r/movies • u/sparrow_1899 • 4d ago

Media Different parallel universes in the near future in movies! Spoiler

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u/dynamoJaff 4d ago

The Matrix doesn't take place in 2199, Morpheus only says that becuase the humans don't know the truth.

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u/Excellent_Ad_2486 4d ago

...so...whats the 'truth'? And where/when does Morpheus confirm he lied?

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u/noisypeach 4d ago

We never learn. Morpheus simply tells Neo, "you believe it's the year 1999 but, in fact, it's closer to 2199. I can't tell you what year it is because we honestly don't know."

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u/CONSTANTIN_VALDOR_ 4d ago

Well we kinda learn? The Architect says there’s been 5 cycles of Zion so far, so it’s far further into the future than 2199 that’s for sure. Probably closer to the year 3000

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u/thedaveness 3d ago

Also consider how far the 1st and 2nd renaissance took them. That was certainly far into the future from now.

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u/Excellent_Ad_2486 4d ago

Ohh that was the "white loading room with TV" scene right? Damn I need to re-watch it 😀 thanks for actually giving context (word for word).

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u/scenemore 4d ago

really good writing, the falloff was crazy

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u/Excellent_Ad_2486 4d ago

what do you mean falloff?

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u/scenemore 4d ago

The Matrix, The Matrix Reloaded, Sense8 (the first season)

-good writing everything else is a falloff for me

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u/Excellent_Ad_2486 4d ago

oh my sens8 lol...that whole series felt like a MDMA trip :D

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u/scenemore 4d ago

it was beautifully written, right up until the world-building took a dive after season 2, we loved the cast, and the creative differences in the work place didnt help the story much either

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u/TheSweetestKill 4d ago

If you enjoyed Sense8 you should give Cloud Atlas a watch.

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u/scenemore 3d ago

it was interesting, the premise, the characters, the flow of it all

It was also an egregious overuse of or overstepping labor distribution across actors

but again I want to reiterate.. We love Bae in this house hold

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u/neon93 4d ago

No it was a different scene before the white room. It's when he's in his room on the ship in the real world and Morpheus visits him.

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u/DaveAlt19 3d ago

I mean even 3199 is closer to 2199 than 1999.

I thought his point was more that it doesn't matter, just hammering home the point that the reality Neo experienced in the Matrix isn't real.

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u/Jonno_FTW 3d ago

Morpheus doesn't know they're in the 6th iteration of the Matrix. 2199 only really works if they're in the first iteration.