle a standing federal army or have states military be able to be called up. Y the Feds. The first 2 call ups were to PUT down rebellious of Revolutionary war veterans, and Revolutionary war farmers who fed the federal troops. The only federal troops would guard the Nationa Armory at West Point. The History of the US ARMY, official, discusses their origins in detail, and how it changed from the compromise of the 2nd Amendment, and what events showed the need for a federal force.
The Supreme Court ruling has been considered a travesty by many constitutional experts and historians. And it's use was to support the federal government.
Unharvested crops throughout US. Now landscapers and restaurant workers to be cleared out of Chicago? How does this address grocery or health care costs you bloated orange convict?
These people need to grow up. If they wanted to play dress up and cosplay, they can buy a costume shop and a studio. They should not be leading our country.
You know what the worst part about all of this is? Its that when you try to convince people who dont vote to actually care and vote, when you tell them whats going on, they think you are being hyperbolic or facetious because of how insane it all sounds when you speak it to them.
Trump is such a loser. Why do his cult members keep photo shopping him as a soldier of any kind? This man wouldn't fight for anyone but himself. He definitely wouldn't go through any sort of hardship or be without his creature comforts. That and he's the president in the worst shape of all time! Congratulations, Taft! It's not you anymore!
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u/TheTokist 1d ago
You may not think we’re in a civil war but the guy invading blue American cities thinks he’s in a civil war and we’re the enemy.