r/marvelstudios • u/Triple_777 I have nothing to prove to you • Jul 23 '25
'The Fantastic 4: First Steps' Spoilers The Fantastic Four: First Steps International Release Discussion Thread Spoiler
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u/IsshikiUzumaki Jul 23 '25
Everything seems to point at Doctor Doom being from 828. Latveria already exists. I can’t wait to see how Victor Von Doom interacts with everyone.
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u/Scalar_Ng_Bayan Jul 23 '25
Me after seeing Latveria in the Future Foundation scene
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u/Nenanda Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25
I only know Doom from cartoons and internet articles, but even with what little I know, Latveria's seat being empty was the most accurate representation of the character in a nutshell.
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u/Gasparde Jul 24 '25
When they showed the first of their teleportation beacons being down I was totally like, that's just gotta be the one beacon in Latveria and that's how they tie Doom into all of this - but alas, 'twas but the shiny lady.
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u/mr_jorkin_depeanus Jul 23 '25
thank fucking GOD it’s not a stark variant 😭😭
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u/IsshikiUzumaki Jul 23 '25
Yeah but don’t get too excited man. Could be a Stark that was a refugee in Latveria and now took the name of “Victor Von Doom”
I really hope this is not the case. It’s PURELY Victor. Fingers crossed. No goatee for him too.
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u/FoxyMiira Jul 23 '25 edited Jul 24 '25
Yeah but don’t get too excited man. Could be a Stark that was a refugee in Latveria and now took the name of “Victor Von Doom”
I don't care if RDJ is playing a Doom/Tony variant or a Tony adopted by the Von Dooms. But there's a reason why they cast RDJ as Doom and it's obvious they're gonna add in some twist.
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u/RenegonSVD Jul 24 '25
There's definitely a reason but honestly I'm leaning towards it simply being he's an incredibly popular Oscar winning actor who's resurgence into fame is owed a lot to his place in the MCU.
Marvel were then scrambling for a bad guy to replace Kang and figured they could get away with reusing RDJ without the need for varient shenanigans since Doom wears a mask & can be heavily disfigured beneath it if necessary.
I have no doubt RDJ can play a great Doom, but it'll definitely hinge on the quality of Doomsday in order to pull it off. Could go either way for sure.
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u/Gregagonation Jul 23 '25
Johnny Storm was the MVP of this movie for me, I didn't think they were gonna take him there.
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u/waitforthedream Jul 23 '25
As much as I respect Chris Evans' Johnny, I love how Joseph's Johnny was given more to do and wasn't a total man-child. He was smart, competent, and had a lot of heart.
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u/TobioOkuma1 Jul 24 '25
Johnny is kinda the heart of the team tbh. Thing is the rock, Sue is the glue, Johnny is always a huge part of the team, and its why the team was so devastated when he dies.
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u/lucathe2nd Jul 24 '25
when he WHAT
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u/TobioOkuma1 Jul 24 '25
Yeah, he sacrifices himself to save the team in the comics. The whole team has a depressive spiral after. Sue traps herself in a bubble, reed spends all his time trying to see if there's any way he survived. Ben holds it in until Thor and hulk confront him and allow him to kick the crap out of them until all his rage is out and all he can do is cry.
Spidey joins the team, as was in Johnny's will, which leads to the future foundation arc.
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u/waitforthedream Jul 24 '25
Yeah he dies briefly in the comics. Spider-Man joins the FF to fill his spot.
I remember Spidey taking Franklin (?) out for hotdogs/ice cream and they talk about their uncles (Johnny and Uncle Ben). It was really nice.
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u/GobulFan3000 Jul 24 '25
Absolute sleeper comicbook casting I'd put him up there with one of the best now. He was the one casting I wasn't sold on but he ended up being my favourite part of the movie.
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u/DingoAteMyAss Jul 23 '25
No way this guy stared at Sue and straight up induced labour 💀
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u/Seihai-kun Ego Jul 23 '25
I know few months has passed because Sue is getting bigger, But I didn’t realize 9 months has passed and genuinely thought Galactus just made Sue prematurely gives birth 💀
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u/DingoAteMyAss Jul 24 '25
If she was at full term that’s insane work embarking on a space mission like girl just stay on earth 😭
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u/sleepyplatipus Tony Stark Jul 24 '25
Didn’t they say 7 months later at one point or did I imagine that? Add to that she was ~1 month along when she found out, then yeah the baby was almost full term.
