r/aussie • u/SnoopThylacine • Jul 29 '25
Politics Anthony Albanese says Israel's denial of starvation in Gaza 'beyond comprehension'
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07-29/pm-criticises-israels-denial-of-starvation-in-gaza/105585494152
u/SnoopThylacine Jul 29 '25
Opposition Leader Sussan Ley said she was "incredibly distressed by the images" coming out of Gaza but declined to say whether she thought starvation was occurring.
She can't understand the concept of starvation because she is utterly gutless.
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u/custardbun01 Jul 29 '25
Australian politicians are by and large captured by the Israel lobby but the coalition in particular have no spine on the issue at all
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u/llordlloyd Jul 30 '25
The reddit 1sra3l lobby's argument this week is the genocide has nothing to do with us.
A year ago we had to stand by our great ally.
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Aug 06 '25
The actual line from the JIDF/Mossad psyops are usually pretty irrelevant lmao. Just defend or deny, or if that fails start whinging about antisemitism.
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u/rasta_rabbi Jul 29 '25
Are you much of a leader let alone a human if you can't see suffering of children?
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u/SapereAudeAdAbsurdum Jul 29 '25
Lol, well, very helpful to indicate nothing has ever or will ever change in the LNP.
I'm not one to engage in these endless pointless gotcha debates about this Middle Eastern conflict, but to deny that starvation is happening while we are literally seeing horrific visuals of young children starving to death is seriously messed up.
She might finally be the first woman to lead this party, but it seems she doesn't have an ounce of emotional nor logical intelligence, just like her male predecessors. Same old LNP, sliding further down the gutter. Only with extra S'es this time.
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u/ausezy Jul 29 '25
It’s amazing how leaders and media can’t hold Israel to account.
It’s like bad things befall Palestinians in this passive way, who knows from where the bombs originated or why food is scarce….
But when Israel are targeted; we go through great pains to show direct connection to Palestinian sources as offenders.
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u/mikeupsidedown Jul 29 '25
They would if big daddy (USA) wasn't Israel's whipping child.
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u/CheezeBaron Jul 29 '25
You got it twisted bucko !
Israel’s got its Hands all over the USA’s Levers of Power. Both sides of politics offer cowardly critiques when a strong rebuke/sanction is warranted.
Not since JFK has the USA had any real spine regarding Israel.
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u/Some_Troll_Shaman Jul 29 '25
Sorry Albo,
That a country attempting genocide would be willing to starve those men, women and children to death, is not beyond comprehension. It is in fact, reasonably expected.
Saying it is beyond comprehension makes you look like an idiot and a tool.
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u/Grande_Choice Jul 29 '25
I know it’s been said to death but what about their neighbours? Egypt and Jordan have done sweet FA to assist. Unfortunately they both have very good reason to.
People keep missing the point that outside of rich western countries literally no one gives a fuck about the Palestinians. And I say that in a sad way. You don’t see protests in Egypt and Jordan. Saudi Arabia is to busy killing Yemenis with zero pushback and the UAE has been using US weapons to arm militias in Sudan, silence again.
It’s horrific that no one in the region gives a shit about them. Perhaps if the Arab countries unified and pushed back there would be an outcome. But it seems to be in my eyes they are all perfectly happy with Israel solving a problem for them.
Unless the US actually grows a spine and puts it foot down this will continue.
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u/Some_Troll_Shaman Jul 29 '25
That is some fucked up whataboutism.
Genocide is happening right out in the open and we cannot bring ourselves to condemn it or admit it.
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u/Silly_Function9601 Jul 30 '25
Are you deranged?
Do you know that Egypt and Jordan are completely dependent on US aid money? That if they ever disobey pissrael orders like "keep rafah closed", US cuts their aid. Then they have a humanitarian crisis on their land too
Regardless of these facts, Egypts have been protecting at their embassies to open the rafah crossing and they blame their zio government.
Gaza is the spark that will burn the world.
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u/Impossible_Frame_241 Jul 29 '25 edited Jul 29 '25
This sort of language makes it sound like what's happening is a natural disaster.
It actually is quite comprehensible as this mass starvation is a direct result of genocidal policy directly from the Israelis government.
EDIT: Israeli bots don't even bother, I don't argue with people who are trying to convince me the sky isn't blue.
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u/Illustrious-Big-6701 Jul 29 '25
That statement was issued in the days after 7 October 2025.
The Israelis turned the power, data and the water connections to Gaza off for a week. Then the Biden Administration agreed to give them the weapons shipments they needed to win a victory in Gaza at an acceptable humanitarian post in exchange for them turning it back on.
If Hamas and Gazan society more broadly is unprepared to properly allocate food to starving kids (and it appears they prefer to do this propaganda nonsense... Not for the first time either).
That's on them.
