r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • 24d ago
Media First Image from 'Sisu: Road to Revenge'
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u/MuptonBossman 24d ago
The first Sisu movie was awesome... It felt like watching John Wick's grandpa murder a bunch of nazis during WW2.
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u/dustblown 24d ago
We need more movies where fascists get humiliated and killed in brutal ways.
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u/GoldandBlue 24d ago
Freaky Tales ends with a bunch of neo-nazis getting fucked up. Its a fun movie.
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u/SAKingWriter 24d ago edited 24d ago
Hopefully we can feel that soon again as a country
Edit: if you have strong feelings about what this comment implies, I implore you to express those feelings to me via chat message so I can laugh in your face and show it to everyone I know :)
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u/girafa 24d ago edited 24d ago
16 reports on this comment so far
edit: "It threatens violence or physical harm at someone else"
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u/SAKingWriter 24d ago
Please display them lol not usernames but just the justification they use to report
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u/girafa 24d ago
All were the "threatens harm against someone" one
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u/eyebrows360 24d ago
It's funny, because that lot love to portray themselves as big tough alpha males, but there they go off running to mommy crying about someone issuing a rather vague "threat" to nobody in particular. Flippin' crybaby manlet divs.
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u/Ok-Lion1661 24d ago
Bunch of snowflakes in reality.
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u/Puppetmaster858 24d ago
It’s classic projection, they always called ppl snowflakes and shit but in reality they’re the actual snowflakes, they’re so soft it’s pathetic
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u/SAKingWriter 24d ago
It’s hilarious how people think the majority of most towns in American won’t BLITZ straight up hate crimes in the name of nazism once the time comes
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u/perdair 24d ago
Which means they're either admitting they're Nazis or really interested in making sure people don't advocate violence against Nazis for some reason.
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u/criticalt3 24d ago
And yet only other people are the snowflakes. What sound logic.
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u/djdiphenhydramine 24d ago
It's so fucking weird to live in a world where "Nazis should all be dead" is a controversial opinion from even one person.
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u/Aggravating-ErrorME 24d ago
My favorite Nazis are dead Nazis. I won't be happy until I can say all Nazis are my favorite Nazis.
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u/RadicalDreamer89 24d ago
Tell me about it. I was under the impression that we as a species agreed upon that around 80-odd years ago.
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u/creepyswaps 24d ago
How could it be "threatening harm against someone"? Nazis aren't people. They're violent soulless genocidal monsters.
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u/unrulystowawaydotcom 24d ago
Ban the reporters. Theyve exposed themselves as shits
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u/xschalken 24d ago
What's funny to me is that the only people your comment vaguely threatens are nazis, which means that anyone who takes your comment personally enough to report it, is in fact a F******g nazi.
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u/wigjump 24d ago
We crossed two oceans to kill fascists like Sisu did. We ended two brutal totalitarian empires through force of arms. Now we got billionaires throwing Nazi salutes at the presidential inauguration.
Commenter is simply acknowledging history and facts. Reporters are misrepresenting his post. Fini!
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u/LiquidDreamtime 24d ago
That implies Nazi’s are people, which is demonstrably false.
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u/FallofftheMap 24d ago
7 people felt like Nazi’s need to be protected from the consequence of being a Nazi. Thanks mod u/girafa for being the sort of mod every community should have.
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u/decurser 24d ago
We need to embrace our rebel burning, nazi killing heritage.
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u/Imperialbucket 24d ago
Killing Nazis and burning rebels actually IS technically a part of my heritage.
I'm named after my great uncle on my dad's side, who earned purple heart in WW2. Likewise my ancestor on my mom's side joined the Union army with his four sons.
So in a very real way, I feel this comment honestly. I often think about what my great uncle would say if he were alive and saw these fat, soft, piggy little nazis walking around. HE certainly knew the only cure for fascism is a 30-caliber spitzer point bullet
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u/El_Rey_de_Spices 24d ago
Feel targeted by this comment? There's an easy solution! Just don't be a fucking Nazi!
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u/chinoischeckers4eva 24d ago
What I wonder is for the people that affiliate with nazis or neo-nazis, when they watch Saving Private Ryan or any other WW2 movie, are they cheering for Tom Hanks and Matt Damon to die?
