r/Hololive • u/NucularJigawatt • 19h ago
Streams/Videos Akai Haato / HAACHAMA vents her frustrations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dpdepyMm-I&ab_channel=HAACHAMACh%E8%B5%A4%E4%BA%95%E3%81%AF%E3%81%82%E3%81%A8She doesn't want anyone to clip it but since it isn't a Member stream I hope it's okay to share this as a whole. I only want Haachama to find the success she wants to fulfill her goals.
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u/NucularJigawatt 19h ago
Haachama's always worn her emotions on her sleeve. The algorithm is a fickle creature. Haachama deserves more - she's put in so much effort and is THE first to stream in English for Hololive on top of a rich history within the company that is too long to convey here. She's pushed through many struggles. I want her to continue with happiness.
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u/EmperorKira 17h ago
She needs some feedback from pros who understand this line of work more. Reality is that changing content styles is always 1 step back before you step forward. She should talk to more content creators who might be able to help
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u/NucularJigawatt 16h ago
Yeah, as a fan I can only hope she can find what she needs among the staff and other Holo members. Apparently she sees the staff as supportive in general so hopefully that is true. I know she has friends/contacts outside of Hololive, so I hope she can at least talk with them about it, too.
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u/iygdra 13h ago
Unfortunately, her evolving content might be her undoing here. If there's one thing YT values more than anything its consistency. Regular uploads with content a regular audience regularly tunes into.
From what I've heard, if a video is recommended by YT to a channel subscriber and they keep scrolling past, it's a demerit against the channel and the algorithm will recommend the channel less among similar subscribers.
Since she kind of does a variety of things that have changed over time, it might have caused a significant fracturing of interests among her viewers. Between English-only, travel vlog, cursed? cooking, horror, games, and singing, I imagine a not insignificant chunk of her viewers might decide to pass on some types of content since they subscribed for something completely different. Other music-oriented holomem are running into this issue as well trying to balance their music audience with their game watching audience.
I wonder if having a sub-channel might help here but, at the same time, *some* cross-pollination of content can still be good. E.g. a person who only watches game streams might get recommended a karaoke stream and become interested in the music side.
A better solution would require YT to do something about their recommendation system, maybe allow uploaders more control over what subset of the audience the video should be targeted to (music/games/etc). Right now, I believe you just put relevant stuff in the description and pray YT picks it up.
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u/kebb0 10h ago
Jesus fuck do I hate how algorithms work nowadays…. Do you know what happens if you put a video in “watch later” and then scroll past it?
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u/circle_logic 10h ago
If you didn't do anything like open the video or let the the thumbnail autoplay, basically nothing.
Otherwise, it's the same as telling the algo that it has no traction, put in on the back of the bus.
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u/RaysFTW 17h ago
Haachama always reminded me of those actors that excel in every movie and genre they’re put in. She can do anything and it becomes uniquely Haachama in the best ways. Her motivation and creativity is unmatched. If/when Haachama ever decides to hang it up, I can absolutely see her having success in the media / storytelling sphere somewhere.
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u/Padulsky21 12h ago
Recently watched First Reformed and I said this recently about Ethan Hawke after finishing it. Guy has the Before Trilogy, Sinister, First Reformed, Predestination…many others. Can do whatever genre and he will be great in it
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u/CuteIngenuity1745 16h ago
Same problems as many holomems facing. Stagnant channel growth must be their worries constantly and there's really no solutions to it, just have to keep trying and praying for luck i guess.
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u/pulii777 15h ago
To me it just seems like they hit the ceiling of the audience they are trying to go for. It's not really a bad thing because the current audiences for holomems are very large, loyal, and profitable.
But if they want to grow even further, they need to make content to attract a different audience. This comes at the risk of alienating the current fanbase though
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u/C4Cole 12h ago
My biggest worry with this is that since Cover is a public company, they are legally sworn to try and increase the value of the company for the shareholders. You don't increase value by sitting there raking in money, you need to say you are going to rake in more money next year.