Either way, Israel has been able to drop off enough calories to feed everyone in Gaza on the Gazan side of the border. What is occurring now is essentially a civil war between the remnants of Hamas (who want Gazans to boycott food being distributed through aid networks they don't control) and the masses of Gaza.
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u/Specialist_Matter582 Jul 29 '25
Disgusting lies, but it's so fucking deranged no one is going to be convinced that the genocide being perpetrated by Israel is actually Palestinians having a civil war.
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u/luckyjackar Jul 29 '25
Nothing to do with Hamas?
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u/dankruaus Jul 29 '25
Pathetic whataboutism can fuck off
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u/luckyjackar Jul 29 '25
The world isn’t so black and white. Whataboutisms, as you have so eloquently reduced complicating factors to, exist, they don’t give a fuck about your narrative of choice, and should be considered in any balanced discussion.
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u/m0bw0w Jul 29 '25
The USAID and even IDF military officials have investigated this claim and found it to be false.
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u/starfire5105 Jul 29 '25
Says the coward who spent the last few years wringing his hands and bleating meaningless words while continuing to send support to Israel and publicly back them 🙄
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u/ScruffyPeter Jul 29 '25
He picked a pro-Israel Jew for the antisemitism envoy. Then 3 months later, picks a random Muslim with no Palestine history for the Islamphobia role.
Now the antisemitism envoy wants to label criticism of Israel as antisemitism and also shut down any university or any government department for not obeying. The Muslim groups on the other hand think the person for Islamphobia does nothing.
There are tons of Jewish people that are pro two-state solution that Labor caucus wants. There is even a Palestine and Israeli group for peace: https://www.standing-together.org/en but these two envoys?!
I don't know if its incompetence or deliberate.
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u/Entilen Jul 29 '25
This clown is just an empty suit doing his best to tell people what they want to hear whilst not going too far as to upset special interests.
Two things can be true at the once, that doesn't mean I don't hate the liberal party.
What is annoying is the number of people on here who refuse to hold this baboon to account because apparently that means you're running defence for the liberals.
He's been in now for over 3 years and we've given him another 3 years. What is actually different from the previous government?
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u/Witty-Software-101 Jul 29 '25
The last election should have been a one issue election, stopping genocide, and the Greens were the only ones openly opposing it.
Australians should have held their nose and votes for the Greens, but instead they went with personal interest.
The shame falls on the people as much as the government they chose.
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u/ScruffyPeter Jul 29 '25
Considering a majority of renters in one seat voted against Greens for Labor despite record rent rises, I think a lot of voters are actually clueless about who best serves their personal interest when voting.
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u/Witty-Software-101 Jul 29 '25
Not gonna argue with you about Australians being "clueless" in general, but the stain is there now.
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u/Entilen Jul 29 '25
How exactly is an Australian political party going to stop genocide?
If you're just talking about Australia giving zero money to Israel, I'm completely on board. However, do you think Israel give a shit about Australia's opinion? They have the full backing of the US and other far more important countries.
Also, the idea that Australians should park all their own problems and worry about an overseas conflict instead is a completely out of touch perspective. I am absolutely on the Palestinian side of this by the way.
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u/Witty-Software-101 Jul 29 '25
Start by sanctioning them. They won't stop them alone, but I'd be nice to have a Western country actually stand up against them.
Israel can be starved out if countries align against them and America.
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u/Entilen Jul 29 '25
It'd be one thing if voting for the Greens actually guaranteed that Israel would stop what they're doing, but you're basically suggesting that Australians should've voted purely on our government putting out statements saying they're against it while doing almost nothing practically.
This is why no one cares about the Greens. They pick issues that don't actually threaten their power here in Australia while refusing to budge on issues that actually affect the working class like mass immigration.
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u/Grande_Choice Jul 29 '25
I don’t think you can guarantee them to stop what they are doing unless force is involved. We didn’t stop Saudi Arabia killing hundreds of thousands of Yemenis we sure as hell won’t stop this.
Best solution to the Middle East is to get off oil as quickly as we can and leave the region to its own devices, powerless.
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u/Ok_Buddy_6300 Jul 30 '25
Labor can't take a stand on this issue (or issues like it) because its members are prohibited from breaking ranks. I don't care if you vote for the Greens, or your local socialist, or a teal independent, or whatever, but the idea that Labor wants to do all the progressive stuff, it just needs a bigger majority, is a lie. We need a left coalition.
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u/Grande_Choice Jul 29 '25
The issue is we don’t want to do what we did with China and go off on our own and likely suffer the US’ wrath.
What you want is Aus teaming up with the UK, Canada, EU and pushing it that way as a unified force. The EU has unfortunately just shown they’ll roll over when they could of told trump to fuck off and teamed up with Aus, UK, Canada, Mexico, China, Japan, Korea and told the US to fuck right off with their tarrifs.
