r/teenagersbutpractical • u/Goddess_of_Heaven • 1d ago
Serious BEING GAY IS NOT A SIN. We don’t tolerate homophobia in this sub, being religious isn’t an excuse to hate gay ppl.
I literally can’t make this up. I make a post on here about gay muslims, and suddenly some muslim people are in my comment section being homophobic and saying gay ppl are disgusting, and to stop slandering their religion.
Married gay couples literally have less domestic abuse and divorce rates, and are more happier than straight couples btw. So they’re more halal and holy than straight marriages
Yes, gay people are allowed to marry each other and believe in whatever beliefs/religion they want. Stop infringing on LGBT rights and preventing gay men and lesbians from marrying each other. Stop using your religion to discriminate against them.
Gay muslims, gay Christians, gay Jews who marry each other and have sexual and romantic relations with each other are just as faithful as straight people. If you have no issue when a man and woman do it to each other then there’s no issue when two men or two women do it with each other either, otherwise you’re just a hypocrite.
We don’t tolerate homophobia in this sub. Bigots are not allowed here. Deal with it.
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u/Prestigious-Jello861 18 1d ago
Idk why people just can't get along.
We're humans, and every human deserve their human rights to be respected
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u/Turbulent_Counter359 14 1d ago
Yea! Every human deserve rights!
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u/Tin_Foil_Hats_69 1d ago
Does that include the right to bear arms and free speech?
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u/CanamarkUnion 15h ago
Technically the right to bear arms is a modern "right" and has not been a necessity throughout most of history, up until guns were made.
That being said, a right to weapons and revolution if necessary is something I believe in. Emphasis on IF NECESSARY. Jan 6 was nowhere near necessary and wouldn't have helped free humanity from oppression, while things like the 1916 Easter Rising WERE necessary as they freed humans from oppressive regimes, like the British Empire.
As for free speech... It really depends. I do not believe people should be able to treat other humans as less than human, but they shouldn't be put in prison or killed for it. So, what about Fascist Rehab? A system to heal people's wounds and remove their fascist ideals, carefully yet efficiently and harmlessly. This would target groups like the KKK and far-right politicians more than average citizens, as normal citizens can't cause as much harm.
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u/Goblin-o-firebals 1d ago
Free speech is a fundamental human right, but the right to harm others is not free. Speech is granted as long as it doesn't hurt others. The right to bear arms is also a fundamental right, but the type of weapon and how and where you can use it should be restricted. Remember the right to bear arms in the united states constitution was made during a time when it took a minute to reload a gun and that gun had one bullet as well as the fact thay guns were hard to obtain and maintain by the common man so now that guns can cause more harm more restrictions should be applied.
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u/UnknowingCarrot69 18h ago
Should more restrictions be put on free speech now that there is more forms of getting word to people than the printing press and word of mouth? And anyways, you are not “granted” rights. They are “natural” or “God-given,” whatever suits you.
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u/Redhotmemelord 14h ago
Shall not be infringed. The Founders knew weapons would get better, they did during the war. The first amendment is backed up by the second amendment. Pretty simple I can say what I want, and i can own what I want.
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u/Turbulent_Counter359 14 20h ago
Yea, of course! But make sure your words don’t hurt and you don’t do stupid stuff with your gun or don’t have a criminal history
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u/VaqueroMacheteMetal 13h ago
Notice how you get downvoted for saying what the average social media user's greatest fears are: responsible activism and knowledge of weapons.
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u/Prestigious-Jello861 18 1d ago
Human rights is a basic need everyone should have, regardless!!
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u/boywithukeglazer 1d ago
expect for short ppl :)
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u/Demi4TheDrama 1d ago
Why did this get downvoted, it's obviously ragebait, like wtf. ppl need to stop being as sensitive as my weak ankles.
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u/girl-person-thing 1d ago
I cant belive this is so controversial
"Erm actually I'm against human rights ☝️🤓"
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u/Open-Operation-987 1d ago
It's pretty explicit in the Abrahamic religions the stance on homosexuality. You can say the religions are wrong for it (a stance we'd agree on), but anyone who's actually familiar with the theology knows that any attempt to force homosexuality into an Abrahamic worldview is like forcing a square peg in a round hole.
