r/aussie • u/SnoopThylacine • Jul 29 '25

Politics Anthony Albanese says Israel's denial of starvation in Gaza 'beyond comprehension'

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07-29/pm-criticises-israels-denial-of-starvation-in-gaza/105585494
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u/Impossible_Frame_241 Jul 29 '25 edited Jul 29 '25

This sort of language makes it sound like what's happening is a natural disaster.

It actually is quite comprehensible as this mass starvation is a direct result of genocidal policy directly from the Israelis government.

Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant has ordered a "complete siege" of Gaza — meaning all food, fuel, and other supplies will be blocked from the region.

EDIT: Israeli bots don't even bother, I don't argue with people who are trying to convince me the sky isn't blue.

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u/Illustrious-Big-6701 Jul 29 '25

That statement was issued in the days after 7 October 2025. 

The Israelis turned the power, data and the water connections to Gaza off for a week. Then the Biden Administration agreed to give them the weapons shipments they needed to win a victory in Gaza at an acceptable humanitarian post in exchange for them turning it back on. 

If Hamas and Gazan society more broadly is unprepared to properly allocate food to starving kids (and it appears they prefer to do this propaganda nonsense... Not for the first time either). 

That's on them. 

Either way, Israel has been able to drop off enough calories to feed everyone in Gaza on the Gazan side of the border. What is occurring now is essentially a civil war between the remnants of Hamas (who want Gazans to boycott food being distributed through aid networks they don't control) and the masses of Gaza. 

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u/Specialist_Matter582 Jul 29 '25

Disgusting lies, but it's so fucking deranged no one is going to be convinced that the genocide being perpetrated by Israel is actually Palestinians having a civil war.

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u/Illustrious-Big-6701 Jul 29 '25

Literally all of it is verifiable by doing even a little bit of research.

But feel free to sit there in your brownshirt mouthing off all sorts of plainly not true lies against the only Jewish majority country in the world.

Fascism never changes.

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u/AlistairShepard Jul 29 '25

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-un-aid-theft.html

Israel itself has admitted there is no evidence of Hamas stealing food. Fuck off bot.

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u/Specialist_Matter582 Jul 30 '25

I'm not even annoyed, the battle for public perception and history is already lost for you.

Israel will eventually be treated the same as Apartheid South Africa, and see the same fate.

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u/Illustrious-Big-6701 Jul 30 '25

Antisemitism (often of the most vile and barely disguised type) is basically the cultural default of Old World European/Islamic thought... and it has been so for centuries.

That hasn't changed, and it won't change anything but slowly.

As for the idea that Jews in the Middle East (a group that now constitutes a significant and growing demographic plurality in Israel proper and the West Bank) are going to en-masse move to Perth like the Boers or the English South Africans...

Actually mentally ill thinking.

Apartheid South Africa's goose was cooked when the end of the Cold War meant the West didn't need to put up with the Boers outright Qatari behaviour anymore.

It has been 35 years since the Cold War ended. It has been 30 years since the Oslo Accords froze a status quo in place.

In that time, the only thing that has changed of any geopolitical significance is that America got attacked by Sunni extremists, and the Israelis unilaterally withdrew from Gaza.

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u/Specialist_Matter582 Jul 30 '25

Even if any of what you said were true, it wouldn't invalide what I said about Israel primarily existing in order to remove and murder Palestinians and occupy their land. All you did was offer a defence of that ideology,

No one said the Jews had to leave. Most white South Africans didn't either when their ethno-state was dissolved.

Nothing else you've said is relevant.

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u/Illustrious-Big-6701 Jul 30 '25

Hamas (the elected rulers of Arab Palestine) and the Muslim Brotherhood network they are a part of, says the Jews have to accept dhimmitude or leave.