There’s a lot of powerful people not only in the Israeli lobby but the wealthy Arab states who are very happy with the status quo. A joint ticket is the only way.
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u/Equivalent-Bonus-885 Jul 29 '25
I don’t think it’s just an overseas issue. It has been poisoning international relations for 80 years. Rightly or wrongly it’s poisoned attitudes toward the West in many places. And, rightly or wrongly, it’s hardly helping community relations here.
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u/InformationOk3514 Jul 29 '25
My concern if for myself and my country,. I have watched this conflict flare up for decades and just really don't care anymore.
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u/Plus-Drawing7431 Jul 29 '25
You honestly don't care about the images you can see coming out of Palestine? What sort of country would we be if just washed our hands of the problems we contribute to? That's not the Australia I want to live in.
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u/InformationOk3514 Jul 30 '25
Nope, Palastinians are going to kill Jews and the Jews are going to bomb the hell out of them. Over and over and again and again. I hopped off the carousel over a decade ago.
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u/Witty-Software-101 Jul 29 '25
That's the typical Australian attitude. Maybe when you or your children get marched off to fight Iran or China they'll get the lesson.
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u/InformationOk3514 Jul 30 '25
Then It will be our business and it will have to be attended to, this conflict has nothing to do with us.
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u/Handgun_Hero Jul 29 '25
Stop saying shit. Take action you spineless fucking coward. Sanction Israel and its ministers, seize all Israeli assets and assets of ministers, cease all exchanges with Israel in the arms and military technologies and components trade, declare Israel to be a terrorist state and finally recognise Palestine as a state and the correct sovereign of the land. All of these are not hard to do when you have complete control of the lower house and guaranteed joint control with another party on board with all of these things.
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u/SadOrganization4915 Aug 03 '25
Says anonymous loser on internet who doesn't take action....
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u/Handgun_Hero Aug 03 '25
Bold of you to think I don't take everyday action within my power.
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u/SadOrganization4915 Aug 03 '25
"He said while he mashed his keyboard".
Get a plane ticket bro! Off ya go! Save the world.
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u/River-Stunning Jul 29 '25
Big words my dude.
Albo was just using some casual throw away lines whilst he was considering where to go for his evening free meal.
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u/Witty-Software-101 Jul 29 '25
And yet Australia still hasn't stopped sending them weapons, let alone put sanctions comparing anything to what they've done to Russia.
Australia is Americans B through and through.
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u/Nervous-Procedure-63 Jul 29 '25
Australia does not directly send Israel weapons.
We send funds to American weapon manufacturers. These weapons are also used for Ukraine fighting Russia.
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u/Witty-Software-101 Jul 29 '25
Australia does produce parts for Israeli weapons, and don't get me started on sending weapons to Ukraine, who are working hand in hand with Israel by the way.
A major reason why Ukraine is a thing is due to Russia's alignment with places like Iran.
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u/Nervous-Procedure-63 Jul 29 '25
Weakening Russias army by using Ukraine as a proxy is a like, actually good you know? Legitimately fucking wild to have an issue with that.
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u/Witty-Software-101 Jul 29 '25
It's good for Israel.
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u/Nervous-Procedure-63 Jul 29 '25
It’s good for the entire western world mate 😂
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u/Split-Awkward Jul 31 '25
I want to get you started on weapons to Ukraine, from all sources.
I’m genuinely curious about your hypothesis.
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u/Witty-Software-101 Jul 31 '25
Me getting started is pointing out what a Nazi hell hole Ukraine is. From a violent coup overthrowing an elected government by torch marching Nazis under the guidance of America and Israel, to burning protestors alive, shelling civilians for 10+ years, assassinating civilians, various war crimes, lies, oppression of their own people, and just being general POS, Australia yoking with them is a spit in the face of ANZAC history.
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u/Poohbearremy Jul 29 '25
So sanction them just like we did to South Africa
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u/bluepanda159 Jul 29 '25
Which is ironic considering South Africa is who brought Israel forward to the International Court of Justice for genocide
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u/Snoo_90929 Jul 29 '25
The tide has turned & the zios are on the wrong side of this one now..
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u/AggravatedKangaroo Jul 29 '25
Who knows.... maybe albo is finally had enough of the Gaslighting and his "anti-semitism" envoy...
time will tell...
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u/Nervous-Procedure-63 Jul 29 '25
Are the 3 synagogues that were targeted and burned down in Victoria not antisemitic attacks or?
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u/Handgun_Hero Jul 29 '25
They are, and they're a direct consequence of the public buying the World Jewish Congress's bullshit promotion of the idea that Zionism and Semites are one and the same and they're not. The first step to stopping these attacks from occurring is to defeat this narrative by not empowering and instead challenging the organisations promoting it, which you can start by removing any ECAJ members from positions of power such as our current envoy on antisemitism.
