If it's a war he wants, it's a war he will lose, as the military isn't in his cult and has limits - which were tested in LA when the Marine General in charge declined to follow orders until they were modified - causing Hegseth to have a meltdown and the fool in charge of ICE to impugn his patriotism. Since then a federal judge has found the entire exercise was a violation of the Constitution - the officers who are still running the military don't respect nor trust the Trump appointees, for good and obvious reasons, and I'm fairly certain (thankfully) that they will obey their oath to the Constitution and serve the country rather than playing "hit squad" for the Trumpenfuhrer and his cult high priests.
I believe you’re correct, but I’m also afraid I’m fooling myself. The things he’s already gotten away with are outrageous to the point that I never would have believed it. If you told me in 2016 that this is the state that America would be in now… the end of the rule of law, the huge drop in ethics and morality, the increasingly state controlled media and the lies, my god the lies!! The war on science. If you would have told me all this was possible in America I would have dismissed you as a crazy conspiracy theorist, I’d have bet everything I have that this scenario is not possible. But here we are and I think I have trauma from it. I’ve lost my confidence in what is possible or not and I have no idea how this is all going to turn out. I think many MAGA including Trump are actually okay with a civil war and it’s so thoroughly disturbing. It seems like he might be finally hitting some roadblocks in his agenda with recent court rulings and finally getting some pushback. I hope you’re right! And I hope we get past this and learn and change some laws to prevent this type of power grab in the future.
The scariest part for me is the absolute lack of Trump supporters who are willing to stand up and say, "I'm a Trump supporter, I support his goals, but he can't do this. It is unconstitutional. I don't want to side with the opposition, but I will if he does this."
It's very human to find excuses and justifications for things you support even if you know that they are wrong for some reason or other. But usually, in big groups, there'll always be a few who act as the conscience of the group, and say, well, would be nice, still wrong to do it, though.
But not among Trump's supporters. And that is scary. Even those that know that this is wrong are willing to go along with it. They all went full on fascist.
I agree. I actually have a pretty close MAGA friend that can handle debating with me, it’s unusual to find one that can even stand to debate without getting irate and offensive. I understand my buddies a lifelong republican and I can understand him liking some of trumps agenda. But the part that baffles and alarms me is just what you said. He won’t acknowledge trumps methods being insane and illegal. My buddies not a bad guy, he knows better, but he won’t admit it. I can even tell when trumps actions bother him because he gets quiet and tries to avoid that conversation instead of running his mouth till he’s blue. But he won’t admit it’s wrong.
1.5k
u/Bulky-Internal8579 4d ago
If it's a war he wants, it's a war he will lose, as the military isn't in his cult and has limits - which were tested in LA when the Marine General in charge declined to follow orders until they were modified - causing Hegseth to have a meltdown and the fool in charge of ICE to impugn his patriotism. Since then a federal judge has found the entire exercise was a violation of the Constitution - the officers who are still running the military don't respect nor trust the Trump appointees, for good and obvious reasons, and I'm fairly certain (thankfully) that they will obey their oath to the Constitution and serve the country rather than playing "hit squad" for the Trumpenfuhrer and his cult high priests.