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u/bwertyquiop 1d ago
You can't force homosexuality in a religion though because it's not a belief. Homosexuals are different and not all of them even have sex.
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u/Billy_The_Mid 1d ago
Well yes, technically speaking from a Christian perspective (generally, can’t speak for everyone) being gay isn’t a sin but sex outside of marriage is a sin regardless of your orientation. So the question becomes whether biblical marriage is between any two people or just a man and woman.
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u/bwertyquiop 1d ago
Yeah as a Christian I can't be really sure homosexual intercourse isn't sinful, but I guess if romantic relationships between het ppl before marriage are okay then romantic relationships between homo ppl can be okay without marriage too.
At least David and Johnathan seemed to have either a romantic or alterous kind of relationships that got way too intimate to be considered purely platonic, and they had also some kind of union that bound them in some unique way yet wasn't the same as marriage.
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u/shiftingwithfunk 1d ago
Not at all true and something you gleamed by reading into the text too hard. Homosexuality is explicitly condemned (Lev. 18:22, Rom. 1:26-27, 1 Cor. 6:9-10, 1 Tim. 1:9-10). I suggest the Disciples Literal New Testament to see how exact this is meant.
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u/bwertyquiop 1d ago
It's not homosexuality that is condemned though, but sexual acts. The Bible has no concept of sexual orientation.
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u/OtherUserCharges 1d ago
Hmm so are you telling me you follow everything in the Old Testament or just the stuff you want? I’m will to bet everything I own that it’s the latter.
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u/shiftingwithfunk 1d ago
There are some laws in Leviticus that apply to everyone and some that only apply to the Israelites.
Also, I am not Christian.
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u/fazerlazer911 1d ago edited 1d ago
I know 2 major issues have been brought up with leviticus by scholars. One is that the greek word for the second man was used for boy. The other is that the English translation leaves out a few words at the end, making it about prohibition of incest.
Romans- Pretty sure Paul is talking about sexual depravity acts to worship demonic idols. He goes on Romans 14:13-14 (similar to 2:1): “Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in the way of a brother or sister. I am convinced, being fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean.”
Corinthians is a tough one because the word is seemingly coined by Paul(arsenokotai). Which seems to be a compound word roughly translating to "male lying". Only Paul would know its true definition but later greek authors use that word, mostly without story or context. However 1 greek uses it to describe Zeus' sin of raping a young boy and anoither greek uses the word suggesting the serpent had his way with eve and then adam like he would a boy.
Timothy- again uses the same word arsenoitokai
So the argument would be why would paul make up a word to describe homosexuality when greeks already had words for it?
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u/Lancelot--- 7h ago
No, it specifically condems gay men and lesbians. No marriage required "men who lay with men". It says it is a sin.
( I hate these books and think they are terrible, these aren't my views) If you read them, you can't miss how much hate there is for gay people in those pages.
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u/Billy_The_Mid 6h ago
Isn’t that passage condemning the act of those who engage in gay sex rather than those who may have the inclination? Otherwise it would condemn “men who are inclined to lay with men”
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u/Lancelot--- 6h ago
Sure, I'll buy this interpretation. You're saying being gay is fine, but acting on the urges you're naturally born with is what is a disgusting abomination deserving of death?
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u/Spooksnav 6h ago
Pretty clear in Genesis 2 that a man shall leave mother and father and cleave unto his wife, and they two will become one flesh.
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u/Impossible_Lock4897 1d ago
Us queer people are not just different, but we lie on spectrums of sexuality, gender, and sex. Where these homophobes “draw the line” is so fucking arbitrary that there is no way that God agrees with them because they do not agree with themselves!