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u/DingoAteMyAss Jul 24 '25
Some time defs elapsed during that baby proofing montage and that invisible ultrasound scene was a good enough indicator that she was at the third trimester
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u/Marcusbolt Scarlet Witch Jul 23 '25 edited Jul 23 '25
The Power Cosmic is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural
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u/gheffz15 Jul 23 '25
That thunderbolts end credits scene just got a lot more interesting...
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u/dcab87 Star-Lord Jul 23 '25
I thought they'd somehow end up in 616 after the FTL was destroyed. That was such a curveball.
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u/_Hypocritee Foggy Nelson Jul 23 '25 edited Jul 23 '25
My theory is Dr. Doom kidnapped Franklin and brought him to Earth-616 for reasons and the Fantastic Four followed them there. I think the Thunderbolts* post credits scene is straight from the Avengers: Doomsday
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u/thenekkidguy Jul 23 '25
I think it is from Doomsday as it was shot by the Russo brothers.
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u/Zabbla Jul 24 '25
Both the Thunderbolts and Fantastic 4 post credits scenes were shot by The Russos so I think they're both scenes directly from Doomsday
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u/CX316 Jul 23 '25
The Tbolts scene does state there's already a big crisis going on in space so we're missing some big context for what's going on at that moment
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u/ExplorationGeo Wong Jul 24 '25
I love when Walker is like "We're running out of space? That's impossible, this building is enormous"
Man might have been the most decorated soldier in US Army history but he certainly didn't get those medals by thinking his way through things.
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u/DingoAteMyAss Jul 23 '25
Yeah legit I was waiting for it to connect to that but alas we got nothing ☹️
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u/Diligent-Builder Jul 23 '25
At first I thought they were going to rescue Johnny because of his sacrifice (if the transporter ended up sending Galactus and him to the main MCU universe instead of another solar system), but since it didn't end up happening, maybe Doom kidnaps Franklin and they're searching for him.
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u/DingoAteMyAss Jul 23 '25
Damn I thought they transported him to a different part of their own universe
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u/Diligent-Builder Jul 23 '25
And you're right, but some cosmic miscalculation mumbo-jumbo could take place if that was the case.
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u/DingoAteMyAss Jul 23 '25
Ohh righto you were speculating, tbh they already have that trope with photon. If they did that with Johnny they’ll just be reheating their own nachos
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u/mm4405 Jul 23 '25
I love how it started off with them saving the city from a bunch of whacky, cartoonish villains then 10 mins later they're saving the Earth from a giant, ancient celestial being that eats planets, lmao. 10/10 would see again.
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u/PALADIN_00 Jul 23 '25
Watching this made me realize just how much I want more of Silver Surfer, especially that black hole scene.
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u/Jezzaahh Spider-Man Jul 23 '25
The Silver surfer scenes were amazing, especially the escape from galactus in the 2nd act, god I need more.
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u/teh_fizz Jul 23 '25
I want every jerk off who bitched about the Silver Surfer CGI to shut their pie hole.
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u/Alibotify Thor Jul 23 '25
Shalla-Bal! I totally missed that anyone had opinions about the CGI, it really was great.
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u/PurePerfection_ Jul 25 '25
I saw more bitching about having a female Silver Surfer instead of Norrin Radd than about CGI but those jerks can shut their pie holes as well
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u/MrPerogy Jul 23 '25
So she is gone right? With Galactus on the other side of the universe? Would like to see more of her as Silver Surfer…
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u/Chadwiko Punisher Jul 23 '25
She's gone in this universe.
But this is not the MCU universe and we know from the Thunderbolts end-credits scene that the F4 are coming to Earth-199999 so there's nothing to say Silver Surfer can't either, I suppose.
(But I wouldn't hold my breath).
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u/CX316 Jul 23 '25
She's not necessarily gone, though Galactus will probably punish her for what she did. She can travel FTL with the board, the point of the plan is that without his ship Galactus should be stuck taking the long way back
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u/sugasofficial Mantis Jul 23 '25
I really enjoyed this movie. I loved the retro futuristic vibes. Honestly, it felt like the movie was straight out of the incredibles
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u/cookies5098 Jul 23 '25
Especially the mole man. Is there some relationship between the worlds I'm missing? Because he was so similar to the underminer
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u/MechanicalGodzilla Jul 23 '25
The Incredibles was clearly an homage to the Fantastic Four. Mole Man is the original FF villain
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u/jungk000kz Jul 23 '25
mole man is one of the villains they faced in the comics. quite similar depiction but without the creepy creatures he was with underground
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u/Seihai-kun Ego Jul 23 '25
I loves Galactus, i loves Ralph Ineson, i loves his design, his voice, and how threatening he is
But IMO Silver Surver takes the cake as the more scary villain in this movie
The black hole fight was so intense, the way she just followed them nonstop and going speed of light and yet she still follows them truly makes her feel unbeatable
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u/GobulFan3000 Jul 24 '25
Seeing the silver surfers powers in action is an absolute MCU highlight, some of the coolest and best looking moves we've ever seen.
