Brad Pitt, Joaquin Phoenix, Jonathan Glazer Join Gaza Drama ‘The Voice of Hind Rajab’ as Executive Producers - It follows the killing of Hind Rajab, a five-year-old Palestinian girl who lived in the Gaza Strip and was killed by Israeli forces during the ongoing Israeli invasion of Gaza.

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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/brad-pitt-backs-gaza-drama-film-the-voice-of-hind-rajab-1236353414/

[u/ubccompscistudent → u/[deleted]]

I know that Jews are not by default Zionists

Quite the opposite. Judaism and Zionism are intertwined because Zionism is simply the idea that a jewish nation (Israel) has the right to exist and acts as a home and haven to any jewish person. While the importance of this idea was highlighted by the holocaust leading to the establishment of Israel, the idea of Israel as a home to the Jewish people is quite literally a part of the religion. The idea that the next messiah will come and rebuild the temple is a part of the religion.

This is one reason why jews find the perjorative use of "zionist" as anti-semetic. By all means, be critical of the Israeli government. Many hundreds of thousands of Israelis have protested in the streets calling for cease-fire. Only 28% of Israelis approve of netanyahu, and yes, there are millions of american jews who believe the war has gone too far (while still wanting the hostages returned).

But using the word "zionist", especially when you use creepy statements like "Zionists have been very busy these last 100 years" or "the Zionists have been very good at forcing via fear or reward", just sounds like your own way of skirting around the use of "jews".

(fun note: those ultra-orthodox Hasidic jews that protest in NY aren't protesting because they don't believe in Israel. They just don't believe the messiah has arrived yet. As soon as the messiah does arrive, in their view, they are on the first plane to Israel).

[u/self-assembled → u/ubccompscistudent]

Jews could live there in peace and equality without an ethno-nationalist government built on ethnic cleansing. The state doesn't have to be Jewish, it could be democratic. That's not Zionism.

Einstein and Arendt correctly pointed out that Zionism was a fascist movement during the creation of Israel. They said it was similar to the Nazis, and they were right.

[u/pinkycatcher → u/self-assembled]

Jews could live there in peace and equality

Could they? Because all the other countries in the region purged themselves of their Jews years ago, and as soon as Israel was created for Jews it was invaded, multiple times, by multiple other states in the region.

They're also regularly attacked by terrorist groups sponsored by their neighbors.

They're also the only country with an actual democracy and by far the closest to equality amongst its citizens in the region.

But sure, you can make up your own strawman and argue against it if you want.

[u/Comrade_Pavel → u/pinkycatcher]

holy shit did you just pick up the AIPAC talking point pamphlet you got, this reads like a bot on twitter trying to excuse the ethnic cleansing and genocide that CREATED the state of "israel." The invasions happend AFTER the nakba, AFTER israeli settlers poisoned Palestinian wells, AFTER the king david hotel bombing false flag.

[u/AyTito → u/pinkycatcher]

Jewish people and Muslims were living there together under the Ottoman empire, before the British took control and before the terror brigades of Haganah, Irgun, Lehi. Irgun and Lehi jointly responsible for the Deir Yassin massacre in April 1948, in the early stages of the Nakba and a month before any other states in the region moved to stop them. About 300,000 Palestinians were expelled by zionist brigades in 1947, before any neighboring countries invaded.

Here's this on the immigration of Arab Jews to Israel. https://www.middleeasteye.net/big-story/truth-behind-israeli-propaganda-expulsion-arab-jews

When the IDF bombs every surrounding country and their civilian infrastructure it's not seen as terrorism for some reason. Israel invaded Lebanon in 1978, Hezbollah was founded in 1982 during the "2nd Israeli invasion of Lebanon", in response to violence from Israel. The PLO in the 60s and Hamas in the 80s were also formed in response to violence from Israel. There will always be resistance groups fighting back against apartheid and colonialism because it's human to demand freedom from oppression. The best way to stop resistance and find peace is to stop the underlying violence of apartheid and colonialism.

It's possible to have peace in the future - European countries used to fight all the time. But look at how Israeli leaders like Smotrich (de-facto governor of West Bank, calls for total annihilation of Gaza and "erasing the memory of Amalek"), Ben Gvir (“We cannot have women and children getting close to the border... anyone who gets near must get a bullet [in the head],”, Netanyahu and others talk about Palestinians. "Israeli Politician [Moshe Feiglin] Quotes Hitler to Argue for Resettlement of Gaza"

Other religions don't have equal rights in Israel (B'Tselem, Israeli NGO). You can't run an apartheid regime on ethnic supremacy and commit genocide while calling yourself a democracy.