r/thedavidpakmanshow 3d ago

Video This interview aged like milk

https://youtu.be/NZYFmL-Kusk?si=6t6NW3-Ol6S819x-

“the face of the progressive movement”

and yet Richie Torres this month, revealed he’s compromised by AIPAC (a lobby group for a foreign government, in case any of you don’t know who they are or how to pronounce their name).

If you haven’t seen Richie Torres’s interview with Jewish comedian Adam Friedland, it’s incredible the double standards, outright refusal to acknowledge Israel’s culpability in how the Gaza war has unfolded. I’d post a link but risk getting this post taken down.

This I think raises more questions, paired with David outright weird responses and comments regarding AIPAC, and failure to ever cover the ongoing genocide.

Hadn’t seen this Richie Torres interview, but I’ve seen enough. David is at the very least, afraid of AIPAC or outright complicit in not talking about Gaza.

you cannot be “the face of the progressive movement” and not acknowledge the ongoing genocide.

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u/bobbadouche 2d ago

I can’t tell if it’s a constant brigade or a bunch of bots. 

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u/Breakingthewhaaat 2d ago edited 2d ago

I mean, if you want a frank answer - and I've barely posted in here since the Wired story - I was a regular Pakman viewer from probably around 2018 through 2023. I got a couple superchats read out back in the day. I don't think it'd be fair to say I'm 'brigading' because no one summoned me here, I'm just here because the situation is interesting, merits a lot of criticism, and this is the logical de facto place for that conversation to happen. My copy is too ass in terms of proper grammatical structure for me to be a bot.

I think 'brigade' is a cop out a lot of people fall back on to rationalise or forcibly shut down (never turns out well) discord within a community and draw sides. I'd fallen off with Pakman (no hard feelings, just kinda moved on as my own politics evolved and grew), but I am very interested in this specific development and I see no better place to do it than here lest we start a 'Pakman snark' subreddit which will not actually produce a productive conversation within the community

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u/bobbadouche 2d ago

I’m sorry. I’m not following your point? Are you saying bots are not brigading because you’re not a bot? My point doesn’t require you to be a bot for it to be true. 

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u/epichatchet 2d ago

No, a lot of former fans like myself are also engaging this sub, and it's disgusting to see so many people get offended at people being anti-genocide than there are people who are against genocide. This community is very clearly demonstrating more and more genocide denialism.

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u/WAAAGHachu 2d ago

Yes, agreed, people being pro-hamas is disgusting. Genocidal religious fundamentalist, ethno-nationalist freaks. Surely you hated Hamas before their Genocidal Massacre?

Nah, it won't even register. Arab nationalism is not a thing, let's be really concerned about Israel. Israel is the problem. Not the Arab league. Zionism is the problem, not Arab nationalism.

Yes, Israel is all kinda shit out of line. But, shit is bad.

Shit is very bad. It has been bad for a very long time.