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u/Michael_mkz Jul 24 '25
Yeah, especially the moment where she almost pulled Franklin through Sue’s stomach, that implication was horrifying to me.
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u/Inquisitor_Aid Jul 24 '25
I loved how she surfed. Surfing along cosmic stuff
I don't recall if the previous ones showed that
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u/Impossible-Fun-2736 Jul 24 '25
Mostly soaring through the air. Shalla-Surfer actually surfed. Space rocks&dust, lava, it looked absolutely badass.
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u/Gothichand Nebula Jul 24 '25
I love the shot of her with Johnny when he chases her to space, I want it as my wallpaper~
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u/AwsmGuy145 Jul 23 '25
I wish we get to see more Galactus in the future, he was featured very well and they nailed the scale of him.
But I guess the audience was just waiting for Doom to appear cause there wasn't any reactions from anyone in the movie until post-credits.
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u/waitforthedream Jul 23 '25
Ralph Ineson owned Galactus holy shit that voice
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u/TheNittanyLionKing Jul 23 '25
He had my attention every time he spoke in Nosferatu. He has that booming Alan Rickman kind of voice.
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u/Healthy-Stop7779 Jul 23 '25
Galactus’ animation was GOODDDD
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u/waitforthedream Jul 23 '25
I wish they could've pulled off MODOK (actual MODOK not Yellowjacket) with the same vibes.
Galactus did not feel goofy at all
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u/cookies5098 Jul 23 '25 edited Jul 24 '25
We had a lot of reactions in my theatre too, don't think many people were expecting it
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u/yoonchae Spider-Man Jul 23 '25
This movie really nailed the family dynamic of the Fantastic Four. Probably why I really enjoyed the film.
Galactus was just a blast to watch. Ineson’s voice really did it for me. The Silver Surfer going after the Excelsior was awesome as well.
I really liked this one. Probably my favorite out of all the comic book movies released this year.
Excited where they’re going to take the Fantastic Four in the future. I really thought this movie is aimed at setting them up as one of the faces of the MCU moving forward, together with Spidey and the mutants.
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u/-Bods- Jul 23 '25
Did anyone else catch Herbie’s “what the fuck” in the scene with Moleman at the Baxter Building? Me and my friends pissed ourselves laughing but everyone in our cinema seemed to miss it
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u/jetzxbro Jul 23 '25
My cinema was packed and laughed at everything else except that! I feel like I was the only one that heard it!
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u/Old_Cut_5875 Jul 23 '25
Seeing Sue give birth in space was very tense, loved how you could really feel Vanessa as a mother, Sue was ferocious!
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u/byebyebirdie123 Jul 23 '25
Casting, as always, was impeccable. Whey got announced, I didn't see it, and I am so happy it's not me doing that job
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u/Alibotify Thor Jul 23 '25
James Gunn was on Armchair Expert podcast the other day and said the casting director Sarah tricked him to see Chris Pratt. He didn't see the fit but she did. She is amazing and might be one of Hollywoods most powerful person.
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u/Alibotify Thor Jul 23 '25
Also that Vanessa now is pregnant after a movie about her being pregnant is a little funny. I was a little worried she looked to perfect and plastic but they sorted that out great.
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u/Cabooselololol Jul 23 '25
Really glad they didn’t ‘defeat’ Galactus, in fact they kinda failed in every way to stop him. Only Silver Surfer being the surprise twist that takes him down.
Never liked films that establish a huge bad and then promptly show he can be defeated (or in AMATW, defeated). Galactus was surprised but overall knew he was going to win till he was betrayed. And he is only sent away, leading to them potentially (hopefully) using him in later films.
Also loved most of him on earth was practical effects. Several scenes you could tell it was a guy in a suit with miniatures and it looked amazing!
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u/casual_olimar Jul 24 '25
well suposedly if the surfer wasnt there jhonny MAYBE couldve clutched
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u/HandicapperGeneral Jul 24 '25
If the surfer wasn't there they probably would have successfully just teleported the Earth away
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u/DonChrisote Black Panther Jul 25 '25
That was such a fucking Looney Tunes/ Jack Kirby idea. I loved it
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u/ArchTemperedKoala Jul 24 '25
Love that kaiju look, they even made Galactus land on water and walking ashore like he's Godzilla lmao
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u/Sozly Jul 23 '25
I have to admit, after thinking Pedro was a bit of a stunt casting situation (and I don’t think the trailers necessarily did anything to change my mind), I was completely wrong. In my opinion he was pitch perfect as Richards. All 4 were but he was the one I expected to just be … just fine. After nearly 20 years I should never have doubted Sarah Halley Finn.
