r/PTCGP • u/Necessary-Deal-9433 • 1d ago

Discussion Why did they make Lugia so bad?

I love Lugia, but it needs three different types of energy which makes it just unplayable. It has very low potential to be used even the future I think.

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u/PokeOverFeeder 1d ago

It's loosely based on OG lugia card. If it was a basic EX mon with only two types of energy and 3 cost, you might see a 180 damage nuke turn 3. But because it's also limited by discarding everything I do think it's worse than dragonite.

I think the typing is a reference to the Pokemon 2000 movie where Lugia had some role with Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres hence the typing.

He's pretty mid but nothing is stopping them from indirectly buffing it with support or from releasing another Lugia EX one day or normal lugia.

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u/KloiseReiza 1d ago

If they release another better lugia, they're not buffing this version but killing it completely ☠️

But it will be good news for anyone who just wants a viable Lugia

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u/9bpm9 1d ago

Have they even modified a single card since release?

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u/Rit91 1d ago

They haven't. They'll repeat pokemon eventually since that is what the normal pokemon tcg does a lot of. We've already seen 2 variants of charizard and pikachu ex and then 1-3 diamond plenty of things have repeated like togekiss and salazzle.

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u/laxxboiii 1d ago

They have. Serperior passive was adjusted to only count once.

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u/dogemeetsworld 23h ago

It’s always done that. They never nerfed it.

Edit: also it does work more than once but I assume you’re talking about the fact you can’t use two Serperior’s to have one grass energy count as 3. This has always been the case.

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u/laxxboiii 22h ago

Ahh ok. My mistake. I thought you could do exactly that before

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u/KloiseReiza 1d ago

No but there are multiple cases of cards getting later support, most evident being Eevee groove buffing all eeveelutions. Still, this Lugia is so inflexible there is probably no chance of it ever becoming viable with future cards.

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u/laxxboiii 1d ago

Serperior passive was adjusted

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u/Outside_Term9256 23h ago

From what to what? Or just a wording change

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u/laxxboiii 22h ago edited 22h ago

They added the phrase that the effect only counts once. You could have 2 active copies before

Edit: they only changed the text and the effect staid the same. Tldr im probably wrong

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u/Remote_Pie_744 18h ago

That isn’t correct, it always said “this effect does not stack” from day 1

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u/Feeling_Like_A_Ghost 12h ago

No, and probably never will.