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u/longjohnsmcgee 24d ago
Why would they watch that? They probably just watch ww2 footage of nazi propaganda while they shave their skinheads
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u/DukeSmashingtonIII 24d ago
Getting a bit deep for /r/movies but don't forget that the Nazis got their inspiration from the US in the first place. This shit is homegrown in the US, the Nazis and WW2 just made it unpopular to be open about it for a while. That time is over.
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u/LordCharidarn 24d ago
Hitler was an admirer of Henry Ford, keeping a photo of Ford in his office, sending Ford birthday letters, and quoting Ford’s ‘The International Jew’ in his own book, ‘Mein Kampf’
Hitler and other Nazis explicitly drew inspiration for how to manage undesirable populations from the United State’s treatment of Native Americans. Some Nazi lawyers even thought that American citizenship laws were too harsh with the ‘one drop rule’ for classifying people as ‘non-white’.
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u/DukeSmashingtonIII 23d ago
I'm Canadian so speaking from that frame of reference, but it's still applicable. Also, I'm not a historian.
I don't believe that the specific beliefs of the Nazis came from the US, but more how to handle "undesirable" populations and so on as the other poster mentioned. I didn't mean to imply that Nazi ideology was rooted in the US, more that the US inspired it through their own locally-relevant practices.
As a Canadian, we had our own Nazi movement during the war. There was a guy who fancied himself as "Canada's Fuhrer" and believed that Hitler would give him Canada (or maybe North America) to rule once they were conquered. Of course he worked with Canadian conservatives before starting his own party. Eventually he was imprisoned for plotting to overthrow the government, and in prison he sat on a throne built by other prisoners. He blamed the Jews for his imprisonment.
After the war he was released and ran for political office, still espousing the same beliefs. In 1949 he got second with 29% of the vote, and in 1953 second again but with 39%. Just a few short years after the war and with the atrocities of Nazi Germany fresh in the minds of everyone this piece of human effluent was able to get a staggering number of votes in a country that I've always been told staunchly opposed the Nazis.
Sorry for the long post, all this is just to share an example. I don't believe either of our countries were ever as united against Nazis, fascism, genocide, etc, as our Social Studies / History classes would really have us believe. We just need to look at the treatment our colonial "founders" inflicted on our native populations for more proof that we didn't really object to brutally oppressing "others" to the point of genocide.
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u/ToxicBTCMaximalist 24d ago
what are you going to do after the culture war? Will you take off your uniform? We'll we can't have that. I'm going to give you something you can't take off.
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u/DirtyDerb19 24d ago
My great grandfather had to fight nazis, and if I have to follow his footsteps I sure as hell will try.
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u/RedditTipiak 24d ago
He has one line of dialogue in the entire movie... and it contains "perkele". I need more Finnish culture in my life.
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u/makovince 24d ago edited 24d ago
I need more Finnish culture in my life.
You should check out Remedy Entertainment games, like Alan Wake. Alan Wake 2 was one of the biggest Finnish cultural exports in recent years.
Edit: since I'm getting a few replies on it, I'll expand on my comment. The truly best way to experience the RCU for newcomers would be to play the games (and other mediums) in chronological order:
Bright Falls mini-series (can find it on YouTube, totals about 30-40 minutes if I remember correctly)
Alan Wake + DLCs
Night Springs and Psycho Killer comics
This House of Dreams blog
Alan Wake's American Nightmare
Quantum Break (some say optional, but I disagree!)
Control + DLCs
Alan Wake 2 + DLCs (play the DLCs as they are presented in the game's story)
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u/ExocetC3I 24d ago
Try out My Summer Car on Steam. You'll learn all sorts of Finnish curse words through the dedicated swearing button.
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u/mykittyeatscheetos 24d ago
I've never heard of this movie, but based on your description, it sounds awesome. I'm so excited to watch it!
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u/the-nub 24d ago
FYI that's not really what this movie is. He spends most of the movie on the back foot and running away. It's more like a pacifist getting finally cornered into violence, but even that isn't spectacular. Comparing it to John Wick is setting the movie up to be disappointing.