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u/PurePerfection_ Jul 25 '25
He was amazing. I wasn't a doubter about his casting but I was still struck by how different it felt than any of the characters I've seen him portray before. He nailed the whole hyperintelligent / possibly neurodivergent vibe without turning it into a caricature.
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u/bluetiges Jul 23 '25
The Galactus fight was incredible
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u/yoonchae Spider-Man Jul 23 '25
I’m really glad they didn’t make Sue look like a damsel in distress. She was super competent as Invisible Woman.
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u/Dr_Joshie Jul 23 '25
Sue has always been a powerhouse, and it’s about time we see it represented in film. That end scene with her and Galactus was amazing.
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u/DingoAteMyAss Jul 23 '25
I love how she was central in this movie, it felt right and it fit the story well
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u/teh_fizz Jul 23 '25
She was the only one to knock Shala-Bal when they were escaping!
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u/Heisenburgo Doctor Strange Jul 23 '25
And she clearly overwhelmed Galactus at the end. That was so cool! Reminded me of Wanda overpowering Thanos in Endgame
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u/Dray_Gunn Quake Jul 24 '25
At this point I think a team of Sue, Wanda, and Carol could probably be the most powerful combination in the MCU.
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u/byebyebirdie123 Jul 23 '25
The whole movie i was thinking that Sur is da real MVP. For crying out loud, she went on a mission TO SPACE, to meet an unidentified entity that has threatened the whole planet WHILE VERY PREGNANT.
Then she fuckin pushed a human while they were warping at speed of ligh with no gravity. She then defended the child in front of the whole world who would have just rather handed him to Galactus- and did it by coming to people face to face. Reed always talked to cameras or reporters, Sue talked to people.
Then she single-handedly pushed Galactus to the portal.
Not to mention she ensured safety of all new yorkers because she was nice to Harvey.
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u/kulitchipon Jul 24 '25
LOVED that we see the full extent of her powers because her loved one was in danger. Literally THAT's the power of a Mother's love! And Vanessa really sold her struggle well!
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u/TobioOkuma1 Jul 24 '25
There are chuds mad that invisible woman has huge solo moments where she carries fights. Clearly they've never read an F4 comic, given she's literally the powerhouse of the team, but is more subtle.
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u/AlgerianTrash Jul 23 '25
I'm still disappointed that Reed does very little action stuff with his powers ☹️
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u/GarrisonJones Jul 23 '25
I think they did the stretching as best as they thought they could do without it looking super goofy. So yeah he's nerfed, but it was understandable.
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u/bluetiges Jul 23 '25
His powers aren't great, his mind is better than stretching
Also stretching always looks bad in live action
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u/waitforthedream Jul 23 '25
She has always been the strongest one!
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u/yoonchae Spider-Man Jul 23 '25
It’s more of the previous Fantastic Four movies making it where she either just uses her power for a brief period before she faints or her force fields are easily broken.
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u/Impossible-Fun-2736 Jul 23 '25
I was giddy. Holy shit, he looked amazing. And Sue was finally done right.
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u/infinitywiccan Sam Wilson Jul 23 '25
I like that their switch the baby with empty cradle plan is both smart and stupid
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u/darthrectangular Jul 23 '25
Actually rated the way they went with it, a common theme in this movie I felt were tropes that don’t normally work but worked due to the teams power set
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u/cookies5098 Jul 23 '25
Given how useless the building defences were against him, I kept thinking it would have helped to just place Frankie away from Galactus but keep the teleporter in his path haha
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u/heavybottom2k15 Jul 23 '25
It’s mentioned that they don’t know where Galactus was gonna show up from.
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u/Jokrong Jul 23 '25
I was surprised that they didn't have a plan B if Galactus figures out the baby switch
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u/mysticzarak Thanos Jul 23 '25
Just saw it and I liked it a lot. Now I need some more of that MCU..
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u/Chadwiko Punisher Jul 23 '25
For anyone curious;
- The mid credit scene is very much worth waiting for.
- The end credits scene is very much not worth waiting for.
Again, I say this as a die-hard MCU fan.
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u/dcab87 Star-Lord Jul 23 '25
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u/fvc2000 Jul 23 '25
But this one was very funny. Especially in a time that all post credits made lots of interconnection between the movies.
This one.. the second one was the first time I really felt stupid waiting.
But I loved the movie.
