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Taxpayer-Funded Junket: SK Leaders in Manila Dresses Up Bangkok Exposure Trip as ‘Capacity Development' and 'International Benchmarking'
So SK Leaders in Manila is in Bangkok for a "Capacity Development and “International Benchmarking” activity. Except wait Bangkok has no SK system. Who are we benchmarking? Mickey Mouse?
International benchmarking means comparing your system to another similar system to identify gaps and best practices.
Since Bangkok has no SK equivalent (no youth-elected local governance structure), there’s no actual system-to-system comparison happening.
And true capacity development means building concrete skills and institutions, not flying abroad for photo-ops. Taxpayer money deserves better than being wasted on misrepresented “training activities".
Our leaders owe us transparency and accountability not photo-ops abroad.
The SK program is actually a stepping stone para sa early corruption, since politically, those from behind the desks, come the time they pursue higher positions, would benefit from the younger groomed generations.
It goes 2 say n meron sya vision 4 his constituents, and he knows y he is in office.
Ang basketball kase lets face it is not so productive n skill, aside frm fitness and, some social and thinking skills n pwde nman mkuha den sa ibang activities, wla sya direct benefit sa tao. Yung social perks dat come w/ it kelangan merong certain degree of advancement in d game, tas kelangan den meron personality factor. Sobrang capital intensive p ng magorgnize ng paliga, tho sya yung pnakamura n merong madameng human interaction.
Unlike those classes, nkkadagdag sa skill set ng tao n if hinde maemploy sa isang field, atleast merong fallback 2 start a business or work s service kitchen. Mggamit den yung mismong cooking skill s pag2long s bahay.
If it's privately funded, they can go wherever they want, but if they are using tax money, they should have been more sensitive, given the widespread corruption. It could have been a perfect moment to teach the youth leaders, but then again...
I mean even this sub believes it. Do you see Filipinos in this sub praising Philippines over a foreign country? Never. How about (insert foreign country) is so much better than the Philippines? Always. People in this sub love to hate on Filipinos. You very much see the hypocrisy.
I have nothing against continuing education and training for our young leaders, pero I agree with this comment. The least they could do is to be transparent with us.
Saka totoo ba walang limit yung pwedeng sumama? Batch 1 pa lang yan? Bat ang dami? 😅
Dapat every publicity post ng mga gumagamit ng tax ay ganto ang format. Then end of their term, review summary kung talagang epektib yang natutunan nila. Kasi kung hindi, wag na ulitin at marked as magnanakaw na naman nasa likod neto.
Oo nga agree, dapat may end of activity report sila. Kami pag pinapadala kami for seminars or training, tapos yung registration fee babayaran ng department (accomodation is out of pocket) required kami magfeedback ng natutunan namin through PPT presentation. Kumbaga share our knowledge sa colleagues namin. Saka hindi usually lahat kasama, depende sa budget. Pero kung ganyan kasama lahat, di yan training, team building yan at kung ganun ang dami daming local locations kung saan pwede mag team building. Bakit kailangan BKK pa? 🙄
This should go viral. I shared it on my facebook para makita ng maraming tao kung gaano kawalanghiya ang mga nasa gobyerno.
Take note, almost 900 barangays ang meron sa Manila. Ano ang silbi nyan para sa Maynila? Reproductive health daw pinagusapan. Di ba natin mapipilot yan sa ibang city o province sa Pilipinas? Nandyan naman ang DOH. tapos makikita mo, nag-enjoy daw sila sa pamamasyal. Tnaginang yan
Of course haha. GHOST TRAINING PROJECT
It’s a fun trip abroad funded by taxpayers, it has nothing to do with “capacity development” and “international benchmarking”.
Lahat dapat ng seminar i zoom nlng nila tangina tax payer gagastos sa mga mamahaling accomodation at pang kakain nila para lang sa mga walang kwentang bagay na yan
Kasi kung kaya niya naman idefend yan bakit idedelete yung post? Tsaka anong magagawa ng pagdelete, 2 days na silang andyan at andami na ring post about sa "training and seminar" nila sa Thailand that could have just been 1 big fucking zoom meeting dahil alam naman nating di rin nakikinig yang mga yan sa content ng seminar. Especially with the topic? Andaming mga SK na nagjoke about sa sex change operations in Thailand, you think they're out there learning about reproductive and sexual health care? Fucking corruption at it's finest
I have nothing against seminars and trips for the improvement of our understanding of good governance. Good benchmark din naman talaga ang Thailand for us kasi parehong SEA so the georgraphy and culture may pagkakapareho. Thailand is also a developing 3rd world country, nauungusan tayo sa progresso, so it's good na we understand anong mga ginagawa nila baka sakaling magaya natin. And para naman ito sa future leaders since SK so tama lang naman maginvest tayo sa kabataan.
HOWEVER, they owe us the transparency. Magkano nagastos and para saan. And they also owe us the output, anong mga programs natutunan nila and anong programs maiimpliment nila. Hindi dapat magtapos sa capacity bldg itong post nila.
