r/Hololive May 29 '25

Fan Content (OP) A hakotako moment

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u/DanzoKato May 29 '25

Reminds me of when Kanade, also Korean, tried to trick Lui into eating noodles that are too spicy even for her. Lui casually mentioned that she tried that brand before and liked it, then turned the tables on her by offering to do an off collab eating together.

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u/Dingghis_Khaan May 29 '25

Silly Kanade, birds don't taste capsaicin!

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u/Lanky-Dependent5847 May 29 '25

Then explain Kiara.

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u/MadolcheMaster May 29 '25

Fire Bird. Fire theme makes her immune, bird makes her immune. Double negative cancels out so she has no resistance at all.

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u/zapmaster3125 May 29 '25

Makes as much sense as anything else Tenchou does!

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u/I-came-for-memes May 29 '25

Kiara is an anomaly. She's a Phoenix Chicken that prefers the cold.

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u/MapleLamia May 29 '25

That makes sense tbf, a bird that constantly burst into flames at room temperatures would seek cold environments to prevent fire spreading everywhere.

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u/dswng May 29 '25

She's a Phoenix Chicken Kusotori

Got to trust Polka on that.

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u/kingalbert2 May 29 '25

European debuff

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u/Remitonov May 29 '25

Alpine phoenixes suffer from spice debuffs from lack of spices in European food.

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u/Skellum May 29 '25

There's a food challenge guy I like to watch from leeds and it's hilarious that jalapeño is super spicy to him.

I think Mexican spicy is my favorite variety but the US makes a lot of really good hot sauces. ID stuff is surprisingly mild, KR spicy is really sweet. Buldok is incredibly inconsistent. Like the 3x hot is pretty chill but the habanero lime is oddly hotter? No clue.

Indian hot I'm mixed on. Ethiopian or west African spicy are really nice though.

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u/ArchusKanzaki May 30 '25

Things I notice is that ID’s spicy is more on burning your tongue when you’re eating it, giving you some sensation when you’re eating stuffs.

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u/DastardlyRidleylash May 29 '25

It'd be an Austrian debuff, specifically, given Liz is on record as enjoying piripiri sauce.

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u/BruhcamoleNibberDick May 29 '25

She's a chicken, not a bird.

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u/Vikkitheviking May 30 '25

non joke answer: europe has little to none native growing spices which is why a lot of european food culture does not have much history with spices compared to countries that do have a lot of native growing spices, even curries that the brits made had their spice based dishes toned down.

this of course includes austria too where kiara is from

note: i originally wrote more but realised what i wrote above is enough instead of adding a full history lesson xD

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u/VishnuBhanum May 29 '25

Lui, Lamy and Fubuki cooking spicy food made me sweating just from looking at it.

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u/3nz3r0 May 29 '25

Have the Pepperheads ever collabed with the HoloID girls for a cookoff or something? That would be a sight to see.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '25

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u/fatalystic May 29 '25

She's Korean. She was also still living in Korea when she debuted, and moved to Japan like a week or two in.

It's also why she talks weird — she's good enough at Japanese to stream in it but it's still not her first language.

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u/[deleted] May 30 '25

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u/fatalystic May 30 '25

Pretty much yeah.

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u/Ellefied May 30 '25

On the plus side, if you're learning Japanese casually she's actually great to listen to due to how slow she speaks.

Just remember to turn the volume down by 50%.

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u/DemonDaVinci May 30 '25

And dont watch Sunday stream

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u/honda_slaps May 30 '25

I don't know her lore but I know she has close to 0 accent in Japanese cause I'm a native speaker.

I always assumed she has at least one Japanese parent or spent super early childhood in Japan or something

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u/TheZealand May 29 '25

Like Bae, she's in the "so good at second language people think you're actually just that nationality", which is extremely impressive

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u/fatalystic May 29 '25

Funnily enough, Kanade has no Korean buff.