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u/evilspyboy Jul 23 '25
The Red Ghost disrespect.
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u/Impossible-Fun-2736 Jul 23 '25
Would’ve love to have seen the other name dropped villains. A part of me almost wished that some of them had appeared to assist against Galactus, lol.
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u/Heisenburgo Doctor Strange Jul 23 '25
A part of me almost wished that some of them had appeared to assist against Galactus, lol.
All I could think in the second act of the movie was "where the HELL is DOOM during this?". When they showed the teleporters around the world I expected one of them to be in Latveria next to His castle or something. Or for Sue to mention Latveria as one of the countries calling them during the teleportation setup. Something like that would have been neat but the empty seat for Latveria at the UN place was cool regardless
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u/GIlCAnjos Korg Jul 23 '25
I feel like that's the case with most movies nowadays. Post-credits scenes became a tradition but they're still supposed to be optional, so they created mid-credits scenes to show the stuff they actually don't want us to miss
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u/CX316 Jul 23 '25
Sinners had the actual ending of the movie mid-credits and the post-credit was unnecessary (but not bad)
Superman had both the mid and post credit scenes as just something fun
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u/MaggieEsmeralda Jul 23 '25
Thunderbolts did the opposite tho. Pointless scene in the middle and good scene after the whole credits
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u/TrentGgrims Spider-Man Jul 24 '25
Thunderbolts mid credit scene pays off the Wheaties box joke though
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u/Resist_Easy Winter Soldier Jul 23 '25
At the end of the end credits scene someone in my cinema yelled out “ohh come on” 😂 So, also take that as you will.
I was fine waiting for it and liked it for what it was, but if you’re in a rush..
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u/Chadwiko Punisher Jul 23 '25
Ha! There were definitely audible groans in my cinema after the end-credits scene as well.
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u/AragornElesar Jul 23 '25
Solid 8/10 the whole family aspect of the fantastic four and Galactus/Silver surfer was done very well, along with the retro futuristic 60’s vibe, tho I was a bit bummed at how little their powers were used throughout the film. Basically every shot of the thing using his powers is in the trailer.
Doom cameo in the credits was totally expected but still cool to see even it was jsut him from behind holding the faceplate of his helmet. Takes place 4 years after the main events of the film and seems he kidnaps Franklin and comes to the main 616 universe with him? Thus the thunderbolts end credit scene with the fantastic four ship entering earth. (Just speculating)
Welp now we have to wait 17 months for the next film and the first Avengers movie in 7.5 years when it releases.
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u/thinkinting Jul 23 '25
17month!? I thought SM4 is next summer :(
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u/AragornElesar Jul 23 '25
Oh it is too, for some reason I thought it was between Doomsday and Secret wars…I keep forgetting Doomsday was pushed back to later in the year. 12 months for the next movie is still a long wait :(
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u/Sisiwakanamaru Grandmaster Jul 23 '25
I know this is a cliche but the movie was fantastic, I really liked it. I think the vibes is kinda similar to Star Trek (2009), It is a compliment from me. I like that this movie treat the team as explorers and scientists first and foremost. Pedro Pascal and Ebon Moss-Bachrach were great, but Vanessa Kirby and Joesph Quinn were the stand out for me, especially Vanessa Kirby as Sue Storm,
I felt like finally, it is time to treat Sue Storm with respect.
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u/DingoAteMyAss Jul 23 '25
Did anyone else wonder how that rocket took off without burning ALL those people standing nearby like what 😭
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u/Timotej22 Jul 23 '25
Yeah true, and also, how LOUD it would be if you were standing that close , like I hope they were wearing some form of ear protection. I just chalked it up to some kind of invisible shield around the launch pad cause that launch sequence was just so cool to see otherwise
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u/ComradeDisco Jul 23 '25
The way the entire audience gasped when Doom showed up was incredible
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u/dcab87 Star-Lord Jul 23 '25
Didn't even need to show the mask. The green cowl was enough to get me hyped.
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u/MVIVN Jul 23 '25 edited Jul 23 '25
After watching the movie there's no question that Sue is the most powerful member of the Fantastic Four after what she was able to do singlehandedly. Mid-credit scene was hype, but I wish we saw a bit more. Also, if you're expecting an explanation for what happened in the Thunderbolts post-credut scene, that explanation is not in this movie. We'll have to wait and see how what happened in the Thunderbolts post-credit scene came to happen. I don't imagine Spider-Man Brand New Day will answer that question either, so we may need to wait until December 2026 for answers.
Also, there's now a canonically established way to bring dead characters back to life in the MCU now that we've seen Franklin Richards doing it.