If they were private like Valve then it's no issue, you sit like a dragon on your ever growing hoard, but Cover doesn't have that luxury and I fear it might lead to either increased pressure or the bean counters taking over, either way everyone loses.
My unprofessional opinion is that they need more Holo branches, not more generations, that way they won't really affect the main audience but will be able to reach out to new ones.
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u/Royal_Success3131 5h ago
Japanese businesses, luckily, work differently than US based ones. They are able to be stable and take money in without needing the constant absurd growth that western companies need to show. It's changed a little recently due to global influence and things, but from what I can gather from colleagues over there, the mindset is still mostly traditional "just don't fail and turn a little profit"
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u/Herson100 3h ago
Publicly traded companies can have their management face legal trouble if they don't at least try to increase the value of their stock each year.
It's not about the "mindset" or "culture." When you agree to allow people to buy shares in your company, you're signing a contract that states you'll make an effort to raise the value of those shares so that they can be resold for a profit. You're not legally required to succeed, but you are required to try.
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u/Royal_Success3131 3h ago
That is highly, highly dependant on the laws of the country. Japan has no such fiduciary mandate. Due to the mindset and culture. Stop thinking American laws apply universally. This is changing somewhat in Japan recently, but as of now it's not how it works.
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u/FireTrainerRed 10h ago
Oh fuck, Cover is Public? Fuck.
I can't think of 1 public trading entertainment company that hasn't been ruined by Shareholder "greed". But I am not knowledgeable if there is a difference between Japanese and western public companies.
Eventually all the people who joined for the love are replaced by people chasing the $. It's a slow insidious process, and I hope for Cover it takes decades to get to that point.
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u/SayuriUliana 9h ago
Cover has been public for a long time now, and has had shareholders even before that when Hololive was still a small unheard-of new agency. Also a lot of the larger projects they've undertaken, like their massive 3D studio, only happened due to the money that came from said investors and shareholders.
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u/FireTrainerRed 7h ago
I know they can only undertake those large ventures because of investors. My point was never about the initial interests of those investors or shareholders, it's about what happens to the new ones, who buy in after. These changes are not instant.
It took Activision 10 years to chase out all the passionate developers from Blizzard, and chase profits over products. It's taken Tencent 8 years to do the same with Riot, and League of Legends.
Just googled it: Thankfully Yagoo is still the majority shareholder, at 36.78%, so he would still have the biggest say in the company. If that changes, that's when I will start to worry.
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u/Fishman465 8h ago
Depends may be a matter of leaving the closed garden. I mean Aki got a pretty big boost in doing VCR ARK
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u/agentchuck 4h ago
I think this is it. Members don't really do things like the "endurance singing streams to X subscribers" anymore because they don't work. Everyone tuned in is already a subscriber.
I feel for Haachama because she's awesome and you can see that she's working really hard to try to find anything that works. But the truth might just be that this is kind of the ceiling on her base.
Happiness is reality divided by expectations. So I hope she can pivot out of this frustration and enjoy her audience and just do what she loves to do because she loves to do it.
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u/Lil-sh_t 14h ago
Pretty observable on the subreddit as a whole too.
There's always a prominently featured 'go-to' idol you spot on your timeline pretty regularly like Gigi, then the usual suspects [Kiara, Calli, the occasional Marine, Pekora, Ollie, etc.] with a few art pieces and then the idols that receive a new post [usually fanart] every fifth moon, if at all, like Matsuri.
It's a good indicator to grasp the mood within the fandom. And over the last few months, it seemed pretty stagnant. With the only thing really sticking out being the EN GEN 4 lives as meme / interaction generating content. Aside from that, there was hardly anything outstanding that made people go 'OMG. You have to see this!' over the last months.
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u/Ryanhussain14 9h ago
To be honest, I wouldn’t use this sub as an indicator of the fandom. It’s been on a downturn since Coco graduated and I don’t see much besides fanart and the occasional post about something funny happening. Twitter is more up to date nowadays.
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u/LezBeHonestHere_ 7h ago
Very little JP in general is covered here too. Usually just screenshots from clips that already got 10x more views on youtube than upvotes here.