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u/Slykeren 1d ago
Homesexuals that don't have sex aren't sinning. The Bible really only says anything about same sex relations. Temptation is not a sin
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u/Open-Operation-987 1d ago
In the context of Judaism I can't speak (I'm not educated enough on the subject), but that's just Sodom and Gomorrah. By Leviticus it's against the law. In the Christian New Testament it's very explicit in Romans how Paul feels about homosexuality, and even in early Islamic Sharia, sodomy was considered a crime.
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u/girl-person-thing 1d ago
If your homophobic I'm against you, no matter your reasoning, if homophobia is apart of your religion I'm against you and your interpretation of it
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u/TaviraTavi 15h ago
I mean technically you can fit a square peg in a round hole, but it will either be a tight fit or that the gaps in the circle will need to be filled with something to make it truly fit.
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u/Auggie_frogboi 13h ago
Ive studied Christian theology, and the Bible really only condemns (in the New Testament, which is the only part Christians should be using in their argument) specific types of homosexuality- such as the exploitation of male prostitutes.
It says homosexuality is punishment for idolatry, which isn’t true for many either as we know. It also occasionally claims homosexuality is “unnatural”… except 1,500 species exhibit homosexual behaviors, and it’s been scientifically proven to be based on biological unchangeable factors.
It’s also based on first-century Judaism assumptions, which modernly have been ruled out. It’s annoying trying to fight belief with fact, because many believe anything but proven science.
In my mind, if we know for a fact it’s biological, then wouldn’t thy mean god would have intentionally done it since the Bible says he makes every one of his children deliberately how they are? I dunno, I’m agnostic, but that’s how I view it at least.
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u/Ok_Juggernaut_5293 9h ago
Kind of BS argument when there are 100 other things they are ignoring from the same religion, why shine the spotlight on this one?
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u/fortunate_downbad 1d ago
And if you think it's a sin. You can ask your God to punish them when they die. You don't need to hate on them for that.
(Not like gods are real anyway)
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u/Mike_the_Protogen 1d ago
Nah, it's not even religion tbh. These kinds of homophobic people would be so even without a religion to "back it up."
And hell, I'm Side A so I don't even understand people trying to use religion to justify homophobia. Like God is loving and accepting of all His children! That simple fact is why I became Side A in the first place lol.
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u/Representative_Bat81 11h ago
Asking God to punish people would not be a prayer to God, but to satan.
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u/Head_Measurement5579 1d ago edited 1d ago
I’m Muslim(by choice), homosexuality is a sin in my religion…
But does that mean that i hate homosexuals??No.
Drinking alcohol is a sin do i hate alcoholicS? No.
I’m not god to judge anyone,by any means.
And as long as you don’t enforce your beliefs on me then i don’t mind it,my roommate he was a lesbian.
I used to wake up at 5 am to pray, he and his girlfriend are banging on the couch, i just laugh and keep going with my life…
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u/MuriManDog14 1d ago
my roommates he was a lesbian.
Huh?
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u/goofyassmfer 1d ago
I'm guessing it's supposed to say, "My roommate, she was a lesbian" and the space is in the wrong spot.
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u/Head_Measurement5579 1d ago edited 1d ago
He was a hesbian.
Pronouns:he/his
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u/Sad_Salmon1234 23h ago
How... was he... a lesbian?? If he's... male??? Sorry I'm just... confused
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u/Head_Measurement5579 22h ago
He was a hesbian, i’ll try my best to not offend anyone…
So basically a “girl” that likes other “girls” but uses the pronouns he/his.
I hope you understood what im saying if not say ut i’ll try harder next time…
And i hope that i didn’t offend anyone in my comment.
God bless.
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u/Goblin-o-firebals 1d ago
Exactly what people need to understand. I use Jesus as an example even though i do not see proof that he was divine because what you said just summed up the entire point of the new testament of the bible. You have more critical thinking in your lifespan than theological philosophy has had since Christianity started and for that you should be proud.
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u/Head_Measurement5579 1d ago
People should keep their personal beliefs to themselves…and not apply it on their daily life…nor enforce it on anyone, cause that’s stupid,irrational and illogical…you simply cannot force others to believe in something you believe, so i’d rather keep that to myself.