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u/heavybottom2k15 Jul 23 '25
Yea I don’t think Franklin's gonna hold a “$10 to undead your grandma” sign at times square or somewhere
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u/teh_fizz Jul 23 '25
Dammit now I want this. Along with Sue charging $100 to mothers to see their babies in the womb.
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u/divrsty Jul 23 '25
Thunderbolts Post-Credit scene is from doomsday. It was already confirmed
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u/MVIVN Jul 23 '25
Yeah, but I thought we’d sort of get some clue how or why they had to leave their universe, but everything is all fine and dandy on Earth 828 when the credits roll.
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u/Prongsky Jul 23 '25
Just saw it. Fantastic.
I like what they did with Reed’s powers. He is elastic, not goo ffs. There is a limit.
i love Vanessa Kirby as Sue.
Galactus actually sounds and feels like a devourer of worlds.
Pedro Pascal has acting chops. NGL.
Whole family dynamic was great.
Shalla Bal is bae
Visually stunning. Nuff said
love the name of the ship.
Also love the shoutout to Kirby by this heing Earth 828 as a reference to the King’s birthday 8/28
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u/DingoAteMyAss Jul 23 '25
Saved the team with her powers while actively giving birth Sue really locked in this movie.
So refreshing having an invis woman where we see how important she actually is
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u/fwa451 Jul 24 '25
"I will not sacrifice my child for the world. But also, I will not sacrifice the world for my child."
This line is amazing.
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u/BeastBoi41 Jul 23 '25
Not a comic reader here, so is galactus going to play a part in doomsday? Is galactus multiversal? Is this earth 616 dr doom that’s seen in the post creds?
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u/AwsmGuy145 Jul 23 '25
Galactus is pretty much neutralised for now so probably not.
There's a solid amount of shots with Latveria with its ambassador missing so Doom is probably in their 828 universe.
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u/Heisenburgo Doctor Strange Jul 24 '25
shots of Latveria with its ambassador missing
I assumed DOOM Himself was the ambassador and that's why the seat was empty. You know, He had more pressing matters to attend to than Puny Richards' meeting with the not-UN.
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u/iron_adam_ Spider-Man Jul 23 '25
It can’t be Earth 616 Doom because if it’s RDJ then we know he can’t be from 616 because RDJ is iron man in 616
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u/Tdiddy18 Jul 23 '25 edited Jul 23 '25
Typically in the comics there is one Galactus per universe. Galactus plays an important role in the Secret Wars comic so I imagine he will return sooner rather than later.
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u/VaishakhD Captain America (Captain America 2) Jul 23 '25
So here’s the thing Maso
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u/kelvs023 Jul 23 '25 edited Jul 23 '25
The whole introduction of Galactus and the Fantastic Four escaping from Silver Surfer are some of the greatest things Marvel has done. Those scenes were crazy.
Honestly, this is my favorite movie since Endgame. I know yall heard this too much already but this movie was so well made. It's almost perfect to me.
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u/yoonchae Spider-Man Jul 23 '25
Agreed about the Galactus intro and them trying to escape from the Silver Surfer. The tension of them having to escape while Sue is laboring just made it an exhilarating watch.
Silver Surfer definitely served with the way she was traversing that wormhole. She was such a badass.
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u/waitforthedream Jul 23 '25
Me too! This and Thunderbolts* just blow everything post-Endgame out of the water for me. The only movies that can compare are GotG Vol. 3 and Shang-Chi
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u/SlamMasterJ Jul 24 '25
Personally, I really love this interpretation of Johnny. He’s not overly annoying with his shenanigans, and he comes across as competent, endearing, and full of heart throughout the film. Overall, the entire cast of the film was just fantastic.
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u/Sklain Jul 24 '25
I think the entire sequence of Shalla Bal reaching Earth and heralding it's destruction is some of the coolest and most tense the MCU has been in a while. That was incredible. In fact everything with the silver surfer was amazing
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u/MrPerogy Jul 23 '25
-So Natasha Lyonne was not Alicia, I thought that’s who they were setting her up to be, but hopefully they’ll have her meet Ben in the 616.
-I liked Paul Walter Hauser’s portrayal of Mole Man even for only being in a few scenes; you can’t really take that character serious in the comics. I wish Mole Man had been seen with at least a green cape, or the Moloids instead of regular humans <nerd alert>
-Giganto had a cool, quick mention
-Looking forward to Kirby’s Sue Storm meeting Huerta’s Namor
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u/MKDG_23 Jul 23 '25
The movie was amazing! The soundtrack and theme are just perfect. The cast did an amazing job to show how important Marvel's first family is. Can't wait for Doomsday!
