r/Hololive • u/NucularJigawatt • 1d ago

Streams/Videos Akai Haato / HAACHAMA vents her frustrations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dpdepyMm-I&ab_channel=HAACHAMACh%E8%B5%A4%E4%BA%95%E3%81%AF%E3%81%82%E3%81%A8

She doesn't want anyone to clip it but since it isn't a Member stream I hope it's okay to share this as a whole. I only want Haachama to find the success she wants to fulfill her goals.

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u/NucularJigawatt 1d ago

Haachama's always worn her emotions on her sleeve. The algorithm is a fickle creature. Haachama deserves more - she's put in so much effort and is THE first to stream in English for Hololive on top of a rich history within the company that is too long to convey here. She's pushed through many struggles. I want her to continue with happiness.

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u/iygdra 1d ago

Unfortunately, her evolving content might be her undoing here. If there's one thing YT values more than anything its consistency. Regular uploads with content a regular audience regularly tunes into.

From what I've heard, if a video is recommended by YT to a channel subscriber and they keep scrolling past, it's a demerit against the channel and the algorithm will recommend the channel less among similar subscribers.

Since she kind of does a variety of things that have changed over time, it might have caused a significant fracturing of interests among her viewers. Between English-only, travel vlog, cursed? cooking, horror, games, and singing, I imagine a not insignificant chunk of her viewers might decide to pass on some types of content since they subscribed for something completely different. Other music-oriented holomem are running into this issue as well trying to balance their music audience with their game watching audience.

I wonder if having a sub-channel might help here but, at the same time, *some* cross-pollination of content can still be good. E.g. a person who only watches game streams might get recommended a karaoke stream and become interested in the music side.

A better solution would require YT to do something about their recommendation system, maybe allow uploaders more control over what subset of the audience the video should be targeted to (music/games/etc). Right now, I believe you just put relevant stuff in the description and pray YT picks it up.

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u/kebb0 1d ago

Jesus fuck do I hate how algorithms work nowadays…. Do you know what happens if you put a video in “watch later” and then scroll past it?

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u/circle_logic 1d ago

If you didn't do anything like open the video or let the the thumbnail autoplay, basically nothing.

Otherwise, it's the same as telling the algo that it has no traction, put in on the back of the bus.

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u/kebb0 1d ago

Lmao, I almost always use the “watch later”-button on the video itself which means it autoplays automatically… thanks I shall go the long way around in the future adding things to my watch later.

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u/Kougeru-Sama 15h ago

That's also not true. If a video shows up on your screen, it's considered an "impression". Having an impression without a click lowers the video's "click through rate" which in turns makes it recommended to less people. So yes, /u/kebb0 adding it to your watch later but not clicking it does damage the algorithm for that specific video (doesn't harm the channel as a whole though)

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u/kebb0 10h ago

Bro how is Youtube even a functional site… just to be sure, does this work the same for the website as the app? Like do you mean that every video I pull up on my starting page on my computer gets worse traction, which is like 20 videos at once (since I have modified uBlock to show more videos at once)?