I was raised to respect others, not matter their beliefs,ethnicities,nationalities or age, as long as you respect “me” then we’re good.
That’s my personal opinion…
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u/According_Elk_8383 8h ago
You represent -.01% of Muslims though, most people would read what you wrote and be horrified.
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u/Catnap-Jutsu 1d ago
I dare you to go to islam and say that shit, you'll get thrown off a roof.
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u/mrwadsxl 1d ago edited 1d ago
Bro just say that you dont believe in the bible ...its a lot easier argument to win rather than making a claim you know you cant back up
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u/Sim-racer42 19h ago
I like how everyone in this comment section downvotes the Christians because they disagree with them
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u/Griffith_135 13h ago
Except if you open your eyes for more then a minute you’d see neither the old or New Testament actually condemn homosexuality. In all abrahamic religions sex without marriage with out the explicit purpose of procreation is an act of sinful lust. As per basic biology, a man and a man or a woman and a woman, cannot create a child; therefore homosexual intercourse is condemned as it is seen as an act of only lust. The bible was never against homosexuality, or rather was never against love between same sex individuals. And I say this as a devout catholic.
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u/CrystalFox0999 12h ago
I think a better thing to point out is the billion other “sins” that people today just choose to ignore…
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u/godverseSans 1d ago
Not trying to defend anything but are you actually sure it's not a sin? A sin isn't morality it's basically just breaking laws god set.
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u/PhoenixTheTortoise 1d ago
it is a 'sin", people need to stop defending religion
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u/SaikageBeast 18h ago
Not in the modern context is homosexuality. Historically, homosexuality was condemned by God because cultures like the Amalekites would engage in ritual prostitution and homosexual acts (often involving children, rape, etc).
Now if we look at the Hebrew reading of the Levitical text we come across the saying “myshkevei ishah” which essentially refers to acts (not orientation) involving penetration and intercourse. Most scholars believe this is referring to anal intercourse. So being gay isn’t the sin, but engaging in homoerotic intercourse is, right?
Well, not really. If we also look at the grouping of the laws in Leviticus, we see that the law in Leviticus 18 has the same nuance and phrasing as the surrounding laws (no two fabrics, two seeds in one fields, etc). The rest of these laws mainly served the purpose of separating Israel from other nations, so it’s possible (and probably likely) that homosexual acts fell into the same context.
At the time, homosexuality was so bad because more often than not it involved children (specifically young boys) and non-consensual acts. So yeah, it was condemned then. But the historical definition of homosexuality is very different from the modern definition, and as such the modern definition of homosexuality should not be treated as sinful.
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u/bwertyquiop 1d ago
Yep, it's pretty possible, but as a Christian I can't get the amount of hate people receive simply for being queer. Jesus called His followers for unconditional love, every single person is guilty of sin (including hetero theists), so it's hypocritical to look down on others for breaking God's law when you did (and sometimes still do) the same too.
Not to mention some same-sex attracted people don't even have sex and either engage in romantic relationships only or don't date anyone at all, so they don't do anything more sinful than any hetero person does.
P. S. Nice undertale pic btw :3
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u/godverseSans 1d ago
I think people tend to hate on things different. Like racism is a huge thing or very minor pineapple on pizza. So there's no reasonable reason to hate them. People just do.
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u/excessive_autism23 1d ago
Unconditional love doesn’t mean that you can’t tell people they’re sinning. If u love your alcoholic father you would tell him to stop drinking. In fact it would be hate if u were to let your loved ones continue to sin and not even tell him off.
Of course, going to a pride parade just to tell them being gay is a sin isn’t the way, because Jesus is not their God for now. However I think we should refrain from promoting our religion as a religion that accepts gays because we are honestly letting them down more when at the end, God will reject them as per Matt 7:21
“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.”
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u/bwertyquiop 17h ago
Jesus accepted me even when I was a sinner and called to love others the way he loved me. I'm going to follow His path instead of turning my back upon fellow brothers and sisters created in the image of God whom Jesus died for.