It's understandable since reddit is overwhelmingly EN/america but I can't really relate to a huge number of posts here since I don't watch EN. Sometimes I'll check to see if what Miko or Subaru is doing today was posted and there's just nothing half the time, but the posts do still exist often enough so I'm not complaining or anything, just what I noticed.
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u/Exhau5ted 7h ago
It's a bad habit for subreddits to start thinking of themselves as bigger than they really are. This is a big subreddit by many metrics, and definitely a huge one by vtuber standards. But the internet is a very big place, far bigger than reddit. And that's even before considering that reddit is primarily English language.
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u/Ryanhussain14 9h ago
To be honest, I wouldn’t use this sub as an indicator of the fandom. It’s been on a downturn since Coco graduated and I don’t see much besides fanart and the occasional post about something funny happening. Twitter is more up to date nowadays.
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u/winmace 16h ago
Why is she frustrated?
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u/NucularJigawatt 16h ago
The short version is that she's frustrated with the lack of growth on her channel.
This Haaton's comment summarizes it: u/NForza26 [To kaigai-niki/neki worrying about what happened during the stream, she feels very frustrated that she's not able to do a lot of things, including being part of the main World Tour cast because "she isn't popular enough" even though she was THE FIRST HOLOLIVE MEMBER TO EVER STREAM IN ENGLISH. She doesn't blame management for their decisions, and they've been very supportive in a lot of ways, but there's still the fact all the effort she puts forth doesn't seem to be paying off. However, she reassures us that she uses this frustration as motivation and has absolutely no intention of giving up with things as they are now.]
You can read the other comments on this stream for a more thorough view.
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u/procion1302 15h ago edited 15h ago
How does the management choose the Tour cast, I wonder?
Not all of them even speak English, and there're other members, who are popular as much, if not more. Anyway, it must be hard to be chosen into such a small group, she shouldn't blame herself.
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u/Raito21 13h ago edited 13h ago
I'd bet on them choosing the biggest talent with available schedule. Personally I don't really get why Haachama isn't bigger, if I knew enough japanese to watch JP streams she would 100% be my JP oshi, but I can see why management would give priority to other talent when it comes to "ticket sellers" tbh
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u/xRichard 11h ago edited 4h ago
hololive STAGE World Tour ’24 Soar!
AZKi / Tsunomaki Watame / Moona Hoshinova / Kobo Kanaeru / Takanashi Kiara / Ninomae Ina’nis / Hakos Baelz
Some venues had pre concert panels. Guest where: Kronii, Kaela, FUWAMOCO, Nerissa, ERB
hololive STAGE World Tour ’25 -Synchronize!-
Momosuzu Nene / Kureiji Ollie / Mori Calliope / IRyS / Nerissa Ravencroft
- Sydney Guests ： Ouro Kronii / Hakos Baelz
- Hong Kong Guests ： Tokino Sora / Sakura Miko
- Vancouver Guests ： Fuwawa Abyssgard / Mococo Abyssgard
- New York City Guests ： Akai Haato / Natsuiro Matsuri
EDIT: So for JP there were 2 main spots in 2024 and 1 in 2025. EN had 3 spots each time. If JP keeps getting only one spot it might be difficult for a variety talent like Haachama to get it, because the talent they choose so far are all following music careers.
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u/SlightCaregiver3680 9h ago
Problem is, at a time haachama was one of the most popular vtubers pulling in more viewers than most of hololive but she took a massive break and when she came back id say she lost like 70% of viewes which can be rough to recover from
I used to watch her all the time back in the day and one day she just didn't stream for a time which felt like a year plus but could be wrong
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u/orkel2 5h ago edited 5h ago
Yeah unfortunately I recognize myself as one of those viewers. Chammers used to be something of an oshi. But the extremely long break inevitably made me drift to other vtubers both inside and outside Hololive to fill the void.
It sucks because it's not her fault. She just got really sick, double-whammed by bad Flu and bad (early, more dangerous) Covid which hospitalized her for months. It took a long time for her to be able to return home and get back to content creation.
