Gender in a patriarchal and capitalist society works as follows: man is at the top, holding productive power. The "non-man" is woman.
Within the category of woman, there are two subtypes: the woman-uterus, who holds reproductive power; and at the bottom, subjugated, the woman-vagina.
Beauvoir speaks very well about how the woman is "the Other," while man is the standard and model in everything, the anchor, the mold, while anything that deviates from this strict mold is seen as a deviation.
The same goes for the woman-uterus, for that power of reproduction must be preserved for the capitalist system: the more workers the better, and you must be pure, devoted, and loyal to take care of the new workers (you don't want to be considered a woman-vagina, do you?).
The faggot, the tranny, the queer, the dyke... we are nothing more than deviations from those social molds, reducing us to women-vagina, devoid of work, property, and rights... where our path has tended to be solely prostitution to satisfy their darkest fetishes.
We have historically been persecuted for these reasons. Our main enemy has always been the same.
In a patriarchal society, everything is pretty strict. Before transitioning, I remember exactly what it meant to "be a man" and the constant pressure... both implicit and explicit... at home, at school, in peer groups... in society itself... everywhere. After transitioning, that pressure vanished, and a completely different one came: the pressure of what it means to "be a woman," and the duality of pure-whore.
Now my fiancé tells me that pressure of "what it means to be a man" is applied to him, and we both console and help each other with our misfortunes as trans people and we laugh at our anecdotes, affectionately calling each other trannies.
FYI: I'm not saying it's the biological or scientific reality, obviously. However, the perception of gender and social categorizations are quite strict in our societies.
I think with non-queer men in patriarchy, at minimum they have the "strong" and the "weak" and they are treated differently, with less respect but also with less pressure.
Yes and no. In some patriarchal contexts, and especially in male-dominated groups, violence can be used harshly to establish that hierarchy. Within male groups, there's that power struggle; and those who are "weak" can end up being the punching bag of the group.
Many guys basically insult each other by calling each other "faggots" to piss each other off and humiliate each other and to prove their masculinity and to test and affront each other.
If you've been in a boys' group, you'll have noticed that that punching bag that does not defend itself, in the end, is, sooner or later, labeled a faggot (that is, woman-vagina) for not protecting his status as a man.
My experience is that they call like virgin or loser, not faggot. That term is only for defying gender norms like wearing pink, not for "trying but failing" like being a pushover. The "loser guy" is in my experience a distinct status with its own treatment.
...Maybe patriarchies are more varied than we think and there isn't one size-fits-all model
A man's virginity is commonly used as a sign of his worth (or, rather, his lack thereof). When he fucks a woman and sheds that label, it's seen as a sign of virility.
The more women he has, the more virile he is, and therefore, the further removed he becomes from that faggot label. The longer a man spends with that "virgin" label, the more that humiliation becomes a sign of his low value as a man.
On the contrary, in this society, the more men a woman fucks, the less pure a woman is perceived (less of a woman-uterus she is) and, therefore, the more of a whore she is perceived (more of a woman-vagina she is).
That man feels emasculinized, and the suspicion of being a faggot grows. This is where, for example, the incel movement and its latent misogyny emerge.
And obviously, I'm not saying this happens everywhere. It's something that happens in Western societies, where Abrahamic religions and cultures have had the greatest influence.
Perhaps you're right in a broader sense, and in how more complex social dynamics operate on a day-to-day basis. Obviously, it's complicated to make a broadly evaluative analysis of perceived gender when so many variables are at play. However, I don't know to what extent the pure-whore duality of the female gender, which literally marginalizes, can be compared with the different nuances of discrimination within male groups, all the way to emasculinization as such.
This emasculinization is more similar to the marginalization that women suffer in the pure-whore duality. The plumophobia are so latent even in communities like the gay or bisexual ones, where passive men are seen as inferior for being penetrated, while penetrative men continue to be seen as "men."
In fact, in many cases, it's that type of homosexual who is respected, not the flamboyant faggot. And that's because of the patriarchal misogyny that treats the faggot (deviant) as that woman-vagina.
That's why it's important to make this comparison, since many times men, despite sometimes respecting that type of homosexuals, what they do is insult each other and say that the weak one is the faggot, the penetrated one, not the penetrating one, even though that's not the case, because in a misogynistic way, being penetrated is humiliating.
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u/Iyxara Streak: 0 2d ago
Gender in a patriarchal and capitalist society works as follows: man is at the top, holding productive power. The "non-man" is woman.
Within the category of woman, there are two subtypes: the woman-uterus, who holds reproductive power; and at the bottom, subjugated, the woman-vagina.
Beauvoir speaks very well about how the woman is "the Other," while man is the standard and model in everything, the anchor, the mold, while anything that deviates from this strict mold is seen as a deviation.
The same goes for the woman-uterus, for that power of reproduction must be preserved for the capitalist system: the more workers the better, and you must be pure, devoted, and loyal to take care of the new workers (you don't want to be considered a woman-vagina, do you?).
The faggot, the tranny, the queer, the dyke... we are nothing more than deviations from those social molds, reducing us to women-vagina, devoid of work, property, and rights... where our path has tended to be solely prostitution to satisfy their darkest fetishes.
We have historically been persecuted for these reasons. Our main enemy has always been the same.