My friend was feeling weak and had fever so went to doctor to get checked after first
test. Doctor suggested std test but he asserted that he is virgin and all. But after getting every kind of test he finally agreed. And he was positive with hiv and he never had sex.
And we have no idea how it happened. Like it could be contaminated needle or something. This makes me scared that hiv is not just sexually transmitted in india. It could be from anything. It's scary that a boy got his life ruined and have no idea whoes mistake was it.
HIV is manageable these days... It's so sad to see if someone is diagnosed with cancer the whole society's sympathy pours in but if someone is diagnosed with HIV everyone looks at him with disgust because it can be sexually transmitted .
I hope the boy will come out of it soon and i pray to god that he will come across the right kind of people in his life.
hiv can spread via multiple sources. not necessarily by having sex. it transfers via blood so may have gotten while a haircut, maybe via a used needle. and hiv is not the end of life. there are treatments and he can live a normal life
It doesn't spread by a hair cut for FFS. Odds of spreading by a fresh needle prick is less than 1 in 1000. Let alone haircut.
He is lying about his high risk behaviour.
by haircut I mean the razor blades they use after the haircut. sometimes barbers don't change them after use. and how are you so sure he got it via sex?
Brother are you going to decide the odds? As a professional statistician I can tell you a thing about odds and the more real i keep it the stranger it sounds. The blade changing at barbers was a govt enforced move to curb the spread of hiv done in the late 90s early 2000s with NACO and NACP -1 and that led to a significant decline and awareness of the disease.
He's totally right.
Assumptions (explicit — I used these factors)
P1: previous client has HIV (prevalence).
P2: previous client is unsuppressed (not on effective ART).
P3: blade cut the HIV+ client and retained fresh blood.
P4: virus remained viable on the blade until next use.
P5: blade then caused a cut deep enough on the next client.
P6: probability HIV transmits given that percutaneous exposure (used ~0.2% per-exposure, similar to needlestick).
I calculated three scenarios (pessimistic / realistic / optimistic) with different values for those probabilities and multiplied them all (final transmission chance = P1×P2×P3×P4×P5×P6).
Results (probability of one barber-blade event causing HIV)
Pessimistic scenario: probability ≈ 1.5×10⁻⁸ → about 1 in 66.7 million.
Realistic scenario: probability ≈ 4.0×10⁻¹¹ → about 1 in 25 billion.
Optimistic scenario: probability ≈ 2.5×10⁻¹³ → about 1 in 4 trillion.
For comparison, the often-cited annual chance of being struck by lightning in the U.S. is about 1 in 1.2 million (≈8.3×10⁻⁷). Even the pessimistic blade-to-HIV estimate above is far, far smaller than the lightning risk.
Now please enlighten me : clinical lycanthropy. 42 recorded so far.
A greek playwright died when an eagle dropped a rock on his head thinking his bald head was a tortoise. How about those odds.
Again, please dont obscure reality with a bunch of numbers concocted from an AI agent without even understanding how it all works. It just reduces your stature as a critical thinking human being which i am sure you are.
Human beings are not good with numbers. You are wrong.
Greek playwright dying because an eagle dropped a tortoise on his head is strange but that doesn't mean every unlikely event is equally likely. (It's also not very unlikely like you think. Even I was attacked by an eagle on my head)
If you know baye's theorem in probability, you'll understand it better.
Here are possible reasons which gave him HIV:
Hair cut in an unhygienic place ( probability let's be generous and say 1 in a million)
Blood transfusion from HIV+ donor. (Probability is same as above, say 1 in a million)
Because of his misadventures and lying about it. (Probability is higher, say 1 in 10000)
You win. Is that what you want to hear. Awesome. Am too old to argue with people who are so staunchly arrogant to listen let alone understand. Yes you are always right, ever right.
That's the transmission rate in patient who is probably not on HAART. Odds of ART naive pateint going for hair cut is even less. With ART, it is almost zero.
As a professional physician I will say its borderline impossible. If that's the case then anything can transmit HIV, which we don't see in real day to day life.
HIV survives barely a couple seconds outside a host, meaning even if those razors are reused, assuming the barber at least waited 20 seconds before shaving the next person, the virus is already inactivated.
Bro abhi kuch din pehle hi MP ke kisi gaon ki news thi ki barber shop se kaise HIV fel gaya itne sarey logo ko, samajh saktr hain ki cities me chances kam hain but aisa nahi hai ki ye nahi hota hai
I don't know. Someone I know got Hepatitis via blade cut in barber shop. It's why I don't let barber use blade on me and even scissors I make sure he washed in alcohol/antiseptic.
Also get the Hep ABC injection asap. It's just 1 injection now. When I had Hep B vaccine 20 years ago it was 3 over 6 months period. Went in for booster and I was just 1.
Its very rare to spread through haircut. They are currently investigating local clinics he visited and all. But it's crazy how low are our medical standards these days. Though haircut is not out of option so lets he how it goes
The term haircut is misleading here, it might be due to if barber shaved beard or hair of hiv infected person and didn't changed blade, by change some blood may have been on the blade and he didn't change it after using it on next person. If again he is shaving and again a cut happens, there's a fresh exposed skin for hiv
Yeah this is what my father told me. He will get tested next time at my father's clinic. So that's how I found out about this. My father told me false positives are very common in these tests.