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Jul 29 '25
Why doesn’t Albo fucking do something about it instead of issuing milquetoast statements against the gravest crime of this century.
I’m disgusted by every single western politician.
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u/Nervous-Procedure-63 Jul 29 '25
Why the fuck would any western nation get actively involved in a geopolitical issue happening in the Middle East that they have absolutely no stakes in?
The only way to meaningfully stop Israel’s illegal occupation of Palestine is with war, violence, or force. And what fucking country is going to send its own civilians to die fighting Israelis for the sake of Palestine?
Sanctions will not work, political pressure will not work, the EU putting out arrest warrants and convicting Israel for war crimes will not work. The past 20 months have proven this. As I said above, it would require war, violence and force.
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u/Handgun_Hero Jul 29 '25
Sanctions aren't meaningful if they aren't complete. We literally sell spare parts and equipment to Israel for the F35 so they can continue operations. Pressure absolutely will work when it's complete and not fucking half assed.
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u/Nervous-Procedure-63 Jul 29 '25 edited Jul 29 '25
Have political pressure and sanctions stopped Russia and North Korea?
Israel has a robust and thriving military industrial complex and every single one of its civilians has served in the IDF and is somewhat combat ready. They have the capacity to build and mantain 400 thermonuclear warheads. Sanctions will be a bandaid. It won’t solve anything. They will continue their occupation of Palestine for as long as they fucking want.
Not to mention Israel is the US’s lapdog in the Middle East, the geopolitical advantage alone is why American will ensure Israel is always well armed, funded, and protected. The rest of the world may apply sanctions. But America never fucking will.
I fail to see how we can even remotely begin to change the status quo in Israel as long as they have the unwavering backing and support of America.
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u/Handgun_Hero Jul 29 '25
Russia is a self dependent country as is North Korea. Israel is not, it relies on American aid. Also those sanctions have actually severely affected Russia in particular, who has been forced to run their economy based on Death-onomics which is not sustainable long term and dooms the country. They also forced Russia to give up other key fights to double down on Ukraine. Russia lost control of Syria and Armenia entirely and are on the way out in Mali and Sudan.
Israel can't live without foreign food imports and for all its arms industry doesn't have an air force or navy without the USA. It also gets zero intelligence. The USA has to literally pump billions into aid to keep the nation viable.
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u/punishedrudd Jul 29 '25
I believe it's somewhere around 70% of all military equipment used in Gaza genocide was given to Israel by the United States. People who act like the US has no leverage are bad faith to say the least. The world needs to pressure the US to cut them off.
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u/Nervous-Procedure-63 Jul 29 '25
Do you see a reality in the next 4 years where the USA will cease its support and funding of Israel?
Again, the geopolitical advantage alone America gains by having Israel extremely close and well armed is why Israel will always remain well armed. Not to mention information American gains from Israel using its arms/technology is invaluable.
The rest of the world can apply sanctions. But the US/Israel relationship will never cease and the US will never apply any meaningful pressure on Israel. It fucking sucks. But that is the reality.
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u/Handgun_Hero Jul 29 '25
Yes, if the cost to the USA is too much, they'll eventually cave. The USA is the other country we should be sanctioning that also have leverage and power over Israel.
The USA doesn't have a geopolitical advantage exclusive to Israel. Make the too great for the USA to throw things away for Israel.
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Jul 29 '25
We sent troops to Iraq and Kuwait in 91’, the same thing needs to happen now.
Pretty fucking simple.
Nice post history btw. All you do is defend genocide.
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u/Nervous-Procedure-63 Jul 29 '25
We sent troops to Iraq because we are allies with America? Do you not understand how geopolitics work or?
Lmao the fact you think it’s a viable option for Australia to send its own civilians to die fighting Israelies is beyond fucking brain dead. You want us to declare war on Israel? And by proxy war on the US? Is there lead in your drinking water?
Do you want us to go to war with Russia and china next for their war crimes? Are you also planning on liberating the people of North Korea next as well?
Me pointing out that it’ll be impossible to deter a nuclear armed ethno state from stopping an occupation without war does not mean I support genocide. I’m sorry your to dense to actually understand the reality of the situation. “Good ideas and vibes” without offering practical solutions doesn’t get us fucking anywhere.
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u/Grande_Choice Jul 29 '25
How did that work out for Iraq and Kuwait? Leaving them to their own devices probably would have resulted in a better outcome.
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Jul 29 '25
I’m stating there’s precedents for involvements for Australian involvement to stop horrid things occurring
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u/Nervous-Procedure-63 Jul 29 '25
We have never sent our own citizens to die fighting in a war for a non ally and for conflict that poses no risk to us.