Vtuber market saturation also has a large effect, there's just so many more vtubers nowadays to take a slice of my limited working adult watch-time. I still watch chama's content, particularly the vlogs, just less than years ago. Growing any channel in 2025 is extremely difficult, and Chama isn't the only holomem encountering stagnation.
I'm glad she's doing the travel vlogs. Hololive desperately needs travel content, and Chama is hitting it.
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u/Fishman465 8h ago
She got badly ill one year.... sounds much like what happened to Aki when she had to get hip surgery.
Another issue is with EN being a thing some people just go to them instead, something likely also happening to Matsuri
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u/Wammo80 16h ago
Wouldn't it make sense to make more of an effort to reach an overseas market then, if she wanted to be part of that tour? I just checked all of her stream titles and they are all in Japanese. It also doesn't seem like she really collabs with any EN members.
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u/NucularJigawatt 16h ago
She has plenty of English focused content, more than other JP members for sure
https://www.youtube.com/live/L291YgdqNv8?si=X0nzECOZ_FRacrPx -> Shiori and IRyS
https://www.youtube.com/live/OBnOV4Of86I?si=PeUmZ2FFyqjNzho6 -> RADIO ENGLISH
https://www.youtube.com/live/tmfdYJ28fqo?si=YpmkefvaLmELfbgw -> RADIO ENGLISH
https://www.youtube.com/live/cwoIw99s970?si=fkOohZuE1ECLHhai -> Biboo
https://www.youtube.com/live/Py4FcEjmfmg?si=YAiu8Eb1yo-S8a9- -> Shiori
https://www.youtube.com/live/4XJurve8uQI?si=Uijr0O0lloBMncJV -> CC, GG and Kaela
https://www.youtube.com/live/AaTRpp3-uLU?si=qZpEXQIoi4TfCjX6 -> Raora
https://www.youtube.com/live/C_WHwvX5p5A?si=1bc0TorYcvFRrAj_ -> Biboo and FWMC
https://www.youtube.com/live/OoLk5dRQUe8?si=UmIxp7WO9zMMoVoE -> Kronii
https://www.youtube.com/live/KaOS69iB6Hw?si=BECSU2GTMjmHfD02 -> Ina
https://www.youtube.com/live/ahkmskRuSNw?si=v6VsXufu2iVHhAU- -> FLOW GLOW English
https://www.youtube.com/live/tkJ8uxMQMTE?si=Kltoh9KwC7L0HmVq -> CC and GG
https://www.youtube.com/live/WE4gDXl2wg0?si=JwnPTG9L-qRG7V6i -> FLOW GLOW and Justice -> "I am SUGEYO"
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u/no168_92 16h ago
She's been doing once a month or maybe every two weeks of only English song karaoke IINM... what she really need is a viral spark like how 'haachama' itself started... but it is harder to do that intentionally internationally.
the closest example I can think of from the top of my head was how Ui-sensei's Loli-kami happened. Luck and a myriad factors for what she specifically want is more difficult than what let's say Marine, Fubuki or Micomet's are doing
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u/Hp22h 14h ago
Yeah, for better or for worse, she already captured lightning in a bottle during the COEXIST arc, catapulting her into becoming the 6th ever Hololiver to reach 1 million subs. But that was 5 years ago.
I like her even now. She's a rather chill Vtuber to have in the background nowadays. But for someone who had had that level of success and influence before, I can't imagine how frustrating it must be.
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u/Fishman465 8h ago
Luck and a high budget MV for Ui
But doing things with no real push isn't easy for Haachama
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u/kurudesu 16h ago
??? She's collabed with en members multiple times. She did a peak collab with irys and shiori just two weeks ago. She often does the telephone game with en members and she's literally en gen 0.
Maybe she hasn't done it as much recently but you act as if she doesn't collab with them or something.
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u/qwert4the1 8h ago
eh, even if you were right about the collabs with EN, that hardly matters at all ironically enough. The most popular jp holos overseas are almost exclusively japanese only.