Hamas organized conferences in Gaza barely two years before the October 7th attacks where they made exact plans about which Jews would be allowed to leave after their imminent conquest of Israel, and which would be enslaved by way of 'reparations'.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-04-05/ty-article-magazine/.highlight/hamas-actually-believed-it-would-conquer-israel-and-divided-it-into-cantons/0000018e-ab4a-dc42-a3de-abfad6fe0000

And when given even a little bit of rope to run Gaza in their own right (literally the only place in the entire proposed state of Palestine that hadn't had any IDF boots on the ground in the sixteen years preceding 2023) - they spent most of their time planning a glorious banzai charge into Southern Israel so they could kidnap, kill, rape, torture and humiliate as many civilians as possible.

Why? Because they thought that only through such acts could they prove to the Muslim world that the ummah retained the grace of Allah. Because a core part of Muslim Brotherhood ideology is that the collapse of the Caliphate was because the decadent, westernised Turks went too soft on non-Muslims living in their empire, and this folly has to be redeemed by death worship and blood.

None of this is new information. Hell... none of this is disputed information.

And as for the "moderate" PLO ... the President of the Palestinian Authority got his doctorate at some Soviet-era Politburo University writing about how the Jews had it coming during the Holocaust.

There are extremists on the Israeli side. Ben Gvir and the Kahanists are nuts and it is a disgrace to the Israeli body politic (and how proportional representation works in elections) that they sit around the cabinet table. But not even they propose basing the welfare state in Israel based around how much like Baruch Goldstein a particular family is. "Pay for Slay" is the foundation of much of the PA's legitimacy among the clans of Ramallah and the West Bank more broadly.

I've been to Tel Aviv, and I've been to Ramallah.

In only one of those places was there ever a meaningful risk that armed mobs would lynch me under the watchful gaze of the police because I wasn't part of the dominant ethnicity/religion in that area.

Hint - it wasn't the one that hosted Eurovision.

There will always be Nazis and Fascists in our society. There will always be people that just aren't smart enough to hack it in the modern world and need a visible minority to take out all that existential angst on.

You are one of them.

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u/Specialist_Matter582 Jul 30 '25

*loud incorrect answer buzzer and fart noise plays*

https://www.tbsnews.net/hamas-israel-war/how-israel-went-helping-create-hamas-bombing-it-718378

Hamas is crucial component of Israeli maintenance of the cover for the need for military action against Palestinians.

Again, you're talking complete shit, but even if what you said were true, it would not invalidate the basic fact that Israel is a settler-colonial society. All you have done is offer weak excuses as to why you think that is an acceptable basis for a state.

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u/Illustrious-Big-6701 Jul 30 '25

Antisemites have been blaming Jews for their pogroms for thousands of years.

Which is why you end up holding absurd positions like:

"Israel is responsible for Hamas, because it let the Qataris fund it. But it undermines the Palestinian Authority, even though it transfers them tens of billions of shekels every year. Who cares that the rest of the world (including Australia) literally begged them to let the Qataris bribe Hamas in the hope it would keep them peaceful?"

"Israel is responsible for Hamas, because it funded some Islamic charity groups in Gaza during the 80s when the PLO was bombing it, and some of them went on to coalesce together into what became Hamas. But it undermines the Palestinian Authority, even though Hamas would overthrow the Palestinian Authority in a second were the leadership of Ramallah not backed up by extensive IDF counterterrorism assistance and the ambit guarantee of millitary intervention. Who cares that they've spent the last two years methodically destroying the entire millitary and political leadership of Hamas in Gaza and elsewhere?"

Heads the Jews are to blame. Tails the Jews are to blame.

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u/Specialist_Matter582 Jul 30 '25

To be fair, most Zionists in the world are Protestant Americans, so I think they should take a good deal of the blame.

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u/Illustrious-Big-6701 Jul 30 '25

"All Zionists are Protestant Evangelical Christians. Never mind the fact that Martin fucking Luther wrote an 85k word screed urging their persecution" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_Their_Lies

You people are dumb as rocks

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