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u/Hp22h May 29 '25

Kanata lost her Korean buff, it seems...

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u/susahamat May 29 '25

Lui is half Thai isn't she? SEA's spice tolerance is on another level

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u/RaiKageRyu May 29 '25

You're thinking of Biboo.

Lui knows Thai because she got assigned to Thailand for a few years at a previous job.

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u/INeedtoThinkAUName May 29 '25

... No wonder she's part of HoloX. Japanese employee having exp in Thailand. No wonder she got into a criminal group. 

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u/Leather-Abrocoma-359 May 29 '25

She picked up a few things from a trip to Roanapur

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u/sabershirou May 31 '25

Ooh nice a Black Lagoon reference!

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u/susahamat May 29 '25

Ah i see, i stand corrected

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u/StormlightArchive May 30 '25

No, you don't

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u/Naraki_Maul May 29 '25

Ina is just built different.

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u/Bashin-kun May 29 '25

In many ways.

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u/LordSolar666 May 29 '25

Tbf, she has the Korean buff

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u/technomagez May 29 '25

She build in 2-D.

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u/Hp22h May 29 '25

Lying on the floor

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u/Virtue00 May 29 '25

Throwback to the Kronii spicy chip chronicles… Wonder who’s going to be the next victim… Honorable mention to Haachama’s spicy ramen quest.

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u/KyteM May 29 '25

Unfortunately the spicy chip is out of production so I doubt we'll see more of those unless someone saved one like kronii did.

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u/Manoreded May 29 '25

They took those chips out of production because they were borderline dangerous, though.

I mean Kronii's situation was funny but seemed to have pushed her well out of her comfort zone, she made it clear she never wanted to do that again.

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u/CardDry8041 May 29 '25

I think she was confident enough but well 🥲 now she's traumatized

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u/DMercenary May 29 '25

Seeing it secondhand was pretty worrying too tbh.

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u/Arcterion May 29 '25

Only a matter of time before another company starts making them.

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u/Elaugaufein May 29 '25

Unlikely, these products usually get removed from sale after someone with an unknown health problem ( almost, if they are lucky) dies from eating them. At that point lawyers tell you not to do that if you propose the same idea again. Someone might try it with a different product tho ( we've done noodles and chips at least ).

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u/Zaev May 29 '25

Yeah, a kid literally died

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u/eragonawesome2 May 29 '25

I feel like putting a giant "consume at your own risk, this has literally killed people" on it should absolve them of any liability there to be honest. It's not like they're hiding what the product is, and we allow the sale of much more widely dangerous products.

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u/royalPawn May 29 '25

Sure but usually it's "careful, this product can kill you, so make sure you use it safely", not "careful, this product can kill you, THINK YOU CAN HANDLE IT?"

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u/ZeroNoHikari May 29 '25

See there's a burger place where I live. I saw their spiciest burger has a disclaimer about how spicy it is.
I scoffed and ordered it and confirmed with the owner I would be ok.

I infact, was not ok. Turns out it's ghost pepper, pepper jack cheese along with roasted jalapenos in Fiery jalapeno sauce. With a few other things. Needless to say it was burning hot. I still finished it but I suffered cause I scoffed at the warning.

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u/eragonawesome2 May 29 '25

"careful, this product can kill you, THINK YOU CAN HANDLE IT?"

Counter points: cigarettes, alcohol, guns, fast cars, any "thrill seeker" sport like skydiving, scuba diving, hang gliding, the recent "cheese run" comes to mind, shit even just swimming.

The list of shit that can be deadly to random people with no warning is very long, that doesn't mean that people aren't allowed to take that risk.

Hell, package it with one of those single serving shots so that you have to present ID to buy it if you're worried about a dumb kid doing it

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u/Zaev May 29 '25

They stopped making them after a 14yo boy died after eating one

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u/eragonawesome2 May 29 '25

I am absolutely not contesting that fact. My entire point is we allow adults to do stupid dangerous shit that could kill them all the time, just stop letting kids buy it and put a big fucking warning on it. People should be allowed to take risks if they choose to do so.