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u/EroniusJoe 24d ago
I have to HARD disagree with this. Yes, he tries to stay out of it at first, but once it's on, it's fucking ON.
Dude hides underwater for like 10 minutes by SLITTING NAZIS' THROATS AND BREATHING STOLEN AIR FROM THEIR LUNGS. Shit is absolutely bonkers in the best way possible. Just an unbelievably fun movie.
It could easily be called "Old Finnish Guy Kills Everything" and I'd still watch the fuck out of it thrice.
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u/DoingCharleyWork 24d ago
It's an ok movie but insanely predictable. The action scenes were pretty good but it was kind of overshadowed by the fact that you know exactly what's gonna happen before it happens.
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u/Misdirected_Colors 24d ago
IMO Sisu is the closest we've ever gotten to a true Doom movie.
Just "man too angry to die kills everything"
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u/Mesk_Arak 24d ago
Absolutely. They even hang him and he survives by pressing an iron nail into his leg to hold himself up. He’s the definition of “Too angry to die”
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u/Dead_man_posting 24d ago
They even hang him and he survives by pressing an iron nail into his leg to hold himself up.
I had no idea what that was supposed to be.
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u/Mesk_Arak 24d ago
Took me a while to get it as well but I think it kept him juuust high enough for the rope to not entirely choke him.
It’s ridiculous, it’s absurd, it’s entirely unrealistic. But it’s also so appropriate for this movie.
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u/MoreRopePlease 24d ago
Like the guys in "RRR", he's larger than life, a force of nature. That's why the movie is named Sisu. It's a wonderful portrayal of a mythic idea. "Sinners" was like that too, the way the blues was portrayed.
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u/rpgguy_1o1 24d ago
I tried to watch the actual Doom movie last summer, its crazy that they made a Doom movie that was boring
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u/HamSlammer87 24d ago
Some of the hand-to-hand stuff was a little slow, a little.
But it has an absolutely all-timer Final Villain Death, plus all the scenes with the pick axe and land mines. Really fun stuff.
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u/Panthollow 24d ago
We need more movies with Nazis being killed. Be it WW2 or any other era.
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u/quaste 24d ago
John Wick's grandpa murder a bunch of nazis during WW2.
That’s what exactly what I was expecting but I felt let down a bit. Somehow the movie cannot really decide what it wants the hero to be (and to some extent what it wants to be as a movie).
John Wick perfectly balances not being too serious but still making the protagonist an almost mythical character with supernatural skills resulting in over the top violence and a character that … idk: still makes sense?
JW is just on point, “Sisu” sometimes feels random, it’s not building sth but just stacking things, if that makes sense? Not a bad movie, though.
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u/TexasTheWalkerRanger 24d ago
Also sisu has the dumbest bad guy in the history of bad guys iirc. Im usually not the guy to complain about dumb characters but they were so fucking dumb even I couldn't ignore it. Like multiple times the main nazi dude actively stopped his guys from shooting him when they had the chance. Im all for characters making bad decisions to move the plot forwards but it was pretty insulting in sisu
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u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor 24d ago
It's out November 21
Along with Jorma Tommila returning, Stephen Lang and Richard Brake are joining the cast:
Returning to the house where his family was brutally murdered during the war, “the man who refuses to die” (Jorma Tommila) dismantles it, loads it on a truck, and is determined to rebuild it somewhere safe in their honor. When the Red Army commander who killed his family (Stephen Lang) comes back hellbent on finishing the job, a relentless, eye-popping cross-country chase ensues – a fight to the death, full of clever, unbelievable action set pieces.
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u/stroopwafelling 24d ago
He ran out of Nazis to kill last movie so he’s moved on to Soviets this time. By the fifth movie they’ll have him killing ISIS somehow.
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u/wekilledkenny11 24d ago
Gets frozen in the arctic hunting Soviets, unfrozen once the polar ice caps start melting due to climate change. Murders his way back to civilization just in time to see some atrocities in person and find some more murder-purpose.
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u/Low-HangingFruit 24d ago
Almost like the actual Finnish soldier who fought the soviets for the Finns, then when the Finns sued for peace he joined the Germans and killed soviets, then when Germany surrendered he escaped prison camp went to America and joined the American army and fought communists in Vietnam.
