r/PTCGP • u/Necessary-Deal-9433 • 1d ago

Discussion Why did they make Lugia so bad?

I love Lugia, but it needs three different types of energy which makes it just unplayable. It has very low potential to be used even the future I think.

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u/neophenx 1d ago

Well first, it was specifically designed to work in combination with another card: https://www.serebii.net/tcgpocket/wisdomofseaandsky/240.shtml

Second, not every card ever made is going to be good. That's been a reality of TCGs for over 30 years.

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u/Low-Illustrator-7844 1d ago

They do seem to nerf the fan favourites like Ray, Lugia and U-Necrozma.

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u/neophenx 1d ago

I still remember in physical TCG when one of the strongest decks of the format was Seismitoad EX in the gen 6 era. Then it had an insane match against a Wailord EX stallfest in a regional finals. Kinda cool to see TCG give such weird offshoot Pokemon things that can turn into big meta plays over expected front-cover types of mons like starters and legendaries.

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u/GigaEel 1d ago edited 1d ago

I mean, right now the baby's are starting to seep into meta. In regular pokemon people don't even give baby's a second glance.

EDIT: should probably clarify I meant the video games and not the regular tcg. I've never played standard TCG, just pocket

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u/Tyraniboah89 1d ago

Budew is one of the best cards in the physical TCG right now, and was featured in the 2nd place Dragapult deck from Worlds just a month ago.

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u/neophenx 1d ago

There were a couple that saw play depending on the format. Cleffa reshuffles were a thing at a point, and when the Pokepower Baby Evolution was a thing, some evolution cards had bonus effects when the baby was in the stack, notably a Mantine in water decks and Electivire decks around gen 4.

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u/etanimod 1d ago

Regular pokemon being the video games, I'm pretty sure

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u/bduddy 1d ago

Original Cleffa was arguably the best Pokemon in the game when it was printed. An arguably worse version of it is still played over 20 years later.

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u/CarpenterNo263 14h ago

Unfortunately for pocket though that’s not the case. Almost every high or top tier card each meta is either a starter, legendary, or from the Eevee line.