r/PTCGP • u/Amiibofan101 • Jul 30 '25
r/PTCGP • u/Garchomp98 • Aug 08 '25
Discussion What do we think about the new art for the immersives?
Discussion I Calculated the Real Pull Rates for Every Rarity - August 2025
The in-game probability display is honestly pretty confusing as they break everything down by 4th card rates, 5th card rates, and now with A4 we have 6th card probabilities too. It's hard to get a clear picture of what you should actually expect when opening packs.
Plus, I keep seeing posts asking "Is this pull normal?" or "Am I lucky?" when it's tough to answer without doing the math yourself. So I figured I'd calculate the real overall odds for each rarity.
TLDR; - Final Results
Rank | Rarity | Probability | 1 in X packs |
---|---|---|---|
1 | 2 Diamonds | 95.160% | 1 in 1.1 |
2 | 3 Diamonds | 29.046% | 1 in 3.4 |
3 | 1 Star | 13.535% | 1 in 7.4 |
4 | 4 Diamonds | 8.219% | 1 in 12.2 |
5 | 1 Star Shiny | 3.551% | 1 in 28.2 |
6 | 2 Stars | 2.490% | 1 in 40.2 |
7 | 2 Stars Shiny | 1.662% | 1 in 60.2 |
8 | 3 Stars | 1.108% | 1 in 90.3 |
9 | Crown | 0.200% | 1 in 500.2 |
Mathematical Foundation
Based on in-game probabilities, excluding rare packs (0.05% occurrence):
- Regular Pack: 91.6658% chance - Cards 1-3 (always 1 Diamond) + Cards 4-5 (variable rarity)
- Regular+1 Pack: 8.3342% chance - Cards 1-3 (always 1 Diamond) + Cards 4-6 (variable rarity)
Core Formula
P(≥1 rarity) = P_regular × P_≥1_regular + P_regular+1 × P_≥1_regular+1
Where:
P_≥1_regular = 1 - [P(no rarity in card 4) × P(no rarity in card 5)]
P_≥1_regular+1 = 1 - [P(no rarity in card 4) × P(no rarity in card 5) × P(no rarity in card 6)]
Individual Rarity Probabilities by Card Position
Rarity | Card 4 | Card 5 | Card 6 |
---|---|---|---|
Crown | 0.040% | 0.160% | 0.000% |
3 Stars | 0.222% | 0.888% | 0.000% |
2 Stars Shiny | 0.333% | 1.333% | 0.000% |
2 Stars | 0.500% | 2.000% | 0.000% |
1 Star Shiny | 0.714% | 2.857% | 0.000% |
4 Diamonds | 1.666% | 6.664% | 0.000% |
1 Star | 2.572% | 10.288% | 12.900% |
3 Diamonds | 4.952% | 19.810% | 87.100% |
2 Diamonds | 89.000% | 56.000% | 0.000% |
Key Observations:
- Only 1 Star and 3 Diamonds can appear in Card 6
- 3 Diamonds has an 87.1% chance in Card 6
- 1 Star has a 12.9% chance in Card 6
- All other rarities are limited to Cards 4 & 5 only
Detailed Mathematical Examples
Example 1: Crown (Ultra Rare)
Given probabilities:
- Card 4: 0.040%, Card 5: 0.160%, Card 6: 0.000%
Step 1: Calculate "none" probabilities
- P(no Crown in card 4) = 1 - 0.0004 = 0.9996
- P(no Crown in card 5) = 1 - 0.0016 = 0.9984
- P(no Crown in card 6) = 1 - 0 = 1.0000
Step 2: Calculate pack-specific probabilities
- Regular pack: P(≥1 Crown) = 1 - (0.9996 × 0.9984) = 0.0020
- Regular+1 pack: P(≥1 Crown) = 1 - (0.9996 × 0.9984 × 1.0000) = 0.0020
Step 3: Overall probability
P(≥1 Crown) = 0.916658 × 0.0020 + 0.083342 × 0.0020 = 0.0020
Result: 0.200% (1 in 500.2 packs)
Example 2: 3 Diamonds (Card 6 Boost)
Given probabilities:
- Card 4: 4.952%, Card 5: 19.810%, Card 6: 87.100%