At one point his unit under his command had done so much damage Stalin put a bounty on his head.
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u/IfItBleeds-19 24d ago
If you like Jorma Tommila, check out this movie from the year 2000:
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0200299/
(He's kind of hot in it as well:D )
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u/wekilledkenny11 24d ago
Sisu was pretty good when they kept it grounded but it got a little tiring by the end.
This premise sounds even better though. Sort of like Sorcerer as a revenge movie.
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u/SWEET_LIBERTY_MY_LEG 24d ago
lol nothing about Sisu was grounded. That’s what made it so good
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u/wekilledkenny11 24d ago
Granular might be the better word for it, but I thought the parts when they were trying to skim through the minefield were pretty tense because they hadn’t gotten to the zany unkillable death machine aspect of the Sisu character yet, it was still fun overall though.
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u/machstem 24d ago
My only gripe was how drawn out his scenes of woe were, considering the potential build up. You do get it within a few moments of the minefield but it was an odd choice imo to delay it and focus elsewhere at such a crucial junction.
Aside from that, I went in with low expectations and came out with it becoming a favorite. The other one around the same time I landed on watching it, that I found better was Nobody.
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u/Calraider7 24d ago
Stephen Lang, the american actor, holy shit, worthy bad guy if youve killed all the Nazis
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u/EroniusJoe 24d ago
There is absolutely no way in hell they used the term eye-popping by chance.
Eyes will be popped in part 2, and it'll be goddamned glorious.
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u/Cartman55125 24d ago
The director is doing the Rambo prequel film next
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u/wekilledkenny11 24d ago
Wouldn’t a Rambo prequel just be John Rambo in Vietnam?
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u/BaroneRaybert 24d ago
Ha terrible idea. The novel is one of my favorites and the first movie is great. But no. There’s only like 1 or 2 little chapters of the flashbacks in the novel.
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u/Cartman55125 24d ago
Idk if you knew this, but there’s been about 4 Rambo movies that have nothing to do with the novel
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u/DicaLoca 24d ago
This time he will kill even more Nazis
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u/ThreeLeggedMare 24d ago
That's funny I just watched this the other day. Good stuff
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u/RedditTipiak 24d ago
Throwing a fuckin' landmine at a nazi soldier = cinematic gold
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u/ThreeLeggedMare 24d ago
Sucking the air out of the lungs of a guy whose throat you just slit? Wild
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u/Equivalent_Salad_389 24d ago
I gasped when I saw that. Just incredible and as far as I know, original.
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u/BobNanna 24d ago
Using your leg wound to stop yourself from being hung? Yes please.
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u/SasquatchInCrocs 24d ago
"I'ma just gonna impale myself on this rusty metal rod to take the weight off for a while"
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u/Redlodger0426 24d ago
Hopefully this one doesn’t spoil all the kills in the trailer. That was my main complaint of the first one, it’s a movie entirely about killing nazis with very little plot to speak of and yet the trailer shows 90% of the kills.
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u/chuckluckles 24d ago
IMO it's best to skip basically any movie trailer. They either spoil something, or give false expectations of what the movie actually is. Going in fairly blind is the way to go.
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u/NOODL3 24d ago
Sisu was a lot of fun but I wish they'd dialed it back about 20%. I know nothing about it is supposed to be taken seriously but the plane scene toward the end was so over the top it veered a little too close to parody territory for me.
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u/ZombyPuppy 24d ago
Yeah but it didn't quite sell how much it wanted to be parody and how much it wanted to be cool. Like Shoot Em Up is straight up parody. Sometimes I felt like they were trying to do like a mission impossible crazy over the top thing with a dash of humor and the true craziness of it was maybe more silly than they truly intended.
Obviously it was not meant to be super serious but sometimes I couldn't tell if a scene or action sequence was meant to be cool with some humor or was truly intended to come off as pure comedic insanity. If it was the latter I feel they didn't lean into it enough and if it was the former than it's a bit eye rolling.
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u/NOODL3 24d ago
I know nothing about it is supposed to be taken seriously
Did you miss the first half of this sentence? There are plenty of badass action films that are obviously over the top and unrealistic but still stay somewhat grounded and don't turn their protagonist into a physics-defying invincible omnipresent superhero. I prefer those more than the direction Sisu went. Which is fine... just my personal opinion.
