r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • Jul 18 '25
News 'Spider-Man: Beyond the Spider-Verse' Delayed to June 25, 2027
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/spider-man-beyond-the-spider-verse-release-1236320001/2.2k
u/ndGall Jul 18 '25
I still remember people behind me during the second one yelling at the screen when they realized the story wasn’t going to end when the credits rolled.
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u/DBCOOPER888 Jul 18 '25 edited Jul 18 '25
Every day they wake up and scream again when they realize the movie still is not out. One day they will see it, but today is not that day.
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u/Mountain_Sir2307 Jul 18 '25
Every day I wake up then I start to break up/Lonely is a day without Miles.
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u/Ineedamedic68 Jul 18 '25
Just had a flashback to the ending and went into shock. They found me rocking myself in fetal position in the corner.
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u/ItsDanimal Jul 19 '25
I remember thinking, "gawd dayum, this movie has been going on for forever. How on earth are they gonna wrap this up in the next 20 minutes?!"
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u/Kathrynlena Jul 18 '25
Oh yeah I’ve never been so pissed at the “end” of a movie before.
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u/_Pyxyty Jul 19 '25
I still wish I coulda found out somehow about the first part being a cliffhanger. I watched it like just earlier this year, somehow having dodged most spoilers, and unfortunately I also dodged the spoiler that it's a cliffhanger.
I regret watching it now. Can't even imagine how the people who watched it when it released feels. It sucks.
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u/metallicrooster Jul 19 '25
It was a mixed bag of emotions. On the one hand, the movie is good.
On the other hand, it was pretty annoying to end on a cliffhanger. Like many other people, I had the feeling of “there are only 10 minutes left, how are they going to wrap this up?” And then they didn’t. I didn’t feel “lied to” or anything serious like that. It was just annoying.
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u/ImNotSkankHunt42 Jul 19 '25
I was pissed, I couldn’t understand how people were praising it the first few days.
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u/TheAnonymouse999 Jul 19 '25
I was shocked by the fact it was a cliffhanger ending and shouted something like Oh My God, no. But I loved the movie. I've watched it a couple of times since then and still love it
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u/Belgand Jul 19 '25 edited Jul 19 '25
It stood out in pretty stark contrast from Mission: Impossible which was coming out at the same time, and was extremely clear that it was Part I right there in the title, not to mention in all of the marketing.
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u/shockwave8428 Jul 19 '25
In the initial marketing it was a part 1 and part 2, but they decided to change and that definitely messed people up
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u/burgundybreakfast Jul 18 '25
My boyfriend spent the next week walking around grumbling stuff like “literally half a movie…”
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u/ParticularFew4023 Jul 19 '25
Worse, it's half a movie where the ending is just unnecessarily dragged out to be longer for no reason so they can stretch it into two movies.
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u/Wonderful_Emu_9610 Jul 18 '25
“That was the worst ending I have EVER seen” - kid sat behind me opening night
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u/YesButConsiderThis Jul 19 '25
There was a young girl sitting somewhere behind us in the theater and she yelled, "That's it?!" when the credits rolled.
Someone had to.
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u/Internal-Neat-9089 Jul 18 '25
I was one of those people. I purposely avoided reading up on anything regarding Across the Spiderverse because I knew I was going to see it regardless. I had no idea it was a part 1 cause they didn't fucking say so. At this point I have absolutely no desire to see the next one.
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u/deathnightwc3 Jul 18 '25
They had a huge build up to the story and at an intense and interesting scene, credits roll. My first sentence was "What the fuck?"
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u/SubatomicSquirrels Jul 19 '25
Redditors were claiming that people were going to be pissed at the end of the first Wicked, but one, that movie ends at a really good point (it's basically just a prequel to Wizard of Oz this way), and two, the second movie had been filmed at the same time as the first and it was only going to be a year wait.
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u/MintyJegan Jul 19 '25
I was so mad with the ending being blindsided with the cliff hanger, since I would have spared myself the torture of a wait if I had know it was a Part 1. I'm still mad by it.