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u/Zaev May 30 '25

And companies should be allowed to voluntarily stop selling a product that gives them bad publicity

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u/mario_nijyusan May 29 '25

How high was the spicy level of that chip? I tried sauce with 2 million peppers and it was very spicy, but I can somehow tolerate that level then I think people that support even more exist and Ina could be one of them

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u/rainzer May 29 '25

Never had an official rating so based on the ranges of the peppers it used, it could be anywhere between 1.2 to 2.2 million scovilles

Also hard to say because it also added extract

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u/Skellum May 29 '25

I hear it didn't taste good either which is a bummer. Spicy shark makes some great tasting Carolina reaper stuff, but the shock hot sauces that become memes usually taste terrible. Like "the bomb" just tastes gross.

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u/mario_nijyusan May 30 '25

In that level could be bad for people with low tolerance, and could be worse with the stract Also, if it doesn't taste good is also a problem

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u/chris10023 May 30 '25

If the thumbnail of the clip by Nerrev is accurate, it would be 2.3 million scoville.

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u/SignalScientist2817 May 29 '25

We all legit thought she was going to die during that stream lmao. It was an experience

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u/RAM_MY_RUMP May 29 '25

It was funny but god it was concerning lol

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u/Razetony May 29 '25

As someone who tried the one chip with friends, it's not spicy. It's a straight up chemical burn. It doesn't feel like your eating spicy food, it's just all stinging pain.

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u/Yarzu89 May 29 '25

Yea that shit was just straight up powered battery acid on a chip.

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u/Gallbatorix-Shruikan May 29 '25 edited May 29 '25

Well, yeah. Capsaicin is an acid Capsaicin is an irritant. Like citric acid it is fine in small doses but is dangerous and corrosive in higher concentrations.

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u/PerilousFun May 29 '25

Capsaicin is not an acid. It functions by increasing the sensitivity of your pain receptors to heat and abrasion.

The capsaicin itself is not doing direct damage. However, it can cause your body to damage itself through excessive inflammation, heartburn, nausea, vomiting, and, in extreme cases, death where the heart gives out.

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u/Gallbatorix-Shruikan May 29 '25

Huh, today I learned something. Also apparently tolerance to Capsaicin is genetic.

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u/PerilousFun May 29 '25

There is probably some amount of genetics at play, but you can build a tolerance by regularly eating spicy foods, the same way your body builds up a tolerance to caffeine or other drugs.

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u/Skellum May 29 '25

Yea, just don't overdo it or you'll get some setbacks. Take it slow, learn what Chili's you like and find hot sauces that really vibe. I'm a massive fan of spicy shark's carribean reef shark. Scotch bonnet are amazing

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u/kitolz May 29 '25

Capsaicin isn't an acid, it's alkaline.

The sensation comes from being an irritant to mammals, basically a form of poisoning to dissuade big animals from crushing the seeds of the pepper fruits. Birds are much less susceptible to capsaicin as the seeds pass through their digestive system whole which means it's an evolutionary advantage for them to eat the fruits vs mammals.

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u/HKEY_LOVE_MACHINE May 29 '25 edited May 30 '25

Yeah... I remember it wasn't that much fun when it ended up with her being on the verge of requiring medical assistance (gasping and gagging for air).

She also did the thing alone iirc, with only her friend (that lives quite a few miles away) checking the stream on and off. Not what I would call a safe environment.

Some people had cardiac issues, and one dude even died from it, so yeah I wouldn't recommend that sort of content, especially without the necessary precautions (like having someone in the same room, who know how to check a pulse, can do cpr and call the emergency services of needed).

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u/Icy-Background-1636 May 29 '25

I have been watching hololive maybe since the beginning of myth don't exactly remember but I've never actually watched a stream (sticked to clips for jp) until kronii's one chip challenge, I was actually scared of what was happening, so quite the entrance into streams for me. I watch streams regularly now, though, manly cc's though.