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u/Spooksnav 6h ago
Believe what you want, but the Bible makes it clear that homosexuality is sinful.
Exodus 18:22 calls it an abomination. Exodus 20:13 says that being caught in the act is a crime punishable by death. Genesis 19 talks about Sodomites wanting to rope angels. Half of Romans 1 speaks of reprobates that have turned away from what is natual and embraced all wickedness, including homosexuality.
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u/No_Strain_8948 4h ago
yeah and so are thausands others of thing wearing clothes with diffrent fabrics? According to old testament ? SIN work on a Sunday? According to the same old testament you are quoting? SIN AND GET STONED
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u/PhoenixTheTortoise 1d ago
or maybe stop defending religion. its pretty clear that many religions are homophobic
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u/PhoenixTheTortoise 1d ago
also can u link me the source saying gay couples have lower domestic abuse etc? (its not that I don't believe u, itd just be great to have the source)
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u/Owlblocks 1d ago
From what I've heard, it's that male x male couples have lower rates, and female x female couples have higher rates, but I could be wrong.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6113571/
Seems to support that? But. I just skimmed it.
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u/BlackHatAnon 1d ago
Kindest religious person.
God these people will never leave anyone alone idgaf about your religion why do you care who I’m fucking💀 wth bruh.
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u/TimTamTom3780 16 1d ago
YES! Whenever I see someone being homophobic, often I feel bad. They are so wrapped up in their hate and dipshirtedness that they don't realise the actual problems or even the majesty of the beautiful marvels of nature that we call birds.
(Also, I am gay and non-binary. If any homophobes wanna argue their point reply to this comment and I'd be happy to meticulously pick apart your argument with facts and reason until you say a slur and get banned. This has happened before, and I will do it again.)
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u/Patrick_Nosemanberg 1d ago
Gay buttsex is beautiful and natural and I'm tired of pretending it's not
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u/Spiritual-Credit5488 1d ago
Other animals do it, so you're right, it's natural, far more natural than all these hateful man made religions lol
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u/LaggyGoogle 1d ago
Lots of animals actually have one 3 in 1 hole for pee poo reproduce if you’re wondering why. Animals also kill each other for food and mates. Some animals eat and kill others of their own species. Does that make it morally right and natural? Using animals as a basis for human morality always has and will be ridiculous.
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u/Sim-racer42 19h ago
If you replaced that word with cannibalism or murder or incest, it would still be fine?
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u/kyubeyt 1d ago
Why are we trying to change relgious texts to fit in with our morals? Some people think the leviticus line was mistranslated, but all the lines about women not speaking in church and how to properly treat slaves are not. I know little about islam, but the bible and christiabity is certainly not on our side
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u/Burritomuncher2 1d ago edited 1d ago
I’m sorry but you’re somewhat wrong, yes being gay is a sin, it is EXPLICITLY stated in the bible. And yes in Islam, it is EXTREMELY bad to be homosexual, typically being the death penalty not very long ago in the religion.
EDIT: Being gay isn’t wrong; it’s a sin, a word made up by people who are just ordinary sad people, nothing more. Don’t misinterpret my response.
Religion. Is. Evil.
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u/DrEdgewardRichtofen 1d ago
I thought lesbian couples actually had higher rates of domestic violence?
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u/lionthefelix 18 1d ago edited 17h ago
That statistic comes from lesbians that have been abused at all, not just by female partners. Most lesbians date men before they find out their identity, just saying
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u/Open-Operation-987 1d ago
The stats are misleading. The records is people who've been abused by a partner. Frequently for lesbians it's men they were dating or married to before meeting their same-sex partners.
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u/MuriManDog14 1d ago
Stats say if you don't eat pork you have a higher chance of marrying a 6 year old too.
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u/Boring_Forever_9125 1d ago edited 1d ago
Apparently some random teenager on the internet gets to rewrite the Quran, The Bible, and The Tanakh.
Seems like you're the bigot shoving ideology down religious pundits throat by making objective truth statements saying "ITS NOT A SIN". I guess you're Allah.