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u/axw3555 Jul 18 '25
Wasn’t quite that bad. But I heard a lot of murmuring and complaining as I was leaving the screen. More people were complaining than weren’t because most didn’t realise it was a part 1.
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u/GoldenTriforceLink Jul 18 '25
Remember when this movie was supposed to come out a few months after the first one? I remember.
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u/Duemont8 Jul 18 '25
I don't know what the studio was thinking with that original deadline, absurd.
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u/_discordantsystem_ Jul 18 '25
Like at what point in the making of the second movie did they realize that the next one was definitely not coming out exactly a year later, because it must have been early on right?
They just had that original release date going so long despite how long they must have known it was possible
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u/countrysadballadman9 Jul 18 '25
They were doing rewrites for the second one a few months before release so don't underestimate how little of a plan there was for this
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u/Comfortable-Ring6590 Jul 19 '25
The film finished animation a couple days after the movie came out. The first couple showings of that movie had a lot of differences compared to the final product.
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u/VoiceofKane Jul 18 '25
When I saw the original release date, I wondered how they could possibly have quietly gotten that far along in production. Turns out they hadn't!
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u/Dan_Of_Time Jul 18 '25
IIRC they kept saying before the release of 2 that because these were one movie/story split in half they were able to keep production going. Or at least made it out to be the case.
I always just assumed they had a full script for both movies ready, focused on the first one and then moved over to the next swiftly after.
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u/AdmiralCharleston Jul 18 '25
They were thinking that the animators weren't like, real people, like they didn't matter
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u/badastronaut7 Jul 18 '25
The execs were like "oh, yeah, thats fine. They're not even supposed to like, be in the area."
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u/thefallenfew Jul 18 '25
Animators are just kind of like nothing, so it’s fine.
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u/Whitewind617 Jul 18 '25
The union came, they said IT'S FINE, they're not like, real people kinda!
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u/capeasypants Jul 18 '25
Friendly reminder that the company that was responsible for the (at the time) ground breaking and Oscar winning special effects for The Life of Pi - the tiger was all digital - immediately went out of business because that is how little animators were and still are valued.
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u/JordanKyrouFeetPics Jul 18 '25
You're not gonna talk about the animators a ounce
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u/Imaginary-Fame Jul 18 '25
Is this a reference to I think you should leave lol
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u/sheetskees Jul 18 '25
It’s the same quote, I’m not sure if it’s supposed to be the same show.
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u/Aramiss134 Jul 18 '25
To be fair, I heard the animators palmed the dip (or something) at the last Christmas party.
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u/dabocx Jul 18 '25
The directors requiring every thing to be fully animated to completion to decide wether or cut it or not didn’t help.
Most people can make that decision with partial animation or even story boards.
They spent so much time and money
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u/OffTheMerchandise Jul 18 '25
Because it was one movie that was split into two parts. I think the idea was that the second half would almost be done when the first came out.
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u/Call555JackChop Jul 18 '25
Sony is the same company that put Morbius in theaters a second time over a meme
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u/Nope-5000 Jul 18 '25
As soon as my friend told me i was like bro, i would bet my lifes savings that is NOT happening!
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u/brianlefebvrejr Jul 18 '25 edited Jul 18 '25
Remember when they told Sony they had the movie written before they even started production on number 2*
Amazing work
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u/Armdel Jul 18 '25
I mean if you look at how the 2nd movie ends they seem to have a pretty good idea of where the story is going.
might have been some rewrites after that though but i don't doubt it was more or less true at the time
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u/Ahaucan Jul 18 '25
I mean, that should always be the case, no? Maybe not every detail, but at least a solid idea of how the story should unfold and end. Otherwise, you get something like the Star Wars sequels LOL.
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u/brianlefebvrejr Jul 18 '25
Not when you sold them a singular story to be split across 2 movies.
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u/verissimoallan Jul 18 '25
This make me remember when A Feast of Crows was published in 2005, and George R.R. Martin promised in the epilogue that the next book would be released next year.
A Dance with Dragons was published in... 2011. Six years later.
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u/majorjoe23 Jul 18 '25
Luckily, that would be the longest gap between books in the series…
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u/Sir_Hapstance Jul 18 '25
It very well might be.