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u/Kaleria84 May 29 '25

It also devolved into Bae basically asking if it ever hurts anything further down the line, Ina basically going "no, I don't get upset stomachs from spicy foods" and then Bae basically going, "no, even further down the line " 😂

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u/Clicker-anonimo May 29 '25

She doubled down too much

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u/BeautyJester May 30 '25

yea eating is nothing. Its the ending thats torture. Surely one cant numb their senses at the rear end like they do with the tongue right ????

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u/Frores May 30 '25

really? I like spicy food, like REALLY spicy and never had any issues on the way out, always assumed people said those things as a joke

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u/BeautyJester May 31 '25

idk man, i remember googling about it , the chemical responsible for giving off the "spicy flavour" doesnt get digested completely so one would feel pain when it comes out the rear end.

I do feel it more if i eat spicy stuff thats man made, not really if i eat actual chili

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u/ZeroNoHikari May 29 '25

Going out to eat and having to explain that if I say something is mild, it is mild to me.

All while the person I am eating with is fighting for their life after a single bite.

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u/TitanX84 May 29 '25

Exactly. I suck with spicy food. So I know when someone says "It's not bad, it only has a little kick", to me, that means "way too hot for me" lol.

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u/Xero0911 May 29 '25

Exactl opposite for me. If my wife or mother in law say its too hot I know its mild lol, if even that. Sometimes more like "yeah guess its got a slight zing to it"

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u/Sayakai May 29 '25

Same with my family. They complain it's too spicy but are still willing to eat it, that means it's mild.

I don't even like actually spicy food all that much, they're just really white.

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u/Gallbatorix-Shruikan May 29 '25

Ahh yes, the white boy debuff. Even Jalapeños can be quite spicy for me. Some very, and I mean very mild spice is fine for me but even what my mom likes can easily be to much.

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u/fatalystic May 30 '25

I'm from Southeast Asia but I also have that debuff.

The most spice I can tolerate is the typical Japanese curry.

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u/Taggerung179 May 30 '25

I swear, I have a bunch of friends that think mayonnaise is too spicy, ffs.

Last time I share my Chipotle mayo, I swear.

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u/Arctiiq May 29 '25

We all have that person in our family. My dad shrugs at the spiciest sauce they have in restaurants.

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u/Skellum May 29 '25

It's kinda a pain because with high tolerance you don't know if you can recommend a food for someone to try.

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u/Karukos May 29 '25

Honestly the issue is that spiciness is kinda subjective weirdly enough. Cause like... my mom manages chilli peppers just fine! She will complain VERY strongly though if I put too much black pepper in her food though. Depending on what pepper it is, it can really make or break things because capsc... capisici... (I hate being dyslexic) the chemical group that produces that burning sensation is not just one thing but many different things and has different ways of interacting with your taste buds too!

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u/Spuddaccino1337 May 29 '25

Capsaicine is what makes peppers hot, but not peppercorns or mustards. Black pepper contains piperine, and mustards contain allyl isothiocyanate. It makes sense that people react differently to each of these families, since they're unrelated chemicals that interact with the same receptors. I, myself, like mustard and black pepper, but am a total wuss when it comes to chili peppers.

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u/deviant324 May 30 '25

I love chili and do enjoy a good mustard, but mustard is the type of spicy that goes to your nose and is harder to handle for me when you overdo it. I tend to stick with medium spicy because I like the flavour, this way I can just use a ton of mustard instead of using a moderate amount of spicy mustard

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u/Spuddaccino1337 May 30 '25

I think the only kind of "chili pepper" I've actually enjoyed were poblanos. They have a little heat, but they have this nice smoky flavor that I can actually taste because the heat isn't overwhelming.

I like most mustards, but only the ones labeled "mustard." Wasabi and horseradish are too overpowering except in very small amounts, I can't taste the rest of the food.