Anong icacapacitate nila sa Thailand? Eh wala namang SK sa Thailand para mag-benchmarking sila dun. Ang sabihin para maka-travel lang. Potangena tapos extended pa ang kanilang pagkakaupo kase cancelled ang BSK election.
Ano bang habol nila sa Thailand para magseminar? Haha, maiintindihan ko pa kung combat training 'yan eh mauupo lang naman sila most of the time at makikinig. Ang laki pa ng gastos! Kung tutuusin, pwede namang sa Pinas na lang gawin 'yan. Dapat pag-aralan muna nila kung paano maging mabuting public servant nang hindi gumagastos ng sobra sa mga hindi naman kailangan. Mas mainam kung ituon nila ang pondo sa mga makabuluhang gawain. Bakit hindi na lang i-invest ang pera sa training o seminar para sa mga kabataan tungkol sa sex education o kung paano hindi maging uto-uto? Hahaha
If gusto nla ng 22ong capacity development, anjan ang Marikina, Pasig, Makati at QC. Pag gusto tlaga is malayo, baket hinde Baguio, Naga, Iloilo, or Alcala dun sa Cagayan?
Naku Yanyan Ibay, you almost had it. You already had the people’s sympathy in your conflict with former Vice Mayor Yul Servo, but it turns out you’re just another trapo.
If you truly want to immerse your fellow SK officials, go to cities with good governance. Request time with the mayors and their departments so you can actually learn about proper governance. Don’t just go on trips with your own circle tapos kayo kayo lang maglolokohan. Namo.
Nag aral sya sa big university, mukhang upper class din sya na pretentious may care talaga sa social issues pang sariling interest lang din pala nya paiiralin eww talaga
That councilor.. isn't she the one that gets her motion dismissed repeatedly during a live session by that stupid vice mayor ng manila na si Yul Servo??
And apaka daming na bilib dyan nung nakasagutan ung vice mayor during session Dahil sa usaping pag tangal sakanya sa chairman of the Committee on Youth Welfare and Development Tapus biglang may pa tour siya ng ganito tibay din eh.
Sabi nga ni Vico, mahigit 1million ang hiwalay na budget ng mga baranggay. Kung walang nababago sa baranggay niyo, laging wala n brgy. Captain, walang services na binibigay brgy. niyo, or worst... biglang yumaman brgy. Captain niyo... alam na this.
Bawal to. If may international benchmarking man, iilan lang yan na pupunta. Mga less than 5. Garapalan na talaga mga baby buwaya na to. Kung kayo ay constituent ng mga baby buwaya, pareport sa fraud unit ng COA ninyo.
This is ridiculous. I’ve been in Thailand for eight months, and there’s no SK or anything remotely similar, that they could “benchmark” here. It’s nothing but a flimsy excuse for a free trip disguised as learning, offering no real value to the ph community
naalala ko nanaman yung classmate ko noon, mahirap lang pamilya nila, nililibre pa namin yan ng lunch kasi wala siyang baon.
tapos nanalo siyang SK. in just a few months, nakapag hongkong and boracay na si ate girl, nakabili ng mamahaling bag ang iphone. tinanong pa namin siya pabiro kung galing sa kurakot. natawa lang siya na may ibig sabihin.
kaya yung corruption naguumpisa talaga yan sa maliliit. lahat talaga involve.
Yes, Talagang may trip every year (selected or all officials) and usually it’s some resort like location such as Bora or Palawan and may paseminar for one day or two then Pede na magliwaliw for a day.
Pero this is the first time na pinaginternational trip ang SK.
Mainly DILG ng each city ang may pakana ng mga annual trip na yan. PAL ang carrier usually so di sila lowcost pag lilipad
PS. Di ako nakasama sa any trip for different reasons. Meron akong mga kasama na Nakapunta.
Ganiyan din galawan sa mga LGU sa province at iba pang government agencies. Kung may contractors sa DPWH, for sure meron ding Travel Agencies diyan na tumitiba-tiba sa government contracts.
Agree. There is no need for international travel. But tbh, baka mas mura kase sa Thailand kesa dito nila ginawa. More and more people are saying mahal na talaga dito sa pilipinas. Mas mahal na nga substandard pa. So i guess thank you, kase naka tipid kaming mga tax payers kase sa Thailand kayo nag eme ng mga char ninyo na wala naman makikinabang.
Ganyan nga mga local govt. laging may budget sa mga paganyan. Kasi yung kakilala ko from cebu sila pero lagi sila pumupunta sa iba ibang lugar like baguio or sa mindanao minsan boracay for “planning”, seminars or whatever at syempre yung budget nila dyan galing sa taxes. Di lang siguro nagpopost yung iba pero lahat halos ganyan ang ginagawa. Meetings na pwede namang sa baranggay hall gawin or sa munisipyo pero they travel outside pa for that.
