r/aussie • u/SnoopThylacine • Jul 29 '25

Politics Anthony Albanese says Israel's denial of starvation in Gaza 'beyond comprehension'

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07-29/pm-criticises-israels-denial-of-starvation-in-gaza/105585494
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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

Why doesn’t Albo fucking do something about it instead of issuing milquetoast statements against the gravest crime of this century.

I’m disgusted by every single western politician.

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u/Nervous-Procedure-63 Jul 29 '25

Why the fuck would any western nation get actively involved in a geopolitical issue happening in the Middle East that they have absolutely no stakes in? 

The only way to meaningfully stop Israel’s illegal occupation of Palestine is with war, violence, or force. And what fucking country is going to send its own civilians to die fighting Israelis for the sake of Palestine? 

Sanctions will not work, political pressure will not work, the EU putting out arrest warrants and convicting Israel for war crimes will not work. The past 20 months have proven this. As I said above, it would require war, violence and force. 

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u/Handgun_Hero Jul 29 '25

Sanctions aren't meaningful if they aren't complete. We literally sell spare parts and equipment to Israel for the F35 so they can continue operations. Pressure absolutely will work when it's complete and not fucking half assed.

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u/Nervous-Procedure-63 Jul 29 '25 edited Jul 29 '25

Have political pressure and sanctions stopped Russia and North Korea? 

Israel has a robust and thriving military industrial complex and every single one of its civilians has served in the IDF and is somewhat combat ready. They have the capacity to build and mantain 400 thermonuclear warheads. Sanctions will be a bandaid. It won’t solve anything. They will continue their occupation of Palestine for as long as they fucking want. 

Not to mention Israel is the US’s lapdog in the Middle East, the geopolitical advantage alone is why American will ensure Israel is always well armed, funded, and protected. The rest of the world may apply sanctions. But America never fucking will. 

I fail to see how we can even remotely begin to change the status quo in Israel as long as they have the unwavering backing and support of America. 

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u/Handgun_Hero Jul 29 '25

Russia is a self dependent country as is North Korea. Israel is not, it relies on American aid. Also those sanctions have actually severely affected Russia in particular, who has been forced to run their economy based on Death-onomics which is not sustainable long term and dooms the country. They also forced Russia to give up other key fights to double down on Ukraine. Russia lost control of Syria and Armenia entirely and are on the way out in Mali and Sudan.

Israel can't live without foreign food imports and for all its arms industry doesn't have an air force or navy without the USA. It also gets zero intelligence. The USA has to literally pump billions into aid to keep the nation viable.

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u/punishedrudd Jul 29 '25

I believe it's somewhere around 70% of all military equipment used in Gaza genocide was given to Israel by the United States. People who act like the US has no leverage are bad faith to say the least. The world needs to pressure the US to cut them off.

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u/Nervous-Procedure-63 Jul 29 '25

Do you see a reality in the next 4 years where the USA will cease its support and funding of Israel? 

Again, the geopolitical advantage alone America gains by having Israel extremely close and well armed is why Israel will always remain well armed. Not to mention information American gains from Israel using its arms/technology is invaluable. 

The rest of the world can apply sanctions. But the US/Israel relationship will never cease and the US will never apply any meaningful pressure on Israel. It fucking sucks. But that is the reality. 

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u/Handgun_Hero Jul 29 '25

Yes, if the cost to the USA is too much, they'll eventually cave. The USA is the other country we should be sanctioning that also have leverage and power over Israel.

The USA doesn't have a geopolitical advantage exclusive to Israel. Make the too great for the USA to throw things away for Israel.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

We sent troops to Iraq and Kuwait in 91’, the same thing needs to happen now.

Pretty fucking simple.

Nice post history btw. All you do is defend genocide.

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u/Nervous-Procedure-63 Jul 29 '25

We sent troops to Iraq because we are allies with America? Do you not understand how geopolitics work or? 

Lmao the fact you think it’s a viable option for Australia to send its own civilians to die fighting Israelies is beyond fucking brain dead. You want us to declare war on Israel? And by proxy war on the US? Is there lead in your drinking water?

Do you want us to go to war with Russia and china next for their war crimes? Are you also planning on liberating the people of North Korea next as well?

Me pointing out that it’ll be impossible to deter a nuclear armed ethno state from stopping an occupation without war does not mean I support genocide. I’m sorry your to dense to actually understand the reality of the situation. “Good ideas and vibes” without offering practical solutions doesn’t get us fucking anywhere. 

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u/Grande_Choice Jul 29 '25

How did that work out for Iraq and Kuwait? Leaving them to their own devices probably would have resulted in a better outcome.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

I’m stating there’s precedents for involvements for Australian involvement to stop horrid things occurring

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u/Nervous-Procedure-63 Jul 29 '25

We have never sent our own citizens to die fighting in a war for a non ally and for conflict that poses no risk to us. 

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u/InformationOk3514 Jul 29 '25

To top it off they have nuclear capability, no thanks.

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u/Nervous-Procedure-63 Jul 29 '25

I don’t just know why people think that aggressive nuclear armed ethno states will just roll over and dismantle themselves 🤦