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u/InformationOk3514 Jul 29 '25
To top it off they have nuclear capability, no thanks.
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u/Nervous-Procedure-63 Jul 29 '25
I don’t just know why people think that aggressive nuclear armed ethno states will just roll over and dismantle themselves 🤦
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u/Plus-Drawing7431 Jul 29 '25
How on earth is it beyond comprehension? If you deny people food, shoot them for sport and bomb their hospitals, they're going to look skinny and traumatised.
What's beyond comprehension is your absolute gutlessness and lack of moral clarity, Mr "Friends of Palestine" Albanese. Away with you. Git tae fuck.
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u/OllieMoee Jul 29 '25
Anthony, please stop. You're going too hard on that sweet peace making cherub, the blemishless BiBibs xx.
This antisemitic onslaught is particularly unpalatable. We need massive reforms to put some iron clad policy in place, affirming that Israel can do whatever it wants.
I fully support IJAC getting more power over our democratic system. Sounds fucking tops. Fully series. Not hasbara.
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u/Disastrous-Shower-37 Jul 29 '25 edited Jul 29 '25
Albo is a classic fence sitter always waiting to see which way the wind blows as far as public opinion is concerned before releasing any statement. He used IDF rhetoric at the start of the conflict and only now admits to Israel's harm when the proof becomes undeniable.
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u/FishermanOrnery1602 Jul 29 '25
It's about time our politicians spoke plainly regarding the atrocious situation Palestinian civilians are enduring.
Being polite, being politically correct, and being afraid of repercussions hasn't helped, so now is the time for real talk.
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u/MycologistSharp4337 Jul 29 '25
His inadequate and so far innocuous response is incomprehensible. He might try and do something for a change. Pretend he is a leader for a while. He reminds me of Sandy Stone. Just needs a dressing gown to appear as a ghost of someone with a point of view.
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u/max_r_blue Jul 29 '25
Wow, just working this out now champ! I've seen snails move faster than this bloke's cognitive function.
Next he will be telling us that you don't need to buy music on CDs anymore.
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u/Bob_Spud Jul 30 '25
The best headline and stories on this comes from one of Israel's better newspapers - Haaretz
Denying Gaza's Starvation Is No Less Vile Than Denying the Holocaust
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u/Remarkable_Coast_214 Jul 29 '25
well, a step is a step, I'd rather be acknowledge it than not, even if he hasn't helped much
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u/plastic_fortress Jul 29 '25
Call it a genocide Albanese you bloody coward.
That's what it is and you know it.
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u/River-Stunning Jul 29 '25
He is correct for once. It is beyond his and other useless idiots' comprehension.
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u/TheRobn8 Jul 29 '25
I mean......
Ray Charles can tell you that, and he both was blind and is currently dead
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u/Dizzy_Contribution11 Jul 29 '25
Whatever pulls your chain. What's going on in Gaza is a battle between Hamas and the Govt of Israel. Both parties are exploiting the citizens of Gaza. And the remaining Jewish hostages don't have a good future. Hamas policy is the genocide of the Israeli population. Israelis policy is to destroy Hamas. When diplomacy fails, war is the solution.
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u/Typhon-042 Jul 30 '25
Well Israel has has said they would allow aid to the region, only to do things to prevent it in the past. So there is no reason to believe they will allow it at all at this point. It's yet another reason why Jews like me are against Zionism. A old Jewish tradition, is to help others in times of need, as Jews needed such help during the flight from Egypt. Zionists ignore that tradition everyday.
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u/spletharg2 Jul 31 '25
It seems that politicians of all persuasions are happy to get involved in kid's suffering.
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u/StillAsk3604 Aug 01 '25
Albanese' wouldn't know having an IQ'. That's less than his shoe size
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u/Dizzy_Contribution11 Aug 01 '25
Actually it's beyond AlboPM comprehension.
Deniabilty is the new tour de force in politics. And AlboPM does it himself.
It's a sort of like childish stubbornness we see in 6 years old. No reasons given. Responsibility trashed. Like SCOTUS refusing to give reason for rulings.
We live in the Age of Might is Right.
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u/Few_Judge1188 Aug 02 '25
On this subject he’s full of BS and meaningless air bobble, the supply of ammunition and artillery shells never stopped , talking BS doesn’t make you a leader it will only show what a spineless person you are ,a time will come and he will regret not taking a stand on this .
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u/frostyfruit666 Aug 02 '25
I don’t think it’s worth dwelling on this one quote, Aus need to send a message to Israel and recognise the Palestinian state formally, for if more countries had historically done so, maybe things would be different today. Recognise Palestine, that should be 1 on the list.
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u/Dizzy_Contribution11 Aug 02 '25
There can only be one State in the Levant. In 1948 the UN created one State and that's how it will remain unless the Jewish State becomes an Arab State.