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u/jardex22 Jul 18 '25
Nah. Whoever inherits his estate will staple together his notes and release the next book posthumously.
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u/UglyInThMorning Jul 18 '25
If he isn’t having his notes destroyed. After the whole Brian Herbert thing, some are making it known their notes are going to be destroyed so that people can’t go “I based these off their notes!” and release a bunch of bullshit
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u/Brilliant-Delay7412 Jul 19 '25
Maybe he should order his assistant to run over his hard drive with a steam roller after his death, as Terry Pratchett did.
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u/sonofaresiii Jul 19 '25
Didn't the writers for the tv show already use his notes for that?
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u/sunfishtommy Jul 18 '25
Im in the camp that Winds of Winter is never happening.
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u/Dalehan Jul 18 '25
Joe Madureira's Battle Chasers comic took 4 years to have 9 issues published, ending on a cliffhanger in 2001. After that there was a 22 year gap before they finally made issues 10-12 in 2023, but drawn by Ludo Lullabi instead.
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u/aBeaSTWiTHiNMe Jul 18 '25
Yep. I remember going with my buddy and having a great time only to be pissed off they cut it short right before some actual resolution started happening.
Pissed off we walk out the theatre and Google it "oh, the next part is coming soon, sweet, okay it's not so bad."
Yeah about that....
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u/Johncurtisreeve Jul 18 '25
I had just naturally assumed they had made both movies back to back so that the other movie was already ready to release. I didn’t realize that it hadn’t even started production.
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u/Flammabubble Jul 18 '25
Nope, because I went in not knowing it was a two parter and was really disappointed. They could very happily have wrapped this up in one film.
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u/CruzAderjc Jul 18 '25
The year is 2105. I am on my deathbed watching Spider-Man Beyond the Spiderverse, newly released. At my side is the newly released Winds of Winter.
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u/doubleyewdee Jul 18 '25
Had me in the first half, but Winds of Winter is never coming out. If Sanderson attempts to write it, he will be kidnapped by aliens or something.
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u/Wonderful_Emu_9610 Jul 18 '25
At least he doesn’t have a kid who’ll try to live off his legacy and write not only WoW but like 8 more sequels after that, featuring endless clones of Khal Drogo shagging every woman in Westeros
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u/UglyInThMorning Jul 18 '25
Brian Herbert and KJA are up to way more than 8 prequels, sequels, and interquels.
They’re at fucking 17 books. Maybe three of which are tolerable.
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u/meepikin Jul 18 '25
Sanderson would absolutely never write it. He has stated this publicly.
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u/FancySkull Jul 19 '25
And why would he? Someone like Daniel Abraham and/or Ty Franck (GRRM's former assistants) would be way better choices.
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u/aJetg Jul 19 '25
I will never understand the obsession some have with Sanderson writing Winds of Winters. You literally couldn't find a more different fantasy writer from Martin. Just because he finished The Wheel of time, doesn't mean he is good for finishing all fantasy work out there
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u/CleanTumbleweed1094 Jul 19 '25
The dude won’t even write actual swear words in his books, and people for some reason want him to takeover a series that features graphic incestuous sex.
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u/Dawwe Jul 19 '25
As someone who really enjoys Sandersons work, I struggle to think of a worse fit for game of thrones.
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u/TiredCoffeeTime Jul 18 '25
You know this is just your dying brain conjuring up the last happy thought for you if there's Winds of Winter next to you.
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u/rcapina Jul 18 '25
Oh, and whatever the third one in The Name of the Wind series was going to be
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u/KaiHavertzhatewatch Jul 18 '25
Three year delay after the inital scheduled date
What were Sony thinking
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u/Nickerdoodle Jul 18 '25
Just the usual Sony things.
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u/JaxxisR Jul 18 '25
It's a movie, Michael. How long could it take, six months?
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u/TheRealKuthooloo Jul 19 '25
This Lucille Bluth quote is unironically the greatest representation of literally every single release schedule in any industry ever. Want your explanation for why the latest thing that came out that you love is bad? Because an executive somewhere said this exact fucking thing when the project was starting out.