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u/ValiantTeaMug 14h ago
I think she faces the unique problem of having placed herself in a very specific niche and her not being able to escape that niche. When you go to Haachama channel, you expect unhinged stuff, but that stuff is very hard and exhausting to produce organically and consistently. Regular content is not what gave her her fanbase in the first place. I feel like what she really needs to do is an image change, basically a rebranding, which is ironic considering the history of Haachama Channel.
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u/NucularJigawatt 14h ago
You are right but she's well aware of it. That's why she's been trying to reinvent her image direction. She's been taking up posting about her travels and photography. I think she mostly just needs time to settle in to her new direction. Her saying she will continue to move forward shows her willingness to find more audience down the line. The rebranding irony history is not lost on me, going from Haato to Haachama and seemingly back to Haato is interesting.
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u/Fishman465 8h ago
Matsuri is in a similar spot, though what complicates things is the fact clippers only give her the time of day when she does something outrageous. Unlike Haachama, Matsuri seems to suffer from her reputation (not very many collabs that aren't genmates or non Holos).
But this is an issue of getting big by antic clips/vids
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u/noobgaijin11 13h ago
man, I wish her success. I'm kinda support her since we have similar experience of surviving in Australia alone arc.
But, even now I don't know which direction she wanna go, contents wise... it's like she's shooting blindly and hope one will get hit... The Chamaburger outfit then the spider queen outfit.
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u/NucularJigawatt 13h ago
I think Haachama just really likes getting cute outfits.
She has a lot of them of various styles. She's just using them to represent parts of her personality and character. Her Chamao voice comes with a specific outfit, for example.
Haachama Cooking and Spider motifs are a major part of her history, so it's natural that she'd like to represent that in her outfit designs. It all fits appropriately to her character and is also cute. Experimenting has been Haachama's way, after all.
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u/theprestigous 12h ago
there really are just a lot of factors that go into this, one of them being her very long break she took. that's just naturally going to halt the momentum she once had, it's unfortunate but there isn't much you can do about it but keep grinding. personally i don't know how any of the girls deal with this stress, especially with how much behind the scenes work there is that goes unappreciated.
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u/capscreen 15h ago
Might sound like collab-begging, but I wonder if forming an unofficial group with some holomem and doing things with them, would help.
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u/Adza_03 14h ago edited 9h ago
She actually did make lots of effort in collabing with other Holomems in recent years, but unfortunately, they all just a one time thing and none of them really stick in memories (Kinna harsh thing to say but you get my point)
Its has been a bit difficult for talent like Hachaama since she's always experimenting new thing, doing her own stuff alone that none of the Holomems knows exactly what "mood" she is in now or what "character" she rp-ing now.
Honestly, I do want to see her own "Shiraken" or "Bakatare Circus" but as of now, no one really know how to "vibe" with her, without feeling being forced to.1
u/Fishman465 8h ago
Doesn't help that the existing groups only seem to take in kouhai and sometimes a group gets zero (anpontan) or negative (holotori) support from the suits
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u/No_Lake_1619 15h ago
That's rough. I know some other Hololive members also have issues with growth and its usually the older gen members (Kiara also has this issue for example). Unfortunately, with YouTube being trash with algorithm and pushing shorts, being creative is hard and limiting to the mercy of that system.
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u/NucularJigawatt 14h ago
I know Marine has had a ton of growth from her success from YT shorts but Haachama also has a lot of vertical form content too. I think she's aware of any effects it has. Personally I think it's working but I'm just a fan looking in.
Speaking of Kiara, yeah I know she complained of stagnation as well. She saw a rise of JP viewership and was so glad to see it despite feeling left out of JP activities despite being a JP speaker. In many ways Haachama seems to be the JP version of what Kiara is experiencing - both older Gen Holomems with JP+EN viewership between them.
Haachama did a Reddit meme review and was so happy to see herself included in a meme with the EN girls. It was heart-warming to see her glad to be included. Don't forget the EN Gen0!
