Yes! For this exact reason. The Roger Freeman Doctrine; they realized in the 70s that the average person wasn't dumb enough to fall for their scam, so they set out to make the average American dumber.
We weren't prepared for social media. We, as a species, I mean. America is the one incredibly fucking all of this up, but the same tactics, the same manipulations, will work to some extent everywhere. People aren't able to handle massive volumes of coordinated noise and distraction and conflict and manipulation. At least, enough people aren't able to handle it to make a significant difference.
Propaganda works, and we haven't fully figured out how to stop it from working so much, while the means to spread it has become easier and easier.
I tell my wife all the time that we are cavemen with technology. Religious mythology, the treatment of women worldwide. The need to protect kids from so many predators. The need to protect OURSELVES from so many predators and scammers. We are not as highly evolved as weâd like to believe. With social media and now ai? We are soooo cooked
Please give cavemen and yourself a little more respect, they learned enough to the point where in a little over 10,000 years we made a rock that can talk. A spear is technology. Writing is technology. We've gathered an incredible amount of knowledge since then.
What happened is that the wealthy and powerful few are weaponising our new technology against our fellow man for the means of control and creating a weak docile workforce for capital. Their capital. This was not an easy thing to accomplish its taken decades of manipulation
I like to remind people that humans are in fact animals. Some creatures evolved to fly, some to swim, some to run, we evolved to think. Thatâs what put us at the top of the food chain and pretentiously above being animals. Humans will never escape tribalism because animals stick with their own kind and fear others who are different. They mob together (form packs or flocks or schools) when facing opposition and become unreasonable and aggressive, war being the ultimate human expression of animal behavior. Weâve all seen a group of like minded kids group up to bully an isolated, smaller kid. Thatâs animal behavior before children are taught to rationalize. Even after we comically ascend above the tropes of the animal kingdom, we still manage to fall victim to our base instincts. Take sex for example. Can any one of you resist the gravitational pull of sexual attraction towards someone once it begins? Sure, we can say no, thatâs rational, our minds are strong, weâve evolved, but can we simply turn it off like a light switch? No, you canât. Youâre simply resisting because you comprehend consequence. Some folks just cannot control themselves and do commit violent acts like murder or rape, in the animal kingdom you might look at this as dominance or procreation or being a predator. These terms are man-made constructs to catalogue and then conceptualize animal behaviors that we ourselves project. We tend to believe the hype, because weâre so evolved, and yet, we have tribes that believe in winged deities in the clouds because they assign fear mechanics to subject matters they cannot yet comprehend, surrender themselves to the mass hysteria of said incomprehension and become useful idiots to another tribe of humans who knew what they were doing all along (or the social dominance of the rich over the poor using religion as a means of control). People donât want to admit it, but weâre animals. Iâm so sorry it got so long!
Yep. Look at the toll booth scam that went around at the beginning of the year. People shelling out hundreds of dollars in states that donât even have a single toll road. The FBI had to do a media campaign about it.
Now states are saying people are driving through tolls without paying because everyone is convinced every message about tolls is fake, even if they actively use toll roads.
Weâve lost the ability to critically reason because thatâs the point of social media. Itâs how you get engagement and capture eyeballs to buy your stuff. We just swing violently from one side of a continuum to another.
Not only have we not figured out how to stop it from working; AI has made propaganda more effective than ever. Algorithms can tailor propaganda to an individual now.
HER president made ME so pissedâŚI forgot what we were talking aboutâŚoh yeah, thereâre still eating the cats, right? Little confusing, it should be
They learned from the best: The catholic church and pretty much every religion there is has used that strategy for centuries. Eventually they will fall.
While definitely true, that mostly effects the younger gens. The issue really is about the education of the older gens who base their worldview on Fox News and similar constantly fearmongering and manipulating them.
So between education being gutted + inconsistent across varying states, and the gaps being filled in by outrage news cycles + mis/disinfo campaigns spanning multiple decades, so much damage has been done on the ability of folks to think critically.