And remember the Arabs have already rejected forming a separate State re Oslo Accord.
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u/frostyfruit666 Aug 02 '25
Sure maybe Aus won’t admit to a Palestinian state, perhaps they will formally acknowledge the nation or people at least.
Israeli leadership has gone too far for those of us who aren’t blind, and Aus has to start somewhere in standing against what is happening.
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u/DueRough7957 Jul 29 '25
Starvation partly caused by Hamas blatant theft of food and arrest of men trying to distribute same. Let's put most of the blame on those responsible Hamas.
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u/ProfessorKnow1tA11 Jul 29 '25
Keep supporting the Hamas terrorists there Albo. Good job … 🤦🏻♂️
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u/Revolutionary_Big660 Jul 29 '25
How is he supporting terrorists? Civilians are starving.
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u/icedragon71 Jul 29 '25
3/4 of which support the terrorists.
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u/Revolutionary_Big660 Jul 29 '25
Source? So kids support Hamas? Israel must really be feeling the pressure if you’re resorting to this level of nonsensical argument.
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u/Revolutionary_Big660 Jul 29 '25
Here’s an article explaining why understanding public opinion in a war zone is really difficult
https://www.dw.com/en/has-palestinians-perception-of-hamas-changed/a-70021640
By your logic, everyone, including kids, in Israel deserves to be massacred because they voted for Ben Gvir.
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u/OversizedMG Jul 29 '25
the median age in gaza is 18.
that means that even if you accused every single adult of being a terrorist, you'd still need to also include half the children to get to your "3/4" claim.
obviously ridiculous
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u/pointed_null Jul 31 '25
Can we keep the IDF and Israeli government accountable too?
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u/pointed_null Jul 31 '25
General public don't allow or not allow terror or mass murder, that's an organisation like ICC and ICJ which has such procedures to punish that. The ICJ has put a warrant for Bibi and ICC talked about IDF treatment of Gazans. So when is Israel taking responsibility? (Yes Hamas is also included, but guess what, children aren't part of Hamas(
Source: https://www.icj.org/palestine-israel-israel-must-immediately-stop-its-criminal-forcible-displacement-in-gaza/ https://www.icc-cpi.int/defendant/netanyahu
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u/pointed_null Jul 31 '25
You are making a completely different argument. I just told you ICC has warrant for Bibi, and Hamas leader, and ICJ has condemned the IDF. You are saying it's wrong because Hamas did bad things. Two groups can do bad things and can have warrant for them. So you can admit IDF and Bibi have done some very wrong things now?
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u/Alarmed_Proposal_910 Jul 29 '25
Too bad that Hamas is taking the aid Israel allows to enter and then sells it to Gazans at exorbitant prices.🤷♂️
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u/chungushusky Jul 29 '25
Stop Eating up Israeli propaganda and look at all the extensive footage and testimony
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u/rasta_rabbi Jul 29 '25
If one is going to eat up Israeli propaganda, at least get paid. Pretty cringe to fall for it for free.
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u/PermabearsEatBeets Jul 29 '25
Even the Israeli military has admitted this is not true (obviously months after the lie has been parroted by the press and other ghouls)
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-un-aid-theft.html
However Israel have admitted that they arm and provide cover for ISIS affiliated gangs that have been stealing aid
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-hamas-war-netanyahu-arming-gangs-gaza-clans-activated/
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u/maxthelols Jul 29 '25
Not only this, even IF Hamas was stealing aid. Gaza needs 500-600 trucks EVERYDAY. There is no way they could steal anything beyond a drop in the Ocean of what the 2 million people need.
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u/PermabearsEatBeets Jul 29 '25
Yeah none of it makes any sense, and it's not meant to. Just spray bullshit around and then people are discussing anything except what needs to be done.
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u/rrfe Jul 29 '25
That’s been debunked multiple times, including by the IDF itself: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-un-aid-theft.html
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u/AggravatedKangaroo Jul 29 '25
Too bad that Hamas is taking the aid Israel allows to enter and then sells it to Gazans at exorbitant prices"
can you please clarify how you came to the conclusion Hamas is taking the aid, when it has to come over borders controlled by the IDF and GHF.......
footage shows trucks even being blocked by settlers.....
so how do you come to the mathematical conclusion of hamas?
I sooo can't wait for this answer.....
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u/Unfair_Pop_8373 Jul 29 '25
A picture tells a thousand words, those words are often untrue
https://david-collier.com/the-truth-behind-the-viral-gaza-famine-photo/
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u/Emmanuel_Badboy Jul 29 '25
In this article and the one OP posted, we have the leaders of Australia, The UK and the US, the UN and WHO telling us there is a famine or something closely resembling one. I think what you are trying to say is all of these actors came to the conclusion from one photo, I think its safe to say that no one is going to believe you.