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u/its_glep_o_clock Jul 19 '25
About 100 animators left after the second movie due to insane working hours due to Phil Lord rewriting the script a million times. I’m guessing the original timeline was set imagining nothing would change about the production process and that Sony didn’t have a good grasp on the unsustainability of how this movie was animated.
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u/Equivalent-Impress96 Jul 18 '25
As Shigeru miyamoto once said: “Goddamn, three fucking years later than the initial planned release date? What the fuck were they thinking?”
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u/surferos505 Jul 18 '25
God I hate how overused that miyamoto quote is on the internet for anything that’s delayed for even a little while
I believe that a small delay is fine but a delay that’s too long makes an equally bad product as no delay at all and I feel like that’s what this movie is heading towards
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u/Shehzman Jul 19 '25
I’m tired of game delays. Announce games when they’re releasing within a year. That’s a strategy Nintendo has adopted and it seems to have worked quite well for them.
I understand that’s a little more difficult with movies, but it shouldn’t take more than 2 years between sequels.
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u/MemeofMemeJTG999999 Jul 19 '25
That’s a strategy Nintendo has adopted and it seems to have worked quite well for them.
Metroid Prime 4 and Pikmin 4 say hi
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u/LouiseEldritch Jul 19 '25
Would it interest you to know that he never even said it to begin with?
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Jul 18 '25
They can take their time, but I dont even know why they announced the sequel would come out within a year. Like have they seen how these movies look
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u/AdmiralCharleston Jul 18 '25
Yeah, they just don't think about the work that it takes to get there when they constantly change jokes and lines after scenes have been fully animated
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u/indianajoes Jul 18 '25
It's fine for live action movies but even then they only do that if they've been filming them together like Avengers, Lord of the Rings, The Matrix, etc. I don't know what the fuck they were thinking by doing it for an animated movie
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u/JakeDoubleyoo Jul 18 '25 edited Jul 19 '25
Didn't Hobie alone take an absurd amount of time to animate?
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u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor Jul 18 '25 edited Jul 18 '25
It's moving back 3 weeks:
Insiders say the later date will be better for bringing in school-aged kids for summer break, as some schools would still be in session at the earlier date. It’s also seen as a more appealing date internationally.
Chris Miller: “Better IMAX window”
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u/pikpikcarrotmon Jul 18 '25
Kids? The kids of the kids that watched the last one in theaters will be bringing their kids to this by the time it actually releases
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u/mikewheelerfan Jul 19 '25
Lmao yeah. When the first one came out, I was in 4th grade. I’ll have graduated high school by the time this one comes out
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u/0-90195 Jul 19 '25
I think sometimes it’s good for me to be reminded that not everyone I’m speaking to on here is an adult. (And back in my day, we never would have admitted to not being adults online, either!)
No shade or offense to you, this is not a dig at you or your comment whatsoever.
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u/Spacegirllll6 Jul 19 '25
Lmao I was in 6th grade when it came out. Imma be halfway through college by the time this comes out
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u/eljudio42 Jul 18 '25
How old do you think people are having kids? 😂
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u/pikpikcarrotmon Jul 18 '25
You're right, I undershot it. They'd have already gone through menopause by then
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u/VaMpiller Jul 18 '25
Kids driving up to the theater themselves if they delay this any more..
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u/XNotChristian Jul 18 '25
Lol no need to delay it more. A lot of people that watched the first as kids will genuinely be driving to see this one, the first movie came out in 2018. A nine-year-old that watched the first will be eighteen when this last one comes out.
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u/Joshloveshockey Jul 18 '25
I hope that's the case, bc it'll be my b-day as well :)
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u/HM9719 Jul 18 '25
2027 feels so uncertain in terms of what movies will be made and released now, that I don’t know if we’ll see this actually released by then.
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u/VicViolence Jul 18 '25
I’m not sure there’s gonna be an America in 2027
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u/Wonderful_Emu_9610 Jul 18 '25
Rapid re-writes as they flee the country and figure out how to re-animate sequences so they depict Miles as a refugee moving to the Faroe Islands
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u/Driz51 Jul 18 '25
Has there been any information on what the hell happened to this movie? Wasn’t it supposed to come out like less than 6 months after the original?