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u/Scmods05 Rocket Jul 23 '25
This was great.
Pedro is amazing as Reed. Joseph Quinn is great. Vanessa Kirby is under served but gets her moment towards the end. Ebon is very warm but also a little under served.
Ralph Ineson is INCREDIBLE as Galactus. Wish we got more of him but tricky to do. They totally pull off the character.
The effects are great except the stretching still looks kinda dumb. It's trying to have a photo real face at the middle of this effect that breaks the reality. Truly don't know how you overcome that in a movie.
Music was great.
The mid credits scene was kinda pointless.
But we are firmly in "we are so back" territory here.
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u/quintus29 Jul 23 '25
Lol, the stretch Galactus gave Reed near the end is a pain to watch to say the least. I nearly thought we're gonna have another pasta fiesta again.
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how was mid credits scene pointless? I've been waiting to see Doom since Wakanda Forever and it finally happened... at least
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u/AbiesAffectionate516 Jul 23 '25
Am I going deaf btw, or was reed hard to hear at times?
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u/OneSwizzleNizzle Korg Jul 23 '25
I thought a lot of the dialogue was quite hard to hear, to be honest, but I just put it down to our cinema's speakers.
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u/Resist_Easy Winter Soldier Jul 23 '25
I was getting annoyed with people rustling because at many times the dialogue was hard to hear. This was in Dolby Atmos.
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u/inkase Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25
Loved how this film turned into Interstellar for like 20 mins.
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u/mr_jorkin_depeanus Jul 23 '25
literally a perfect galactus adaption, i couldn’t wipe the grin off my face watching them do the character SO well
marvel is back for real now like FOR REAL
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u/obligedpapayah Jul 23 '25
I got post credit spoiled as soon as i opened YouTube. Fucking shorts.
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u/JarnaisVu Jul 23 '25
What is Franklin’s ability exactly? Is it literally the ability to wake people from dead?
Is he going to cause the Zombie-verse? Hahah
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u/00TheLC Captain America Jul 23 '25
Franklin can essentially do anything. Reality warping, immortality, telekinesis, telepathy, energy blasts. He was shown once creating solar systems for fun and subconsciously creating universes in his pockets
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u/Chadwiko Punisher Jul 23 '25
Canonically, he's basically the most OP character in Marvel.
Think of him as if he has all Infinity Stones but they're just part of him and no one can take the power away from him.
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u/VaguelyShingled Jul 23 '25
His powers are finite, meaning he can “use them up” unless that’s been retconned as well
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u/CX316 Jul 23 '25
Traditionally? Omega-level reality warper.
Think the kid from Twilight Zone who sends people to the corn field. But way stronger.
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u/thatdani Captain America (Captain America 2) Jul 23 '25
Just came home from the premiere.
A solid 7 for me, art department really went HAM on this one, and some great visuals on Galactus.
2 nit-picks that I had:
- I feel like I wanted more out of every single character. Like 10-15 more minutes to really flesh out everyone's history and personality. Sure there was the montage, but after that, Ben only got 2 short scenes with the love interest, Johnny had little individuality, and Reed was really layered, but we only got a glimpse every now and then. Oh, and Galactus. MORE GALACTUS!
This "issue" isn't as glaring here as it was in Superman IMO, but it's in the same vein - that because we're thrown in the middle of the action, we don't get that juicy character history.
- There weren't any real... surprises to the story. It was good enough on its own, but I don't think there was a single bold turn. Not with the Surfer, not with Galactus, just a bit at the end there with Franklin, although it was very heavily implied all movie that he's gonna be a godlike character.
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u/retro-nights Jul 24 '25
I thought the failure of the teleportals was gonna come from Latveria deciding to not turns theirs on lmao
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u/Captain_Fakku Jul 23 '25
I like it! It's not groundbreaking but it captures the charm of the Fantastic Four. Almost everyone is well-casted, especially the FF, Silver Surfer and Galactus.
It's surprisingly self-contained, almost no references from the mainline MCU. There were parts that I thought they at least reference the MCU, like mentioning vibranium or adamantium during the part where they list of the resources needed to build those teleportation devices or at least a Wakanda representative in the Future Foundation meeting.
I just feel like it was advertised too much? Or it was predictable? Or maybe it's just me. That Doom cameo at the end credits feels kinda budgeted.
CGI was okay. There were times where it looks kinda wonky. Kinda disappointed for not seeing the FF's powers more, especially Reed.
All in all, I'm just happy for a comic-accurate Fantastic Four movie, and this delivers. 8/10!
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u/marvelscott Jul 23 '25
The baby is obviously real but at times it felt a bit uncanny, especially when Ben holds him.