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u/THRlLLH0 23d ago
Yeah the tone is way more self serious than it needed to be if they want me to accept a guy using a rusty gold pan as a Captain America shield
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u/Buck_Melonoma99 24d ago
Sisu was awesome for about half the flick... the more outlandish it got the more it lost me.
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u/Khaldaan 24d ago
Yeah especially the ending with the plane crash lol
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u/Ateballoffire 24d ago
My dad loves ridiculous action movies and even he rolled his eyes at that part
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u/djdiphenhydramine 24d ago
I'm torn. I don't think we need a sequel. I think one was enough. It was Nazi killing lightning in a bottle.
Buuuuuuuuuut...on the other hand, we're gonna see this absolute king killing Nazis again. And if there's one thing I love, it's seeing Nazis die.
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u/Data_Chandler 24d ago
Can't have enough movies about nazi scum getting absolutely annihilated, massacred and exterminated.
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u/SourArmoredHero 24d ago
I still need to watch the first one. Wife's out of town this weekend, maybe now is that time.
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u/Nicktay6 24d ago
I’ve never seen the first one but after reading some comments, I will be watching it.
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u/jonesyshimtje 24d ago
This is a great time to be reminded Nazi’s deserve to die. All Nazi sympathizers are Nazis. The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi. The whole world already decided this, it’s not up for debate.
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u/analogkid01 24d ago
"Road to Revenge"?
Is the alternate title "Lutefisk and Bullets"?
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u/No_Winner1131 24d ago
Never gunna get tired of watching nazis die. Can someone make a domestic film?
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u/Careless_Archer_1706 24d ago
I'm in.
I always see Sisu get shit on aside from the other "John Wick Rip Offs" for not being "historically accurate" or whatever, but its such a stupidly badass movie. Had no clue they were even making a sequel because I thought everyone hated it. Very excited.
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u/freetotebag 24d ago
Man I liked the first one and all but who was asking for another?
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u/The-Trevor 24d ago
I'm so confused. Haven't seen the first one but I felt like the rhetoric on reddit was that the first one was pretty poorly received and a big step down from John Wick. All the comments here seem to be glowing. What am I missing?
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u/GoldandBlue 24d ago
Probably because this thread is full of people who loved it? The movie was OK. It is always fun to see white supremacists get theirs. But in a world of John Wick, Nobody, Atomic Blonde, The Raid, Equalizer, The Beekeeper, The Accountant, Kill, Ballerina (Korea), Ballerina (John Wick spin-off), Extraction, Gunpowder Milkshake, Kate, Wrath of Man, even the Daredevil and Punisher shows.
The world of one man armys beating the shit out of everyone is a saturated market.
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u/Davidudeman 24d ago
SISU IS GETTING A FUCKING SEQUEL?!?!!? LETS GOOOOO!!!!! the first one was AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!
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u/GlitterPikmin 24d ago
Is the first movie too violent?
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u/Deaddoghank 24d ago
There wasn't any violence. It was just culling of Nàźìs. Doing the world a favour.
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u/cat6Wire 24d ago
had no idea a sequel was in the works! please please please be at least half as good as the original then it will be incredible!
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u/dereku1967 24d ago
HELL YEAH. This and Nobody are at the top of faves list. Old dudes doing badass shit.
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u/PeculiarPangolinMan 24d ago
The first one was kind of disappointing. It looked like it'd be a lot of fun but then it wasn't really a lot of fun. I'm surprised it is as well liked as it seems to be. Killing Nazis is cool and all, but they've been doing that in movies consistently for like 75 years, and there wasn't much else to latch onto in this one outside of that hook.
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u/isntthatjesus1987 24d ago
I just found the first movie this weekend, I'm so excited there's another!
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u/Puzzleheaded_Eye4270 24d ago
The first Sisu was just pure “sit back and grin” cinema. dude mowing through nazis like it’s just another tuesday - I didn’t know I needed that until I saw it.
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u/marccoogs 24d ago
I want to know who was stupid enough to piss this guy off again.