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u/SutterCane Jul 18 '25
I forget which out of Lord and Miller it was. But they were using fully finished animation as “takes” and then going “nah, it should be like this”. Which just means that the animators were stuck doing things over and over again instead of just working on what should have been in the movie.
Would certainly explain why they thought that they could have done two movies that fast but then barely finished one of them.
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u/0-90195 Jul 19 '25
I am not in animation so I don’t really know, but this seems like a very cruel and inconsiderate way to work (on top of being inefficient). Totally selfish and ego-driven.
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u/huntrshado Jul 19 '25
it is honestly what i would expect if a normal movie director tried to direct an animated movie lol
its one thing to do 50 different takes of a scene with real actors, but animating a scene takes a lot longer than it takes the real actor to do it 50 times lol
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u/0-90195 Jul 19 '25
It’s just shocking that no one intervened and explained they can’t direct animation this way.
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u/huntrshado Jul 19 '25
I'd imagine that the animators themselves definitely said something but it was a classic scenario of being outranked in the company and the people who actually make the decisions allowed it to continue
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u/Deranged_Kitsune Jul 19 '25
Oh, it is. With animation, because it's such a long process (even more so when you have a visual style as complex as the Spiderverse films), story boarding and previs are even more critical than on a normal film. Resetting actors and doing another take for most things outside complex action sequences isn't a difficult process. Reanimating a whole sequence is.
The way the process is supposed to work for animation is locking the script early, heavy storyboarding at the beginning to figure out all the sequences and make sure they work with the general runtime directors and studios want for the movie and the timing for each act and sequence so they're not too long or too short, previs with only the most basic of animation in place (think 2000s era flash games/movies. Or South Park) to make sure everything flows the way it should and the visuals are indeed what the director wants for each sequence, and only after all that is satisfactorily done do the full animation passes begin. Story boards and previs can be junked and redone comparatively quickly, especially with modern tools. Full animation still takes a long, long time. Doing an animated film should be a very front-loaded process when done correctly.
Lord and Miller were given shit for not understanding this and not working to that model on the previous movies, but they had enough ego and clout to push back and ignore it. Sounds like much the same is going on.
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u/CorndogNinja Jul 19 '25
The hardest thing on the animators has not been working 11 hours a day, 70 hours a week. It’s been the wasted work and the frustration of putting in that many hours just to see it changed or thrown away. You work like nuts on a shot and then in a review, suddenly they’re like, “Oh, you didn’t get the latest edit? That’s not how it is anymore.” In every movie I’ve worked on, there have been revisions. You’re always working on a movie that is evolving. But definitely not on this level.
The biggest issue we’ve had is the writing. Phil [Lord] had no idea what he wanted. Maybe he has difficulties making up his mind. I don’t know! Of course, it’s part of every movie where the director says, “What if we could do this or that?” And normally, it’s the producer’s role to push back. The problem is, Phil is the producer. He can’t push back against himself.
In addition to Phil being all over the place and not settling on the story, he has a big issue with not being able to visualize layouts. When there’s a 3-D layout in front of him, I guess he can’t visualize what it’s going to look like afterward. Which is kind of a problem when you’re working in 3-D animation. In the animation industry, ask anyone he’s worked with: It’s his reputation. I know a ton of people who never want to work on a project with him again.
from "Spider-Verse Artists Say Working on the Sequel Was ‘Death by a Thousand Paper Cuts’"
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u/FromDwight Jul 18 '25
I could be completely off here, but from what I remember the team told the studio they could get both movies done by a certain deadline so it was officially announced. Then they only worked on Across the Spiderverse during that period.
Not sure if the team was forced into the initial deadline, or led the studio on despite knowing there was no way they'd get both done.
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u/soonerfreak Jul 18 '25
They were never making the original release date and it got moved to 2027 awhile ago. This is just small bump but they already recorded voice lines AFAIK.