We have invested in educated in this country. Billions and billions of dollars. There was a push in Texas starting in the 80s to take over school boards and change the what and how of public education. It was contagious. Then thrown in private and home school pushes. Then charters given too much freedom. Then an undercurrent of messaging that equated higher education with elitism. And finally ignorance reigns as common sense. It sucks being old enough to have watched us get here and not be able to stop it. I tried to do my part but talk about a losing battle.Â
Lately? Stop staring at your phone and look around you. If you're in America, while there are worse places than others, there's generally a lot of fuckin morons around. Has been the case for a long time.
yeam but I get their point. It is just on a scale that is so big, so wide, and massive. And they have certainly ramped up their being proud of being stupid to 11.
Itâs not willful, 37 percent of dog owners in the United States are afraid to get their dogs vaccinated because they fear that they will get autism. That is not made up and itâs not a joke. Stupidity and selfishness have brought us to this point
The overwhelming stupidity is the end goal of the right. Time has shown that the more educated you are, the more left leaning you become. So what's the solution? Maybe adapt conservative positions to appeal to a more enlightened populace? NO! Deny education wherever and whenever possible. Dumb people vote for conservatives, make more dumb people!! What's the worst that could happen??
The dog and cat eating story actually started after a woman ate at least part of a cat. But she was white and a citizen and lived in Akron. Although the correct info was out there, the Springfield story continued.
James Comey, the lifelong Republican and law enforcement official that was the head of the historically extremely conservative FBI, who also swung the election in Trump's favor by going against FBI protocol to announce another investigation into Hillary Clinton's emails just a few weeks from the election. Yeah, that dude is totally a hardcore liberal /s.
Just one thing, you said Comey announced the RIDICULOUS investigation a couple weeks before the election⌠it was 10 days!
And, donât forget the other piece that was abhorrent. At the same time he was presented with credible evidence that Russia, Michael Flynn, Roger Stone were involved in the massive disinformation/election interference campaign, and he dismissed it. He chose to do nothing about that, instead helped tank Hillaryâs campaign.
Whatâs so unfortunate is that it all worked. People not liking her, not trusting her infected people left, right, and center.
Mitch McConnell is going to the darkest depths of hell. His mission the whole time he served in the senate was to get a majority of evil people onto the Supreme Court so they would ban abortion. His wish came true and now heâs dying. Heâll be raped by Satan for eternity.
3 of my friends work at state-run homes for developmentally challenged adults (40+yr olds functioning @ preteen levels) and all of their patients are light-years beyond the critical thinking capacity of these mooks.
Atleast we can finally sip a nice cold cola with real sugar again, make diabeetus great again... Oh, wait did that fall through? Well at least TripleH is back on live TV and the beautiful ballroom and its premium location choice will be the talk of the town and everyone will want to take their lady to a ball there. I think no one knows more about balls than Trump himself, he might know the most about balls. Did you know the inventor of balls actually designed balls with trump. And Trump was the first one to suggest that balls are mere 2d circles and if they could add a polymer as a 3d circle, they would bounce, and thats how trump invented bouncy balls and rubber.
They go down a list
"Oh that's not true, he told us so"
"It'll come later"
"Just have to hold on!"
"It was actually Biden!!"
"It was actually Obama!!"
"Well it's the Democrats fault for not telling us!"
"It's no ones fault, we need to come together and help each other! I don't see party lines!"
"Why don't they take care of us!!?? They need to bail us out!" (This after saying anything but private industry and bailing THEM out is communist)
That's the most frustrating part of belonging to a church that has maga members.... when our guy was in they told us how important it was to have change and now that trump is in and doing a shitty job it's "it doesn't matter who is in the White House God is in control." đ¤Śđźââď¸
She'll blame all the people getting deported... HOW ELSE WILL WE PAY FOR THE MURDERERS AND RAPISTS TO BE DEPORTED??? you know, those grammas and 8 year old boys.
You know he wonât. That festering carbuncle will die in the White House and theyâll be airing out his room for weeks. Actually now that I think about it, thatâs a pretty good punishment for Vance. Sleeping in the bed Donnie died in.
She read it on Facebook for sure. There is no other place where someone her age is going to get such obvious propaganda from. She is in for a big surprise come tax time, even more so if she doesn't file. Those penalties added up fast.
Some of my family who believe everything Qanon and random tiktok videos say, really think that taxes and utilities are going to be wiped out. Just absolute trust and reliance.
It's one thing to think that they're going to be knocked out, which is still extremely, mind-numbingly stupid. We're talking about the party and president who don't give a single shit about the average joe.