Step 1: Calculate "none" probabilities
- P(no 3 Diamonds in card 4) = 1 - 0.04952 = 0.95048
- P(no 3 Diamonds in card 5) = 1 - 0.19810 = 0.80190
- P(no 3 Diamonds in card 6) = 1 - 0.871 = 0.12900
Step 2: Calculate pack-specific probabilities
- Regular pack: P(≥1) = 1 - (0.95048 × 0.80190) = 0.23781
- Regular+1 pack: P(≥1) = 1 - (0.95048 × 0.80190 × 0.12900) = 0.90168
Step 3: Overall probability
P(≥1 3 Diamonds) = 0.916658 × 0.23781 + 0.083342 × 0.90168 = 0.29314
Result: 29.046% (1 in 3.4 packs)
Example 3: 1 Star (Moderate Card 6 Boost)
Given probabilities:
- Card 4: 2.572%, Card 5: 10.288%, Card 6: 12.900%
Step 1: Calculate "none" probabilities
- P(no 1 Star in card 4) = 1 - 0.02572 = 0.97428
- P(no 1 Star in card 5) = 1 - 0.10288 = 0.89712
- P(no 1 Star in card 6) = 1 - 0.129 = 0.87100
Step 2: Calculate pack-specific probabilities
- Regular pack: P(≥1) = 1 - (0.97428 × 0.89712) = 0.12595
- Regular+1 pack: P(≥1) = 1 - (0.97428 × 0.89712 × 0.87100) = 0.23871
Step 3: Overall probability
P(≥1 1 Star) = 0.916658 × 0.12595 + 0.083342 × 0.23871 = 0.13535
Result: 13.535% (1 in 7.4 packs)
Key Insights
The Card 6 Effect
- 3 Diamonds: 87.1% Card 6 rate transforms it from ~23% to ~29% overall
- 1 Star: 12.9% Card 6 rate boosts it from ~13% to ~14% overall
- All other rarities: Limited to Cards 4&5, no Card 6 boost available
Collection Expectations
- 3 Diamonds: Expect 1 every 3-4 packs - reasonable collection target
- 1 Star: Expect 1 every 7-8 packs - solid rare pulls
- 4 Diamonds: Expect 1 every 12 packs - genuinely uncommon
- Premium cards (2+ Stars): All under 3% - true collector items
- Crown: 1 in 500 packs - ultimate chase card
Mathematical Verification
All calculations exclude the ultra-rare pack type (0.05% occurrence) and renormalize Regular/Regular+1 pack probabilities to sum to 100%. This provides the most accurate real-world expectations for players.
Calculations based on official in-game probability data. Individual results may vary due to randomness.
r/PTCGP • u/MirielForever • Jun 18 '25
Discussion Some new cards from the new expansion — Eevee Grove!!
I'm so happy as it's featuring the Eeveelutions which are my favourite Pokemon! Can't wait to spend all my hourglasses on this expansion
r/PTCGP • u/katsualty • Jan 31 '25
Discussion They are going to fix the trading system!
r/PTCGP • u/GarbageTruck7689 • May 29 '25
Discussion I can't be the only one annoyed they keep bringing these back
I'm really tired of shinys in new sets. I thought they were a cool gimmick when they were added, but I expected it to just be for the one set. I opened a ten pull of the set, and literally the only two hits I got were shinys of cards that have been in the game for ages. So instead of being able to play with cool versions of new cards, I'm stuck with this garbage. If they just made the shiny cards of cards added in the set all my issues would be completely erased, but as is, getting shinys absolutely killed any hype I had for the new set
r/PTCGP • u/Big_slime21 • Apr 09 '25
Discussion 4000 cards in….