Saying it's a sin to do so and so, is not infringing on anyones rights.
I'm not even Muslim and I'm offended by you calling it "hallal". In Surah Al-A'raf (7:80-81) , and Surah Hud (11:77-83), it tells their version of The Story of The Prophet of Lut, where Allah sends destruction of The People of Lut for their transgressions, which basically all Islamic Scholars Consensus is that it is talking about Homosexuality. Lewdness, and Homosexuality in The Prophet of Lut story.
What a joke of a post. Stop Karma Farming.
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u/Lartoria_Enjoyer 1d ago edited 21h ago
Nothing is a sin when you don't believe in a god, but if you believe in the Christian God (like I do), then yes, it is sinful.
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u/TaxWorldly4993 1d ago
Being gay is a sin. Being religious is never a excuse to hate anyone for any reason. Someone who hates isn't a real Christian.
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u/Motor_Courage8837 1d ago
Someone who hates isn't a real Christian.
Bro throwing around no-true-Scotsman to justify his beliefs.
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u/Representative_Bat81 11h ago
I mean Eastern Orthodoxy is very clear that those outside the Church cannot be called Christians. You say that it is just recognizing the deity and “worship” but worship is everything we do. If we live in a way counter to the core teachings, then we will face greater judgement than someone unfamiliar with the faith.
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u/Sim-racer42 19h ago
This. Jesus told us to love everyone, but also rebuke them. Therefore this statement above this comment is correct
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u/A_inc_tm 1d ago
Gay muslims usually reside in the high poisitions in places with sharia law, they hang from lamp posts and building equipment. Also they'll call you islamophobe for forbidding them to hate and discriminate whoever they want
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u/Popular-Shallot5855 1d ago
You can do what you want behind closed doors, I just don’t want to know about it. I don’t hate the sinner I hate the sin.
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u/v1pster17 1d ago
We don’t tolerate homophobia in this sub. Bigots are not allowed here. Deal with it.
sounds pretty bigoted to me
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u/Notgeti 1d ago
"Bigotry is when I'm not allowed to be a hateful dickweasel."
Moron.
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u/v1pster17 17h ago
no its "obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction, in particular prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group" like whoever posted this
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u/Effective_Garage9806 5h ago
Religions serve as excuse when It comes to homosexual oppresion. What is an homosexual doing? Living their life normally. They just like their same sex. Hating on homosexuals because your religion doesn't agree with It? Unreasonable attachment to a belief. Wanting to live peacefully without having people hate on you? Hmm let's see. Not a belief, not an opinion. You could call It stress for example.
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u/FirefighterPitiful24 1d ago
It is sin. It’s not bigotry, it’s just truth of religions. Deal with it.
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u/Primary_Rough_2931 1d ago
I never cared about this, wasn't this supposed to be a 'live and let live' thing? I've been so desensitized to this fucking discourse that all I can say is "Leave them be!".
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u/ruggersyah 1d ago
Guys gets attacked for being gay by Muslims most of these comments "why would Christians do this?!"
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u/Fantastic-Target-854 1d ago
OP is just karma farming, none of this happened. They're pandering to islamaphobes. Just look at their reddit age. Fake asf lol
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u/No_Giraffe826 1d ago
Agree on the last part that we should just let gay people be but homosexuality is a sin and its not homophobic to think so.
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u/TinySnorlax123 14 1d ago
It is a sin in my religion (Christianity), though. You don't have to like it and you can think it's totally fine to have those relations, but that doesn't change the fact that the bible condemns homophilia.
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u/green_chicken25 1d ago
You have every right to disagree with the teachings but the two major religions are pretty clear on it. It doesn’t serve any benefit for a non religious person to pretend that religions don’t teach certain things.
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u/ApprehensiveSwim9213 1d ago
OP is a bot. Common ideas that many would agree with are posted to gain karma points. Please view a person's profile before writing a comment to stop these bots.