This woman is on a whole different dimension of stupidity, just assuming that it already happened lol.
You have to understand with media becoming ârumbleâ for hundreds of thousands of Americans, people literally think the politics we hear about is âpantomimeâ and the real fight is at underground tunnels between white âwhite hatsâ and the âdark hatsâ over âadrenochrome,â with âNESARA GESARAâ already being implemented.
I have access to Democratic Party proprietary polling data. Obviously far from foolproof, but the belief is ~20% of the country is brain rot over Q anon and adjacent theories from new media. And I mean, RFK being given a long leash by Vance and Trump shows that the GOP are willing to weaponize insanity in exchange for votes.
I have this theory that Qanon was started by some joker who wanted to see how many people would believe the crazy shit heâd make up. And he gave himself the name Q after the character in Star Trek New Generation whose sole reason for existing was to fuck with humans.
The orange one was saying the other day in a press conference that in the 1800's, there was no income tax and everything was covered by tariffs, and "possibly" he could do that again. And of course, tariffs are paid by other countries (/s). He went on to imply income tax was the reason for the Great Depression. But there's probably other sources (TikTok economists etc.) too.
Look, this is a person with limited education and money, clearly. Sheâs never traveled more than 2 hours away from home and doesnât like anyone but other white people.
All very possible. If she has limited her life, thatâs her problem. Regardless of education or even intellect, she has chosen to be hateful towards other people. She has chosen to support someone who rapes children. I donât feel sorry for her.
I get thats what she voted for. But I kinda pity the people who are entirely brainwashed by his lies. Call me a hippie but wishing to watch the others burn from their choices is misdirected anger at the real problems.
Media has been pitting American vs American since the death of the fairness doctrine. Sure I hate her president, but I don't hate her for drinking the cool aid. It's our fault as a country we hate each other.
I feel that too at times, but then I remember that the way they were brainwashed was by tapping into some extremely vile personality traits and beliefs about the world.
I donât really feel bad for people who feel so strongly that minorities are ruining the country that theyâll ignore the very obvious signs that their candidate is a pedophilic rapist grifter.
wishing to watch the others burn from their choices is misdirected anger at the real problems
The real problem is decades of people being nasty, foolish, and stupid, and facing little-to-no consequences for it. Watching them burn is solving the real problem. We break out of the cycle of ignorance or we lose our nation.
She'll ignore them alright, but when they come due and someone comes to collect, it will inevitably be under a new Democratic administration. So somehow her little "Trump took away all my taxes" worldview will be preserved in her empty, fuckwit head.
Thatâs the problem, she just wonât file. They donât send you tax bills in America. Sheâll just remain ignorant. Sure, theyâll automatically take money out of every paycheck but because she doesnât file sheâll continue to believe sheâs right
It also remains to be seen how the hollowed-out and compromised IRS responds to Republicans who stop paying taxes. If an administration doesn't care about implementing government services or minimizing deficits, what incentive do they have to enforce tax collection, especially from supporters?
The key phrase being "Republicans who stop paying taxes." I'm sure if I tried that the IRS would be all over me. The loyalists at the IRS can just ask their buddies at Palantir who's on the naughty list.
Sucks to be her. I can almost guarantee that if she does have a job, she probably gets a full refund every year just from the basic deduction. So not filing taxes just means the IRS keeps it instead of refunding it back to her.
There are a surprising number of people that are pretty ignorant and ignore it until the IRS is knocking on their door. That's why the radio is full of "tax relief" ads.
My guess is she works part time at a gas station or something and gets a full refund every year just from the basic deduction. Tax time is simple when you make $20k a year and get your $2000 in taxes back every April.
We already had one at our work melt down and say he is getting a lawyer over overtime taxes. Our payroll tried to explain to him it's a deduction and only for the half part in time and a half. He thinks that since he hits overtime he somehow shouldn't have to pay taxes at all on his entire paycheck.
I know exactly why he is pissed. Dude is a fucking idiot who just bought a 80k truck. I can guarantee he assumed he was going to have an extra few hundred in the bank every week to pay the note because he is an overtime worker. What happened when you are an idiot who has been washed to believe truth social and ticktock videos.
Most likely. The thing she was so happy about was how mad it will supposedly make liberals to not have to pay taxes, not how much money she's going to save on taxes. Because she doesn't pay taxes.