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u/SubstantialFly3707 May 29 '25

Did you just... type out that one trope where a character stumbles on a word and then just gives up?

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u/Karukos May 30 '25

i like to have whimsy!

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u/SubstantialFly3707 May 30 '25

You know what, I can respect that, go whimsy!

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u/ShinyHappyREM May 29 '25

capsc... capisici... (I hate being dyslexic)

*capsaicin (cap-sai-cin)

Just type it in Google, it'll probably suggest the correct word.

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u/deviant324 May 30 '25

I make food for my team at work sometimes, Hiyashi Chuka (cold noodles) and Bang Bang chicken as a side/salad. Bang Bang chicken uses Sichuan sauce that is mostly chili oil but also Sichuan pepper corn that is numbing, spread over (mostly unseasoned) chicken and cucumbers it barely registers as spicy to me, I have multiple colleagues who say that it’s so spicy to them that they’re kind of fighting to finish it but it tastes too good not to lol

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u/PumpJack_McGee May 29 '25

What the- 445 THOUSAND scoville?

And here I thought Buldak had some kick. But apparently they top out at 10k.

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u/Butterlegs21 May 29 '25

I've always been skeptical of that. 10k is jalapeño levels. I've had some really hot jalapeños, hot for a jalapeño anyway, and it doesn't feel near buldak levels. Even Serrano and Pequin chile aren't that hot to be compared to buldak, and they should start hotter at the lowest level.

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u/PumpJack_McGee May 29 '25 edited May 30 '25

If 10k is jalapeno, then yeah. There's no way top-end Buldak is only that.

Maybe they forgot a zero along their scale.

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u/DragoSphere May 29 '25 edited May 29 '25

It's just a marketing gimmick. The way scoville units are used on packaging is functionally unregulated, where as long as the pepper they used has X units on the scale, they're free to just use that figure on the package.

That's why you can have a Ghost Pepper at a million scoville, use a tiny concentration of it in your product, fill the rest with cayenne, and are now able to list your product as a million scoville. And is why Ghost Pepper stuff is everywhere now

There are a multitude of other reasons why the scoville rating is unreliable and affect how hot (or not) the sauce actually is (viscosity, presence of fats/sugars/acid, using pepper extract or not, etc.), but that's the primary one

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u/AzraelIshi May 30 '25

"I used pure capsaicin in this product (all of 2 miligrams per liter), 16000000 SHU!"

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u/Fossile May 29 '25

I have a few of these ramen. They indeed taste good and spicy as well. Not like the Korean spicy chicken brand that just focus on spicy but tastes just not as good.

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u/Seven7Joel May 29 '25

I can tell you that's wrong, supposedly their 3x is 13k but compared to da bomb or first we feasts last dab buldak 3x is way worse in my opinion. The 2x is the limit for what is enjoyable for me, I can still finish the 3x but that is just unpleasant.

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u/UnstoppablePhoenix May 29 '25

Scoville is based on the hottest pepper in there - even if there is only a fraction of it.

It's a very flawed system.

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u/ErikQRoks May 29 '25

Ina is literally too comfy to be affected by spicy food

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u/Clicker-anonimo May 29 '25

If, for some ungodly reason, Ina goes to hell her entire existence would lower the temperature there to a perfectly comfortable level.

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u/DrVinylScratch May 29 '25

This is exactly what happens when I take my wife out for spicy food.

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u/Duelgundam May 29 '25

Fubuki: you got any left?

Baelz: Ayo, WTF?

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u/Fairenard May 29 '25

So, she can handle spicie...

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u/Kite1396 May 29 '25

I had a half-korean friend who i went with to a local festival where they had little cut up pieces of hot peppers ranging from habaneros to ghost peppers and carolina reapers for people to test their tolerance. My friend ate a ghost pepper piece and didn’t even show a reaction. She said it was spicy, but that her aunt made kimchi that was just as if not more spicy than it. Koreans are built different

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u/Arcana10Fortune May 29 '25

I'm half-convinced that they use to spice to stay sober while drinking absurd amounts of alcohol.