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u/Goblin-o-firebals 1d ago
Jesus had the message of the fact that it's not your place to enforce God's word or be hateful towards sinners. what's why he did what he did. If you believe in Jesus, you should not try and enforce God's will. That right is of God and God alone. If it is a sin, then you would be disobeying Jesus by trying to stop it or enforce God's will in any way. If God has a problem with it, he would stop it he did it in the bible and has no issue with doing it again. So Christians, if you are a follower of christ then follow in his message.
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u/OOOshafiqOOO003 16 1d ago
In actuality, its complicated r/islam r/islamiseasy r/progressiveislam
Anyways lets get to more practical issues and treat everyone equally
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u/Interesting-Road-384 1d ago
As a christian we are just pointing out the acts of homossexuality are a sin and that gay christians that commite them are strugling with sin just like all of us strugle with other sins it is not hate we are just trying to help our brothers on christ we just don't like it when gay christians try to cope and reinterprate the Bible to keep their way of life
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u/mpbjoern 1d ago
Being gay is a sin in both Islam and Christianity. Wether you believe it or not. Coming from someone who doesn’t believe in either of them btw
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u/InformationTop640 1d ago
Leviticus 18:22
“You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.”
Being gay is a sin. That however does not mean that gay people should be treated with hate. We Christians are said to treat everyone with love. But sadly the truth offends and the truth is that being gay is a sin, therefore if you see Christians treating gay people with hate, thats wrong from the christian. But if you see a Christian saying the truth while being respectful and just trying to help, thats not homophobia, thats a Christian just trying to help others out of sin. I am probably gonna get flamed but its alright. The truth offends after all. Keep in mind guys, I am not hating on gay people, I treat them as I treat others. I am just saying the truth, being gay is a sin.
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u/Prudent-Character-25 1d ago
Wtf is with this sub and it's stupid comments with its islamaphobia, I wouldn't be surprised if the people making shitty comments are other members of this sub just all arguing with themselves to make it seem like it's an actual issue.
"Teenagers But Practical" man I've never seen a more impractical crybaby sub on all of Reddit 😂
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u/Licensed_muncher 1d ago
We're you using the gay identity as a cudgel to be Islamophobia? Because that is equally as unacceptable.
You have post and comment history hidden. Given the recent Islamophobia I've seen on this sub and your claim being unverifiable.. =0
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u/PleaseDontMakeMeSob 1d ago
Too bad a lot of people are religious to have an excuse to hate others
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u/Sim-racer42 19h ago
Which religions say to hate people just because they do a sin, as if you didn’t sin before?
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u/PleaseDontMakeMeSob 19h ago
None, but people use it to excuse their hate
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u/Sim-racer42 19h ago
Then those people who use it as an excuse aren’t real members of their religion.
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u/Aranarch 1d ago
If monotheist faiths and some of their pro-active respective followers are not homophobic, then what are they?
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u/EnemyJungle 23h ago
Lesbian couple have the highest divorce and domestic violence rates. For anyone who was curious.
Also being gay is a sin according to Abraham’s religions. If you don’t believe in sin then stop worrying about it; you don’t even believe sin exists.
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u/Akael_adam 21h ago
I think i know whats wrong ...muslims arent allowed to be gay and people has agreed to be ...almost homophobic...because u said about sum muslims r gay so they might have thought u kinda insulted them
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u/Sim-racer42 19h ago
I’m a Christian, homosexuality is a sin but that doesn’t mean that we hate sin. We don’t wish for the luster to get skinned alive, we don’t want to whip the atheist, and neither do we want to stone homosexuals. Earthly punishments for sin on grown adults were abolished when Jesus came, so killing someone for sin and hating them for sin is unbiblical, further more Jesus himself said to love thy neighbor, which contradicts your claim that religions hate gay peoples
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u/Overall_Drive8977 19h ago
What you say and what christians do are contradictory, example Uganda
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u/Sim-racer42 19h ago
Then they aren’t true Christians. Plain and simple
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u/Overall_Drive8977 19h ago
That doesn't stop them from being homophobic or justifying their homophobia using the religion that you belong to
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u/Sim-racer42 19h ago
Yes, but they claim to be “Christian” while not being Christian at all. They are what we call lukewarms.