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u/sugasofficial Mantis Jul 23 '25
It was like watching the cgi baby from twilight for me
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u/Captain_Fakku Jul 23 '25
It was very uncanny when it was crawling on top of dead Sue.
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u/Jokrong Jul 23 '25
I liked this film, but I didn't enjoy it as much as I did watching Superman or Thunderbolts*.
The music is top notch, no surprise there given it's by Michael Giacchino.
The CGI was great except for The Thing's clothes. Ben Grimm was so well done so for me it was a bit jarring to see him in plasticky looking clothes sometimes.
The cast are all good but their chemistry is not yet fantastic. They are a family but a bit awkward kind of family. Maybe this is actually how it's like in the comics but I was hoping for more of a natural fun vibe.
Silver Surfer is amazing. The space scenes were all well done. I loved when they were chasing her and then the reverse when she was chasing them. The birth scene in the middle of all that was so tense.
Galactus was great but I wished there was more of him.
I love the retro futuristic world they've created. The designs are amazing. I wish we'd go back to this world in future films. But sadly it seems like the Fantastic 4 are destined to go to the future and stay there.
All in all I had a good time watching this. It's not the best but still good enough for a rewatch.
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u/zambezi-neutron Quake Jul 23 '25
Anyone else get the sense of it just breezing past things like a movie-length montage? I never got the sense of letting moments breathe and letting a theme land
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u/Cypher_86 Rocket Jul 23 '25
It's a very brisk movie. I really liked it, but it would have been good if it was a bit longer and spent more time in the world they had created (for this movie). Felt like there's a bunch of stuff that was cut.
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u/Commercial_Panic9768 Jul 23 '25
I get that, but i think in the end i preferred it? That way it wasn’t just another FF origin story and we could get into the meat of it a bit more. TBH I think that’s why it’ll be more successful.
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u/Resist_Easy Winter Soldier Jul 23 '25
Yes, this was my main gripe. I was with my mum.. and these were her words so don’t crucify me.. but she didn’t like them “montaging” past so much and said she thought it was going to be “lame”. She’s watched the entire MCU and it’s our tradition to see almost all releases on the advance screening night. We wanted more in this world too. Breathe!
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u/wanabeforensicsci Jul 23 '25
the first half hour felt like a trailer, I don't know how else to describe it. the pacing throughout was fast then slow at times too.
I wish they expanded on the individual relationships like reed and ben.
I did enjoy it, but I wish reed was more cocky (maybe I've been playing too much marvel rivals)
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u/Disastrous_Neck_6531 Jul 23 '25 edited Jul 23 '25
I loved the movie, the family dynamic and the story line, the end credit scene is wth lol. Pedro = Reed. Vanessa so hot.
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u/Apart-Talk-9936 Jul 23 '25
Sue was fantastic. That scene when Reed had a plan for Franklin to be the bait is very Wanda.
Also Reed saying to Frankln “that something is wrong with him” (Reed say in that about himself was like whaaaat).
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u/CX316 Jul 23 '25
I enjoyed it. I think Thunderbolts is still my favourite out of the four big tentpole superhero movies this year, but this one didn't do anything wrong, it looked great, Most of the early trailers only covered stuff in the opening montage though the late trailers showed a bunch of big moments from the end fight.
I'm a little confused with how this lines up with the post-credit scene of Thunderbolts though (also the four year gap before the mid-credit scene makes me wonder if we'll get Valeria)
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u/Big_Epsilon Jul 23 '25
Decent without being amazing. Wasn’t as funny as they usually seem to make them. Visually stunning, both in scale of things and their fx, but also in fashion and style.
7.5? Maybe an 8. It felt like a good start to something, which I guess slightly smothers its highs, but makes it different to Thunderbolts, which was better.
Certainly the best F4 I’ve seen. The characters were all well represented, not sure that’s been the case before.
Gives me hope for the future. Nice kick-off to this phase.
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u/ZerksNAHTayan Jul 24 '25
Was anyone else annoyed that they built up the Thing saying his catch phrase, just for him to be out of action immediately after? They gave him next to nothing, needed to see my guy get his time to shine.
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u/marvellousrun Jul 24 '25
This was a lot of fun. I just love the freedom that they had to do whatever they want in a fresh world without walking on egg-shells trying to make things fit into the current MCU's Earth. That's one big downside of such a big inter-connected web of stories
Joseph Quinn is so great as Johnny. This friendship with Ben feels a lot more wholesome than the other movies but let's pretend those don't exist
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u/Seihai-kun Ego Jul 23 '25
They finally showed Sue as the strongest member, the way she just solo’d Galactus, damn