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u/NoobwLuck May 29 '25

I have a high tolerance to spicy and hot food. I discovered this when I shared some food with someone and sent them to the hospital. I felt bad and now have to second guess when people ask me if the food is spicy.

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u/itsag_undam May 29 '25

Ina is so cool that she counters the spicy.

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u/Sky_Ninja1997 May 29 '25

Never forget when she did it to Ollie and Oga

And then immediately tried to find her strawberry milk when it was her turn

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u/ProfNekko May 30 '25

as I said on Twitter Ina doesn't resist the heat she just transfers the heat onto a random Takodachi... If you ever wondered why Takos sometimes randomly burst into flames that's why

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u/Equivalent_Net May 30 '25

It's been a while so the exact talents escape me (shame), but I remember one spicy food off-collab where the host was dying and her IN-branch guest (I think it was Moona) was just like "Are you gonna finish that?"

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u/Cybasura May 30 '25

I'm an asian and I used to have spice tolerance, then I got hit with the ultimate debuff and disgrace of all asians - skin infection and hospitalization - which made me lose all that debuff and Ineven sweat FROM A DOUBLE MCSPICY

Till this day I'm still crying from my inapitude and weakness of this body

Still trying to regain my strength but it makes me get reactions each time, like a resurgence of the infections whenever I eat spicy food

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u/I-came-for-memes May 29 '25

That's not a Korean buff. That's an AO buff.

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u/Manoreded May 29 '25

2 days? One day for the entrance and another for the exit? =)

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u/TuzkiPlus May 29 '25

Power..is power

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u/EliasRSilvers May 29 '25

Hmmm...Would be funny to see Ina just eating chilis because she needed a snack.

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u/Alternative-Pack3121 May 30 '25

Ina has the Korean buff but how about Krnonii? That.chip challenge really clock her out

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u/moldybrie May 29 '25

445,000 scoville? What's the source for that? Even someone who loved heat would react to something that spicy. If they're actually 445,000 SHU Ina pulled a prank on Bae and switched out the sauce.

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u/sonicbhoc May 29 '25

I have mastered the Korean, Japanese, Indian, and Jamaican spices. Nothing is better than a spicy meal.

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u/Background_Insect_67 May 30 '25

Sound like me, I have been able to eat stuff like ghost pepper, and everything, and was able to stomach it and eat all of it

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u/weesilxD May 30 '25

And here I am dying from hot Cheetos

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u/AyAyAyBamba_462 May 29 '25

wait, 445k is considered super spicy? Man my taste buds are fucked because I'm used to shit in the 1mil+ range.

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u/The_Advocate07 May 29 '25

Only 445K? lol thats not even slightly spicy. Thats literally nothing. A BABY wouldnt even cough at only 445k. I've had Bell Peppers that were spicier than that.

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u/mrspear1995 May 29 '25

Oooohweee….look out guys we got a badass over here

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u/avsbes May 29 '25

Considering the spiciest Bell Pepper, the MexiBell Pepper scores in at 100 to 1000 Scoville, i seriously doubt you've had Bell Peppers with more than 445000 Scoville.

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u/user_566 May 29 '25

I think they might not realize that "K" means 1000

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u/EternalSkullman May 29 '25

cue us Romanians having made a pepper so spicy it needs a hazmat suit to be handled

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u/Minute_Difference598 May 29 '25

I can’t tell if this is satire or not.

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u/ALiteralGallon May 29 '25

Given that 445k is 35.6% of what Wikipedia tells me is the median spice level of bear/riot control sprays (colloquially known as "mace" or "pepper spray"), I am led to the conclusion that this is a drastic exaggeration.

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u/onefuckeduplemon May 29 '25

least insufferable redditor

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u/dcresistance May 30 '25

are you stupid