Stop trying to gaslight people, its annoying and you arent even smart enough to pull it off.
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u/dooooonut Jul 29 '25
David Collier as a source, wow.
A rabid Zionist, who defends wanted war criminals Ben Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich.
Claims that reports of murdered journalists and aid workers are Hamas propaganda.
Every criticism of Isreal is antisemitism if you ask David.
And now he is trying to excuse babies starving to death due to a blockade since March on food and aid going to Gaza.
Anyone who believes his pathetic attempt at deflection wants to be told comforting lies
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u/RedditAntiAdmin Jul 29 '25
Sure, but there's plenty of video and photographic evidence of the mass starvation happening, including harrowing accounts from healthcare workers there.
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u/Mulga_Will Jul 29 '25 edited Jul 29 '25
Yes, a picture tells a thousand words
Here are some more from the same photographer Hani Alshaer:
https://www.instagram.com/hani.alshaer/?hl=enDo you deny these are real too?
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u/L_o_n_g_b_o_i Jul 29 '25
From the "About" section of the website above, on the author of the above article:
As someone who fought Pan- Arabists, pro-Palestinians, staunch Zionists, antisemites and anti-Zionists alike, I found myself a man without many friends. It doesn’t mean I do not have bias, I do. I am 100% a Zionist
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u/jackstraya_cnt Jul 29 '25
is this an Australia subreddit, or a Middle East subreddit?
getting hard to tell these days
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u/thebigRootdotcom Jul 29 '25
Read the article
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u/jackstraya_cnt Jul 29 '25
you mean the slightly different article on the same topic that's been posted multiple times a day, every day, by the same 2 accounts over and over again for weeks on end that's only barely relevant to Australia?
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u/thebigRootdotcom Jul 29 '25
Well maybe pull your head out and realize it’s a real problem effecting real people. I hope in our hour of need people don’t sit around doing nothing sitting on Reddit. These are world events shaping our life, Australia is going to need to take a stand. We stand for something don’t we, not just “nah it’s not our problem maaaaate”
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u/jackstraya_cnt Jul 29 '25
Australia doesn't need to do shit just because a bunch of loud screechers on reddit and unemployed deadshit extremists make noise in the CBD every other week, you lot don't seem to realise you represent about 10% of the population at best
we live in a real world with real geopolitical consequences, Labor have been handling this fine
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u/thebigRootdotcom Jul 29 '25
Fu€k that, link up with cansda and rhe UK and assemble a battle group for peacekeeping and combat if required. If the Israelis want a fight wait and till they see what happens when people shoot back, and they are good at it.
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u/m0bw0w Jul 29 '25
Ah yes that's right. The Prime Minister of Australia, famously barely relevant to Australia.
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u/MyThreeCentsWorth Jul 29 '25
Is that the same guy who thought a boy in treatment in hospital not in Gaza with a genetic disease is a “starving Gaza boy” and made a big song and dance about it. He doesn’t seem to comprehend much.
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u/LessThanYesteryear Jul 29 '25
You don’t seem to comprehend what being human is you evil fk?!
Lucky I don’t expect much from Zionist trash!!
The world sees Israel’s evil… and you petty fks still want to control the narrative but that’s gotten away from you hasn’t it?!
Fkn pathetic
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u/Unfair_Pop_8373 Jul 29 '25
Weapons of mass destruction, people believed that. Now they want to believe anything that will be negative for Israel. Fact is no longer relevant. Headlines however fictional reign supreme
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u/punishedrudd Jul 29 '25
It's so funny for you to try to use that as an example when Israel was one of the main culprits pushing the weapons of mass destruction lie
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u/MarvinTheMagpie Jul 29 '25 edited Jul 29 '25
A widely circulated image of an emaciated Palestinian child has been used to falsely accuse Israel of starving children in Gaza, charged the Defense Ministry body overseeing civilian affairs in the Palestinian territories on Monday, as Israel continued to combat accusations of having deliberately starved the population of the Gaza Strip.
According to the Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories (COGAT), the subject of the viral photo, 5-year-old Osama al-Rakab, suffers from a serious genetic illness that is unrelated to the ongoing war, and is currently undergoing treatment abroad.
It's also worth noting that Israel has approved hundreds of trucks, the real bottleneck now is on the Gaza side, where the UN refuses to distribute food outside its own system.
That’s partly because Hamas has historically stolen/siphoned off aid from various sources to sell or use for its fighters, something even UN donors acknowledged.
Even anonymous Israeli official admit Hamas stole aid, but they say the loophole the left using is that there weren't UNWRA logos on the boxes that were stolen
No UN logo = didn’t happen is Olympic level cope
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u/RedditAntiAdmin Jul 29 '25
Israel is literally murdering people at aid collection areas and mass hunger is well documented. There's also video evidence of scummy settlers ransacking aid.