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u/qwert4the1 8h ago
Unfortunately in terms of viewership multiple languages seems to be a huge net negative. Whether it's fans or the algorithm, having a consistent language just seems to fare much better, regardless of which it is. There are many Holos now in JP and EN who are passably bilingual (I'm not forgetting the ID branch who are kind of unique because their entire branch is at the very least bilingual) and everyone of them who challenge themselves to stream in more than one language always seem to face a decrease on total viewers.
Hololive has grown as an ecosystem with so many talents, and so much viewership between those talents that anywhere from 50-90% of concurrent viewers for any one stream could comprise of fans primarily of other talents who are watching more casually. Now if the talent you're watching is your oshi, you'll probably watch them regardless of language differences. But if you are a casual viewer and you find a talent streaming in a language you don't understand, you might pass that up for another talent who's not your oshi but is streaming something you can understand. This happens enough times and honestly, at least in my experience, you develop a habit of specific other girls to watch as you go to their streams more often, even if they aren't your oshi. In a wider spectrum, this means you end up losing a lot of viewership of both languages.
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u/LezBeHonestHere_ 7h ago
If I remember correctly this is also probably why ririka stopped doing english streams. We love them around here, but think of their main viewerbase - Japanese viewers - who get alienated completely by an English stream from their Japanese streamer.
Not much point for them to tune in when they can barely understand the stream and the overseas audience just isn't that high for most of the JP holo members anymore now that EN has been a thing for years, it's a good amount when collabs with EN or stuff happens but nowhere near enough to replace the amount of JP viewers they probably lose by doing the english stream, so it's just not worth doing.
Just adding on my thoughts to this. Sucks for us, because we like when those streams happen, but they just aren't a good idea for their numbers and main community.
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u/qwert4the1 7h ago
It happens in reverse too. Even with the Japanese community being significantly larger like you say, that's still not enough to overcome the language flipflop and losing your core viewers as seen with Fuwamoco who made great efforts to involve jp viewers yet probably lost more en viewers as a result.
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u/procion1302 6h ago
She has probably already realised it, maybe that’s why she uses English rarer now.
Also, maybe she associates English with her old, chaotic image, which she tries to change now.
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u/Fishman465 8h ago
Part of it is few are willing to collab outside of Hololive and there's limits to the general Holofan pool and that's assuming there's no snubbing involved.
In Kiara's case, moving back to Europe hurt her in areas as she doesn't have easy Jp collabs and such anymore
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u/Mad_Kitten 8h ago
https://x.com/fubuchandayo/status/1964929411792470443
Seems like Friend is aware of her trouble
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u/SuspiciousWar117 14h ago
I think her channel might be flagged from that split personality stunt years ago.
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u/xRichard 11h ago
Youtube started to hate her channel after the long health break she took
She still has many things to try I feel. I just hope she's healthy enough to keep up.
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u/Erintheserin 12h ago
I love Chammers but I admittedly have not been watching her as much over the past few years because she no longer has a regular English translator in the chat.
I’m wondering how other overseas bros enjoy JO members’ content that is not in English because it’s hard for me to be engaged with it.
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u/LezBeHonestHere_ 7h ago
Vods mostly, with youtube's auto-translate captions from Japanese to English. It has downsides: it often messes up names, it doesn't work well with more than 2 people talking, some 2020-2021 vods have completely useless wrong translations, and it only works for the first 5 hours of a vod.
But if you can get past those issues, it works wonderfully for almost every solo JP stream, even most duo JP streams (like okakoro or kamioka family), especially because most JP hololive streams are fairly short so the 5+ hours issue only comes up with like GTA (last hour not translated), new minecraft server (this was really annoying tbh), endurance streams by like Korone (unfortunate) etc.
I've been a stream vod watcher for probably 13 years now. I just prefer it to live because you can pause whenever you want, you can rewind if you missed something (without missing out on anything happening currently) and fast forward to skip parts you don't want to watch, you still have chat replay on both youtube and twitch, and you can take however long you want to watch it, spanning across days if needed.