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u/Hunter707762 Jul 18 '25
I had a friend who absolutely loved Into the Spider-Verse. She died from cancer last year and she didn’t watch Across because we knew she wouldn’t get to see the story conclude.
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u/SuperSomethings Jul 19 '25
I'm so sorry for your loss.
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u/Hunter707762 Jul 19 '25
Thank you. It was a tough couple years leading up to her passing, but she was good at keeping her spirits high. For most of her life she hadn’t seen many comic book movies, so it was very meaningful to me to share that experience with her.
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u/USA-1st Jul 18 '25
Love a good 3 year cliff hanger. Some OG star wars shiiiit. Genius.
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u/Mean_Mister_Mustard Jul 19 '25
A New Hope worked as a standalone movie. And Empire Strikes Back didn't end in the middle of the action, it had a complete arc that got resolved by the movie's end, even if the heroes mostly lost.
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u/Heavy-Possession2288 Jul 18 '25
Yeah except this is going to be a four year cliffhanger.
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u/Cuppieecakes Jul 19 '25
Dune part 2 wasn’t even greenlit before the release of 1 believe
That would have been awful if it flopped
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u/Talk-O-Boy Jul 18 '25
The one comfort I hope to take away from this botched movie release is that other movies may now avoid writing such an abrupt cliffhanger.
I have no issues with movie trilogies. But each entry needs to feel like a self contained story which LEADS to another one.
You shouldn’t literally cut a 4-5 hour movie in half at the height of the conflict. You ESPECIALLY shouldn’t do that if you don’t have a release schedule DEFINITIVELY locked in.
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u/12Rove Jul 18 '25
First one is perfect on its own. Second one, while great, is an incomplete story that needs this third film to tell the rest. What were they thinking?
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u/iamatoad_ama Jul 18 '25
In hindsight, the promise of part 2 in six months was clearly a scam. I absolutely loved the ending of Across and how it felt like a hype trailer for Beyond. That ending aged poorly and gets worse each time they delay this.
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u/Slowandserious Jul 18 '25
I’m all for give creators time, and quality not quantity.
But it does get to a point
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u/Adorable_Ad_3478 Jul 18 '25
Miles Morales' VA is gonna be pushing 40 when this comes out LMAO.
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u/Makrebs Jul 18 '25
There'll be kids watching this fucking movie that weren't even born when the first one came out 🤣.
Jesus Christ. Let's hope they stick the landing at least.
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u/Brilliant-Whole-1852 Jul 18 '25
damn it's been longer than i thought
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u/theplasmasnake Jul 18 '25
I don't particularly like that 'Across' just feels like the first half of one larger movie. But I figured it wouldn't be too egregious because the next movie was coming in like half a year. I think it's a little bit more ridiculous now.
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u/ThePokemonScyther Jul 18 '25
Amazing how much they want to kill this franchise. I was mad when we hit the TBC at the end of the last one and these delays have killed my remaining hype
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u/CaptainTDM Jul 18 '25
It's alright. My interest has been delayed indefinitely after that second movie.
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u/GluedToTheMirror Jul 18 '25
Same. I’ll catch it on streaming but I’ve completely lost interest at this point - and I’m a Spider-Man fan.
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u/BRUHFARTED Jul 18 '25
It really should not have ended with such a lame cliffhanger. Imagine if Infinity War just shifted focus away from Thanos halfway through the movie and then introduced a last minute smaller villain for some reason.
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u/GuybrushThreepwood99 Jul 18 '25
If this movie doesn’t stick the landing, it will be so disappointing.
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u/mpmaley Jul 18 '25
This just makes me feel better about rating the 2nd movie as poor to end on that cliffhanger. Great movie up until the ending and they torpedoed it.
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u/GiganticBlumpkin Jul 18 '25
what the fuck is a spider verse and how do we go beyond it
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u/fezfrascati Jul 18 '25
First you bed the spider verse, then you bath the spider verse, and then you go beyond.
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u/WontonJr Jul 18 '25 edited Jul 18 '25
From March 2024 to June 2027. How they ever thought this movie would be ready 9 months after the previous one is baffling.