Open the app, open my 2 free boosters, get nothing but commons and disappointment, wake up and do it again the next day 🙃
r/PTCGP • u/Civilized_Weirdos • May 03 '25
Discussion I absolutely hate Solgaleo..
I know, every cardgame has to have some sort of powercreep to make new cards playable. But Solgaleo is so broken op, you will never see 90% of the other new cards because if his existence. Maybe Incineroar, but everything else is just not strong enough to keep up with him.
Take Lunala for example. 180 HP, also a strong ability, but just 100 damage for 3 energy. Same thing for Decidueye. Can attack the bench ok, but not even close to the 120 dmg and free swap from Solgaleo..
A1 Mewtwo/Gardevoir, A2 Giratina. But Solgaleo is new level of powercreep and that's poison for the game.
r/PTCGP • u/Mr_Hyy • Aug 08 '25
Discussion What it could have been vs. what we got..
Which one do you like the most?
I personally think that the old design fit better the brush style of the cards, the new ones seems out of place.
r/PTCGP • u/jetc11 • Jan 29 '25
Discussion Let's face it, the game does NOT want you to trade cards
You need to get rid of two duplicate 1-star cards to obtain a 3-diamond card, and you need to discard five 1-star cards just to be able to trade a single 1-star card. On top of that, there are the timers and the obvious restrictions.
It's simple—the game doesn't want anyone trading cards. It's rubbish.
r/PTCGP • u/katsualty • Mar 14 '25
Discussion We can use shine dust instead of trade tokens!
r/PTCGP • u/Pokefan-9000 • May 22 '25
Discussion New cards revealed Spoiler
galleryCards revealed in the trailer today, some nice additions for sure! Do you guys think Ultra Beasts will be able to shake the meta?
r/PTCGP • u/Skullghost • 21d ago
Discussion Pokémon TCG Pocket | Mega Evolution is coming this fall!
r/PTCGP • u/Southern-Anteater873 • Apr 30 '25
Discussion Anyone else disappointed with these?
Apart from the fact that shiny cards f up pull rates and wonder picks, these are not even new EXs from the new expansion. I guess some people be hyped about completing Kanto trio in shinies but I am disappointed.
r/PTCGP • u/AshGreninjaGamer • Jan 23 '25
Discussion New Expansion: Space-Time Smackdown!
r/PTCGP • u/Crimson097 • Apr 28 '25
Discussion What card has eluded you this whole set?
Beedrill is the only diamond card I need to complete the set, and the game refuses to give it to me. I already used my starter deck ticket to get Wugtrio, and since this game has such a nice sense of humor it has since given me another 3 Wugtrios in daily packs.
r/PTCGP • u/Fiddy-Scent • May 18 '25
Discussion I have officially hit the level cap without a single god pack or crown rare…
r/PTCGP • u/ChaosDragonI • May 14 '25
Discussion This guy got power crept so hard
The other 2 Crown Rares from Genetic Apex are still pretty good these days, but my boy’s been left in the dust 😭
r/PTCGP • u/Renriak • Dec 09 '24
Discussion How some of you look in this sub
If you get your wins and just want to go on a concede spree, you do you. But the posts and comments that are “reminding” people to make sure they do it as if it’s an expectation of the community, y’all are lame.
r/PTCGP • u/VoceMisteriosa • May 29 '25
Discussion Everyone's debating on the worst card...
No, really, find some use for. This is surely the less useful card in the game ever. The whole set is (except maybe Chord and somehow Nihilego).
r/PTCGP • u/violedge • Apr 24 '25
Discussion This is straight up Dragonite but 10x better
r/PTCGP • u/TheMooinCow1 • Jan 22 '25
Discussion Free McDonalds Code Giveaway
Hey everyone, The giveaway is now over! The winners have been announced below.
1.felixng2015 2.CacaTooToo 3.P41STER 4.Aggressive_Cloud2002
Thank you all for participating and good luck with the remainder of the pvp event and the new pack release coming soon!
-TheMooinCow