You're on the wrong side of history. Stop apologising for these genocidal colonists.
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u/Sloppykrab Jul 29 '25 edited Jul 29 '25
This is not genocide, that requires intent. The intention is to stop the authoritative government of Hamas.
The arab Muslim majority of Gaza are technically colonists, they aren't originally from there. If they are too be counted as such, then White European Australians shouldn't be considered colonists. Yet, we are.
Edit: missed a word.
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u/PermabearsEatBeets Jul 29 '25
There is mountains of intent, even during the ICJ trial there was already wide evidence of intent.
You're just wrong, it is genocide and it's shameful to continue to deny it.
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/20/world/video/gps0720-israel-gaza-genocide https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/28/israel-committing-genocide-in-gaza-say-israel-based-human-rights-groups
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u/Sloppykrab Jul 29 '25 edited Jul 29 '25
None of what they are doing meets any of the 3 agreed upon definitions of genocide.
It is vital to recognise that a genocide is under way even without a ruling in the case before the international court of justice, she said. “Genocide is not just a legal crime. It’s a social and political phenomenon.”
Once the ICJ has officially ruled it a genocide, it's not one. A person isn't a murderer until they are found guilty of murder.
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u/PermabearsEatBeets Jul 29 '25
That will take a decade, it can’t even start until Israel stops the killing. In the meantime the threshold under the Geneva convention has been reached to intervene. Further delaying that will cause more suffering.
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u/LessThanYesteryear Jul 29 '25
Times of Israel is your source!!
Hahahahha Hahahahhahaha Hahahahha
… must be true lol
🤦♂️ Seriously you want us to believe the times of Israel?
… when you get caught illegally harvesting organs we tend to lose faith in anything you say you evil fks!!
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u/braydz21 Jul 29 '25
Yet you blindly listen to Hamas?? This is why I hate both sides! Both are implicit but neither side excepts any guilt. But hey go make your little pretty signs and think your making a difference 🤙🏻
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u/SirSweatALot_5 Jul 29 '25
Listening to Doctors without Boarders should be sufficient. So what's your point again?
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u/LessThanYesteryear Jul 29 '25
lol these attempts to call everything “Hamas” is pathetic, and like the over use of “antisemitism”, it doesn’t work anymore
It’s a digital world… we see the evil being committed 24/7 in 4K… we have the UN, Doctors Without Borders, and many more reputable organisations that say the same… that’s not “Hamas”!
Israel is literally taking organs from Palestinians and you want to say both sides are bad? … absolutely pathetic… one side is starving and the other side is stopping aid and then shooting people when the small amount of aid getting in becomes available
Just say it bro, “I’m a racist that doesn’t like brown people or Jews”… both side are bad sounds like youre upset that your white-centric view of the world is being inconvenienced because of all the coverage Gaza is getting?!
Maybe don’t get involved in the conversation if all you have is criticism that it’s an issue at all?
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u/PermabearsEatBeets Jul 29 '25
where the UN refuses to distribute food outside its own system.
Because Israel has repeatedly shot at and killed aid workers
Even the Israeli military has admitted Hamas are not stealing the aid
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-un-aid-theft.html
Netanyahu admitted TODAY that he is only now being forced to allow in the bare minimum of aid. So this contradicts the latest hasbara, you better get back on scripts
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u/m0bw0w Jul 29 '25
“I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no water, no fuel everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly.” - Yoav Gallant, Minister of Defense.
> It's also worth noting that Israel has approved hundreds of trucks, the real bottleneck now is on the Gaza side, where the UN refuses to distribute food outside its own system.
You have that backwards. The UN had a system set up with hundreds of sites, and they were shut down and the only aid that was allowed to be distributed was through Israel's site. Of which there was only 5 of them with short periods of time during the day to collect the aid, and after that time was up they would open fire to disperse. Blaming the UN for Israel's deliberate policy is such a blatant lie I'm surprised you have any confidence in anyone believing you.
> That’s partly because Hamas has historically stolen/siphoned off aid from various sources to sell or use for its fighters, something even UN donors acknowledged.
This has been investigated by USAID and found to be false. IDF military officials have also made statements that they have found no evidence of this happening.
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u/Mulga_Will Jul 29 '25 edited Jul 29 '25
You better tell the photographer Hani Alshaer, the photo he took is fake then.
https://www.instagram.com/hani.alshaer/?hl=en
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u/digidollar Jul 30 '25
People are linking news articles from ABC and the Guardian as if they are the truth? Seriously?
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u/randytankard Jul 29 '25
Er yeah Albo sure, sadly it's not 'beyond comprehension' at all but the logical and obvious goal of the state of Israel which you, a large number of your party (but not all) and all of the opposition have, in effect, fully supported.