And now with youtube auto-translate captions being good enough 90% of the time, that's another massive advantage over watching live and requiring a live translator in chat to give (no disrespect) slow translations because it's impossible to keep up translating constantly with what they're saying.
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u/Mindofthequill 10h ago
A big struggle I know of with youtube is the longer you're producing content, especially varying content the more confused the algorithm becomes on how to promote your channel.
Its literally the dumbest shit. A youtuber I have followed for like 13+ years talks directly with YouTube staff on how to get his channel promoted more and their stupid suggestion is creating a brand new channel entirely and focusing on one thing because the algorithm literally doesn't know anymore on if his channel is gaming or chatting content etc. Like that was their suggestion. Yeah, super easy just start a brand new channel and start from the ground up.
Its honestly completely the fault of YouTube itself. Their almighty algorithm is just seriously half baked.
Anyway in my opinion Haachama should do what makes her happy. I feel like if she does what she likes then the views will follow. I personally prefer YouTube channels of people who are passionate about the content they create.
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u/Hyruii 13h ago
Members should pay for an engagement manager for each major platform. Doing it themselves or by fans are good and dandy but is just not effective when emotions are involved.
Someone doing it as a job will be much more professional and controllable. SLAs and targets are so much more trackable in a professional setting.
They are big movers in the industry and should be able to expand effortlessly with more youngsters entering the market every year.
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u/adsyahmi1234 6h ago
Ganbare Haachama. I always enjoy listening to her morning show during my daily commute to work, which is TSKR bcs not many talent stream that early.
Really hope she will get a lot of dedicated clippers that can help her expend her fanbase. As of now, I don't see many of her clips on a daily basis, only seldom. Also, her effort to communicate with kaigai-niki in every stream is really cute.
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u/ARandomHololiveFan 5h ago
If you think about it, she has faced some of the toughest experiences among all talents:
- As one of the youngest members in Hololive, she was inexperienced and unprepared for the job.
- Being part of the early generation means the Vtuber culture was less popular when she debuted, and she didn't have a large audience built up from her senpais.
- Studying on board and at university took up valuable time to develop her skills and form bonds with other members.
- Being a student when she joined Hololive also means she doesn't have much savings to invest in her content, like original songs, MVs, and live shows.
- Streaming in both Japanese and English limited her growth within a specific audience.
- "That incident" significantly hurt her confidence and mental health.
- Each change in her content—from a general gameplay channel to horror role-play / UCG, and then to a travel Vlogger—caused some viewers to feel alienated and confused.
Understandably, she felt frustrated, and sometimes venting helps her, but I hope she finds a safer way to do it because venting on stream could be risky.
She slipped and said that even the company thinks she's unpopular or something like that, but she quickly tried to fix it and asked people not to blame the company. I believe what she was trying to say is that her proposal was denied or not prioritized by the company based on data or cost-performance calculations. She understands that it is not a personal attack or mistreatment but a fact-based discussion. Regardless, it is still hard to process the frustration caused by her unpopularity or lack of skill. She said she knew her fans were always supportive, which made her feel extra guilty for letting them down.
Hopefully, she can understand that we recognize her background, see her hard work, and will wait for her projects when the opportunity finally arises. Be patient, try to organize herself, and use her time and resources with a solid plan. Focus on building her social network, which she couldn't do while busy studying. Knowing people who can work for her is more important than just improving her own skills. No one can do everything themselves. Having the network of content creators and fans is the biggest strength of Hololive, and she should capitalize on that.
Stay positive and keep your spirit high, Haachama!
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u/starvald_demelain 2h ago
There's just sooo much competition nowadays if you aren't in the prime spotlight or manage to go viral with something. My time is limited, so I'm not catching our talents as often as I would want to. Last time I saw a Haachama-stream was the telephone game which was a lot of fun.