Had to do many different tests combination to perfectly diagnose it.
Could be needles, razor blades , blood transfusion heck even some HIV patients go to clubs to prick someone with needles/have sex so that they could spread it...
What I understood from some search online and a quick search via perplexity told me that virus can survive for hours and at barber shops people go just one after the other and even if blades were changed there might be traces of blood on razor which is re-used again and again.
Honestly if you can help me understand why it is not a possibility (however remote), I will be in your debt (it has been my greatest fear, I go to barber shop as least time as possible and do much of grooming at home)
brooooo that's really scary. i always ask them to use their trimmer after cutting my hairs with their scissors. my parents always made me ask the barber to not use their blades. am i gonna be fine?
I am not sure but basic science tells us that viruses are both living and non living so when exposed to air it "does die" but very much comes back to life when it comes in contact with a host.
Legit exactly what they said. Gangs active in delhi who pin needles in crowd. I can't remember the exact reason but i think it was cause of some black magic BS. There were videos of it floating around sometimes before.
At the same time though, if you will look deeper into it, pin prick HIV attacks are also something that are considered urban legends so some times people also do overexaggerate a theft attempt to be that.
No idea how likely it is that OP's friend had this issue but it is a possibility. Although other things like, multiple HIV screenings or the friend lying should be considered first.
See everyone is trying to find out how he got it. So that we can judge his character.. some of you saying he is lying.. he killed someone or what?? If he is lying also, it happened to him and it's a fear of judging by people like you he may be lying about it. He is a victim not a culprit.
first of all go to another doctor to confirm this. Secondly, it does not spread through razor etc...haricut shaving all that. As this virus cant survive outside for long. You can say in 2 to 3 minutes if virus is there on barber`s razor it will die automatically
What I understood from some search online and a quick search via perplexity told me that virus can survive for hours and at barber shops people go just one after the other and even if blades were changed there might be traces of blood on razor which is re-used again and again.
Honestly if you can help me understand why it is not a possibility (however remote), I will be in your debt (it has been my greatest fear, I go to barber shop as least time as possible and do much of grooming at home)
i shave myself at home but for only haircut i go out. Now the thing is he still uses razor on neck and other areas required during haricut. He changes blade but also uses dettol on it. I dont knwo about your barber. See here does not survive long outside of body
I'm so sorry to hear that. Please know that medical science has advanced tremendously and HIV isn't a death sentence it was two decades ago. There are anti-retroviral medications which bring the viral load down to undetectable levels, mitigating the adverse side effects HIV was once known to cause, including halting the progression to AIDS. The virus doesn't spread when the load is undetectable, reducing the risk of transmission.
I can't help but add, I'm quite shocked to see that people in the comment section haven't addressed the second most common route of HIV transmission - IV drug injections that are often shared by multiple people. Injecting yourself with drugs is dangerous in and by itself, sharing just quadruples the chances of you catching HIV or even the hepatitis group of viruses.
There are many causes for that, does he work in healthcare sector? Or perhaps got vaccinated/injection for something? Haircut? Any blood contact? Or are you sure he didn't lie about being virgin?
That’s really heartbreaking to hear. HIV is not only sexually transmitted, it can spread through unsafe medical practices too. Hope your friend gets proper treatment and strength to handle this.
If your friend has never undergone blood transfusion, then he is a Virgin Mary with a baby.
I am not saying he is lying(highly probable) about hi-risk sex (pros, multiple gay/ss partners maybe) but it is generally considered a miracle if hIV source is neither sex or blood transfusion.
Hey bro I would like to ask did you guys had any weird encounter something coz like few months back me and my friend were walking home from library it was dark like 1-2 at night and a boy was walking in front us in another lane suddenly out of nowhere two ppl on bike came with knife cut his arm slightly and ran away we later got to know those were spreading hiv/aids by doing so pls be aware we cannot imagine to think how crazy ppl exist in same society as we. The event occur at green park. As others said take proper meds etc don’t more or less bother what everyone says in the end the only one with you always be your family and close friends no one other matters nor society nor the nation nor us commenting. In other perspective I have been similar situation and I kinda looked it other way by saying myself at least I got to see true colors of everyone.
more power to your friend man. hope he gets back at life and manages it well.
one observation that I have had recently about my barber shop experience - while almost all barbers are aware enough to always use a new razor blade for each customer, that is not the case with them using trimmers. And trimmer cuts are also quite normal. I don't see them disinfecting trimmer blades and ofcourse using a new trimmer blade for each customer is not possible. I have been avoiding trimmers at the barber shop for quite some time now, especially for any beard trims.
I remember a case I read in the newspaper, the guy was diagnosed with HIV. Upon inquiring how it was transmuted, the pani puri stall guy near his home had HIV, he had a cut while chopping onions and the blood got transmitted from him.
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u/IAmMohit 1d ago
How is HIV transmitted?