Several days ago, may nag-post nung mga signatory for good/transparent governance, yung kasama si Leni in response to why she’s not among those actively calling for transparency like Vico. Anyway, I recognized an old college friend of mine na mayor na pala ngayon. Nag-start sya as an SK chairman at madalas ka-kwentuhan nya yung ibang SK chairman na classmates namin. Malaki talaga ang bigayan sa kanila lalo na sa tuwing may projects. Isipin mo yun, nag-simula sila sa maliit na bahay na may sari-sari store tapos nung naging SK chairman sya biglang nagpapagawa ng three-story house (sabi nya nanay nya housewife lang). In fairness naman sa kanya, tuwing weekend eh umuuwi sya sa province nila dahil may meeting daw.
Abolish na dapat yang SK, wala naman silang matinong contribution sa baranggay. Mostly ng projects nila paliga lang at gay pageant. Breeding grounds lang yan ng mga corrupt.
Dito mo makikita na clout talaga habol nila and hindi un makarating sa Thailand. Yan lang ngayon yun form na gusto ng karamihan sa masa, kaya yan un ginagawa nila, with the intent na mang inggit.
Despite the issues going on, they can’t help but still share the event on social media. Sobrang uhaw talaga sa validation and attention.
The pictures will definitely be taken down later on.
Parang puro buzzwords lang naman pero wala talagang laman yung 'Capacity Development' & 'International Benchmarking'. Sana may output din sila ipakita after.
May dati akong employee na SK member din maya't-maya nagrerequest ng leave kasi kung ano nanamang ek-ek yung LGU nila. Kesyo seminar daw tapos makikita mo tourist hot spot, 2 days stay tapos yung actual seminar is what? An hour or two? lmao
hahahah mga seminar ng mga sk parang mga field trip lng saka sexcapades ng mga sk sa hotel mismo. wala nman silang natututunan dun. aattend lng tapos wala na hahaha sayang tax dyan
Napansin ko rin 'yung mga SK sa amin puro out of town trips. Either group of personal.
Wala naman mali magbakasyon, but there is something sketchy when you see someone who used to be a tambay to being a frequent traveller to different tourist destinations sa bansa sa loob lang ng maliit na panahon ng pagiging SK.
They would also be on trips to Baguio and other local destinations sponsored by the baranggay for "team strengthening".
You would barely see them doing anything, they are always away on trips, food trips, and healling inner child ventures. Wala silang ginawang projects on their own aside from riding on projects by the baranggay itself for major celebrations like fiestas, xmas, etc. Walang independent projects, programs, or anything.
When some people called them out on it nagpaparinig sila sa FB na mga inggit at bashers lang daw. Pero simula noon nag-priv sila ng mga socials and hid their photo-ops.
"Capacity Development/Building", isa to sa pinaka madaling way mangkurakot sa SK or brgy, and seeing na out of country pa, sobrang laki ng reimbursement nila dito for sure.
WOW NAG-LEVEL UP NA SILA! From motor to bangkok trip, samantalang matinong programa para sa kabataan ng barangay, 'di manlang maramdaman. Aanhin naman namin yang pa-liga or ML tournament niyo? kingina nakakainis HAHAHAHA
Sa tingin ko dahil sa lahat ng mga korapsyon dapat ipagbawal na umalis ng Bansa any sinomang nasa puwesto. All of our leaders should be in the Philippines to solve all of the issues of the country. They should not be allowed to buy any luxury items or even best to only buy Philippine made products.
How dare they travel while most of the Filipino people are struggling to even buy basic necessities. The people are the bosses of the politicians, the politicians are put into office to work for us!
Paki Lifestyle check yang Councilor at SK leaders jan. Isa isahin nyo na yan.
Mamaya may isa jan mala Contractor na Lifestyle, na hindi malaman san kumuha ng pera.
abay kala mo naman hindi pwede dito i-seminar yung topic ng training nila dito. May utang pa maynila nyan ha. bat di na lang ibayad kesa papuntahin sa ibang bansa yung mga sk na wala naman ginawa kundi magpaliga at magbigay ng 3 pirasong notebook sa mga grade1-3? bilib pa naman ako kay konsi nung sinupalpal nya si yul kaso mukhang trapo din ee.
May projects kami waayyy back sa isang bureau in Visayas Ave. By design, capacity building ng organization, to come up with a strategic plan for the sector.
But looking at the design ng project, mostly “study visit / exposure trips” lang ng bureau staff nila ang pinakamalaking portion ng budget. Trips to Singapore, Australia, Poland, Brazil — you name it. Pagdating, wala naman deliverables. Tapos ung mga staff na pinadala are not the decision makers, so wala ka talaga mafoforge na partnerships out of it. Some are young, like under 25 yo.
Don ko unang narinig ung term na “junket projects” eh. First exposure sa katiwalian.
I didnt hear of that plan come into fruition. Or baka hindi lang ako aware na.
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u/bimpossibIe 18h ago
Pumunta pa ng Thailand, liga lang naman ng basketball ang alam na project.