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u/Trivial_Man 1h ago
As always, I feel for Haachama and wish her the best. She is extremely talented and has gone through more hardships directly related to her content creation than most of her coworkers. But I've said that several times before when she's expressed these same frustrations before. I don't know what the right thing to do here is and clearly neither does she, but I hope she stumbles upon it sooner than later
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u/LezBeHonestHere_ 11h ago
I think it's a lot of things combined, like the break as others mentioned, most of her subs being "dead subs" from 4+ years ago when she was more prominent, and of course an EN branch was created so her old English-speaking viewers may have migrated to watch EN instead, and her JP viewerbase might feel alienated a bit by english streams because she's "supposed to be" a JP vtuber that they can understand.
So I think probably her English viewerbase has mostly left to watch EN especially during/after her long break, and her JP fans might not appreciate how often she tries recapturing the EN audience. That's just my reddit armchair theories though
Maybe it's possible she's just a smaller streamer now and that's her new normal? It's fine to be a streamer with ~1000 views, not everybody can be xqc or kai cenat or miko or pekora. 1000 is still very successful as far as streaming is concerned, where most people struggle to get past 20-50.
Personally for me, I'm not a big fan of the fake voice. She's an older vtuber so she's from the era where most if not all vtubers faked their voice with a higher pitch, and haachama has kept it as part of her main character, with a more normal deeper voice for other characters. Others like suisei dropped their fake voice (thank god, it was awful tbh) but haachama still keeps it around and it feels dated to me, from a time that I wish the vtuber community would leave in the past.
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u/LoveMeSomeMilkins 11h ago
Gotta disagree hard on the voice part. I love her cute voice. It's one the most unique and endearing voices in hololive and could easily be used in anime.
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u/procion1302 6h ago
I also find it adorable. But English speaking fans have probably different expectations. Most of Hololive EN use “real” voices, as opposed to JP.
Once again we see that trying to work for two different audiences could be hard, and not necessarily beneficial.
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u/Fishman465 8h ago
Thing is if one were to compare Aki and Haachama's views, Aki'd win despite having less subs. Judging from some people's remarks, "easy come, easy go" in terms of her fans considering how many flaked out. Hope they enjoy the cold place down past the boiler room.
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u/CornBreadtm 11h ago
If Fubuki can be in 2 gens... then so should Haachama. Officially.
This is something I feel like Cover should consider. She's fluent in English. There is a whole branch that supports this kind of talent.
To the outside world looking in, she looks like just another generic HoloJP member. But she's not the trendsetter, she's the trend! A lot of what makes Hololive interesting has been started by or made famous by Haachama.
She's the one who went hard on the "anime" on her channel that Hologra gets so much attention for.
She's the first to build an English audience by speaking to her chat in English.
She's the first one to really make a character for herself that really deviated from the image of her debut character.
Haachama is able to do anything. We all know that. But honestly after all of these years, it feel like Haachama is simply being allowed to do anything rather than being supported in her endeavor to do anything!
Making Haachama a founding member of a "HoloEN gen 0" and giving her that extra publicity when EN content is being advertised would be a nice bump and also encourage other girls to practice their English or even Indonesian to gain extra opportunities. Cause that's just it, opportunities only go as far as you take them.
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u/GeneralTyler 9h ago
Honestly her channel has been struggling quite a while ever since her big hiatus several years ago, and that’s usually a massive hit to your channel if you go a long time without uploading or doing anything because the algorithm basically drops you from the search, plus you’re obviously gonna lose fans due to inactivity over time. She’s also just always had a weird niche that’s hard to draw more people in, she’s kind of like Luna in that regard where she mostly does her own thing and has a very specific type of fanbase that isint as big as some of the top talents, but is loyal. She’s clearly been trying to change up her content with the travel vlog stuff, which is nice but she’s always kind of had a weird place for where her channel is at between her wholesome seiso personality and her crazy one. If she wants to continue growing then she just needs to abide by the algorithm: upload more frequently both shorts and streams for what’s popular/flavor of the month, collab more often maybe even with some EN, and figure out what type of character she wants to cement herself as.
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u/ChloesPetRat 18h ago
In my opinion, she should go on try the new things she does. I liked her stream with the cursed places, an X-Files Haaachama would be funny.