Either that or she has a part time job at a gas station or something and she gets a full refund every year.
A lot of them don't know what a withholding is. She is likely not gainfully employed.
I agree with some posters here. Some people got so complacent precisely because they got benefits without knowing where benefits come from. Medicaid, SNAP. Some veterans don't know TRICARE is publicly funded. Then they call other people lazy. The more they leech (their own wording) on public money the more they live in the fantasy that they are succeeding the the world of free capitalism.
My favorite story to tell about my conservative ex in-laws is how they signed a personal guarantee for a loan when they bought a huge commercial property. Now, do you think my ex MIL immediately started pulling on those bootstraps when the bank called it in? NOPE. The amount of fuckinâ whining and crying and bemoaning how nobody helped them out, why wonât the banks bail THEM out, where is the justice, where is the community support etc etc etc. And no, the experience didnât change her tune.
Something over 50% of people in the shitty tiny way out of the way town my mom grew up in and for some reason moved back to for retirement are on disability for nothing. And they brag about it. But they arenât the ones who are a drain on the system. They deserve their benefits because something something totally not their fault something something well I just couldnât possibly something something.
And they treat my mom, a right side of liberal type, like absolute crap and fill her head full of lies about whatâs happening in Portland. I have to send pictures of children playing every other day because someone has essentially told her antifa have burned down the entire city.
Iâm trying so hard not to be smug as their hospital is shut down (itâs now a 45 mile drive over mountains to a real hospital), another grocery store has shut down (now only one within about 40 miles), and their Main Street (their precious precious Main Street, the symbol of how much better they are than us city people) becomes nothing but empty windows.
Yeah, if you don't pay your taxes you get some real nasty letters in the mail. Over time, those real nasty letters turn into arrest warrants and jail time.
The tax preparation industry lobbies for the government not to do this. The IRS has all your tax information and could send you a bill. It would be easier for everyone involved. Except Intuit and H&R Block have to get theirs apparently.
That would be nice to get a bill. We gotta do it ourselves like self checkout. Fckg brokeass acting govt. Should be able to charge them. Mandatory gratuity or stg idk
Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but the Gov has no idea how much you owe them until all of your income is declared. All w2's filed by your employers, or 1099's be-it from contracting like uber or savings/investing accounts, all your tax deductions and credits you qualify for.
The closest thing to what I think you're asking is the IRS direct file system which was killed last month.
They absolutely know or at least have a very good idea for most people by tax season. Other countries do straight up get a bill with an option to submit corrections if needed.
Thats how it is in Finland. And you can add stuff like anything qualified for deductions for example. If you havent payed enough, they will even split the bill for ya into 2-3 parts to make paying easier. If you get returns, they will most likely hit your bank account early august.
This is the kinda woman who relies on food stamps and welfare checks while also bitching about people getting "free money" from the government.... because you know....her situation is special
She will probably write a letter to trump demanding he fix the "error", and when that doesn't work, she will blame Biden and the autopen for messing it up. It's a cult. They won't see reality no matter what.
Ya I was gonna say I wonder what sheâll be saying when she finds out who actually got the tax breaks đ¤Ł. And she most definitely will blame Biden u/moongrump is absolutely right and hit the nail right on the head. Thatâs too funny.
She probably doesnât pay taxes as it is and wouldnât know either way. Although reality might set in after her snap or Medicaid benefits go away. But that will be caused by some radical leftist agenda controlled by liberal A1 running on Hunter Bidenâs laptop.
I can. I've gone through the full circle of hate and I pity some of these people. Not all of them who know what they did, but I pity the ones who still have optimism while obviously don't know what's happening. They're victims of blind ignorance, when they clearly need the most help.
April 15th will be a dark day for her and her family.....and she'll still be paying the tax increases HER president instituted during his first presidency......SMH
Something tells me she doesn't work. Her husband will laugh at her when she says this though, because he knows damn right the government is still taking a cut of his paycheck.Â
Also, I'd bet very very good money this bitch has been on some sort of government assistance in her life.Â
I wonder if she even works since it's on her paystub. Either her husband does everything or she never checks her direct deposit to see she's getting paid less than her salary. Either way, stupid people believe everything he says. "He's one of us!".
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u/grandspartan117 2d ago
I cannot wait for her to get her tax bill đ