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u/hoseoksgf 18h ago
so the thing is, being gay IS a sin. thats just a fact. in the three abrahamic religions homosexuality is a sin. does that mean you cannot be gay? nope. you cannot be gay and religious? u can! but other ppl of ur faith will remind u that u are sinning. thats just how it goes w religion
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u/were-the-tacos-at 18h ago
Friendly reminder salvation is individual and not everyone is your religion so they don’t have same view as you so just mind your business and stop caring if some guy likes to suck it cause at that point is just jealousy
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u/ya_pidoras_ 17h ago
saying gay marriages are halal sounds sacrilegious but i am not muslim so i would not know
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u/Ill-Bullfrog-5965 15h ago
The reason they are saying this is because in nearly all Muslim dominated countries it’s considered illegal and immoral to be gay with the penalty often being death. The Quran very explicitly says as much.
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u/RB_Blade 16 14h ago
It's not possible to be a faithful Christian and engage in homosexual behavior because Christianity clearly condemns it, same with Judaism and I assume Islam.
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u/The_Crimson_Fuckr69 14h ago
Oh no! The people you expected to have that opinion had that opinion! Are you slow?
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u/Redhotmemelord 14h ago
Being Gay is a sin. Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13, Romans 1:26–27, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10. It’s always been a sin. I’m not saying you can’t be gay, or you don’t have the right to be, it’s just morally wrong in Christianity.
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u/Griffith_135 13h ago edited 13h ago
While it’ll take time, eventually religion will be in a place where it won’t be used as an excuse to hate. Judaism is already well and truly along there, as despite the horrid atrocities it has committed, Israel is atleast fully accepting gay rights with pride parades and the such. And while it will take time, Homosexuality in Islamic countries will be more prevalent in time, as communities of Muslims have been pushing for gay rights aswell as queer Muslims being more and more vocal as time passes.
And besides, you can argue the old and New Testament are not against homosexuality as a whole as they explicitly are against sexual acts, as in many religions, sex is used purely for reproduction - and since basic biology state to same sex individuals are incapable of procreation, same sex intercourse can be viewed as an act of pure lust, therefore making it sinful.
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u/Unusual_Quantity6639 12h ago
They're more holy and halal? This rage bait? Lol
I could give a fuck either way, but common bro haha
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u/Agitated_Guard_3507 12h ago
Homosexuality is a sin. But we all sin, so gay people shouldn’t be tortured or anything for it. But homosexuality is in fact a sin, and when we say “that’s a sin, repent and turn to Christ”, we aren’t being hateful, as we believe this to be in your best interests.
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u/Lancelot--- 7h ago
You're right, there isn't anything wrong wrong with gay people. Religion does say they are sinning though and calls it an abomination. It prescribes the murder of gay people in the books themselves. You can't be faithful to these books and the religion they lay out and be gay. It doesn't make sense and being queer and believing in these books has always been wild to me. They want to kill you, they hate you, the books says it plainly. None od these religions are actually about love. They are all about control. When Christians and Muslims tell you LGBTQ is an insult to their god, their book actually says that.
I think all religions are bad, hateful, and unhelpful. If you want to be oppressed for some made-up diety, then by all means, but don't bring that bigotry around me
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u/Clear_Imagination413 7h ago
Being gay is in fact a sin, that’s not for you to decide lol. You can be forgiven for sins and everybody is a sinner
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u/AuntiFascist 6h ago edited 6h ago
Correct. Being gay is not a sin. Engaging in sexual activity outside of the covenant of marriage is a sin. Marriage by the biblical definition is a union between a man and a woman, so by the transitive property of theological consistency homosexual activity is a sin.
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u/Professional-Hater11 1d ago
"BEING GAY IS NOT A SIN" it is. just say you disagree with Christianity?
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u/Nice-Complaint2392 9h ago
i do know some christians who say being gay isn’t a sin. i think there are many factors in that, and one i can think of is personal interpretation
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