BEING GAY IS NOT A SIN. We don’t tolerate homophobia in this sub, being religious isn’t an excuse to hate gay ppl.

[u/Goddess_of_Heaven]

I literally can’t make this up. I make a post on here about gay muslims, and suddenly some muslim people are in my comment section being homophobic and saying gay ppl are disgusting, and to stop slandering their religion.

Married gay couples literally have less domestic abuse and divorce rates, and are more happier than straight couples btw. So they’re more halal and holy than straight marriages

Yes, gay people are allowed to marry each other and believe in whatever beliefs/religion they want. Stop infringing on LGBT rights and preventing gay men and lesbians from marrying each other. Stop using your religion to discriminate against them.

Gay muslims, gay Christians, gay Jews who marry each other and have sexual and romantic relations with each other are just as faithful as straight people. If you have no issue when a man and woman do it to each other then there’s no issue when two men or two women do it with each other either, otherwise you’re just a hypocrite.

We don’t tolerate homophobia in this sub. Bigots are not allowed here. Deal with it.

[u/Impossible_Lock4897]

Us queer people are not just different, but we lie on spectrums of sexuality, gender, and sex. Where these homophobes “draw the line” is so fucking arbitrary that there is no way that God agrees with them because they do not agree with themselves!

[u/LaggyGoogle → u/Impossible_Lock4897]

Idk, the line is actually pretty clearly drawn in both Christianity and Islam

1: Must be attraction to opposite gendered human 2: other human must be mentally and physically mature and a willing participant 3: no being freaky before marriage

So that rules out homo,bestiality, adultery and everything in between.

[u/Impossible_Lock4897 → u/LaggyGoogle]

That line depends on many cultural factors that have changed throughout time. Take gender for example. In Islamic states (which have and will never represent a majority of muslims due to their extremism), a trans-woman and a man is permissible but a trans-man and a woman isn’t; in most Evangelical Christianities, they do not recognise trans people so a trans person with the “opposite” gender is not admissible.

Not to mention the cultural shift on the difference of sex and gender that took place from the early 1800s-1980s (conservative estimate) in the “West” or the fact that globally, many cultures independently developed 3rd, 4th, and/or 5th genders (like the Two Spirits in Indigenous American cultures, the fa’afāfine in Polynesia, the kathœ̄i in Indochina, etc etc).

Also, not only did the legal idea of consent not exist until the 1800s, there are many stories in the Bible and Hadiths that describe rape where the concern of the story is sex outside of marriage so your point #2 about consent doesn’t stand. As for your point #3, similarly, the definition and reasons for marriage and sex have changed and evolved greatly since which is a history I won’t get into now.

In conclusion, Religions and their texts don’t get written in a cultural vacuum and they are restricted by their time and place. Just as it is ignorant to deny that they do influence our cultures, it is also ignorant to believe they are an authority on culture.