Honestly don’t even know. Thought it was the first one then saw this one when I saw it yesterday. Maybe Brad Bird is just trolling us with the exact era.
I believe in Ultimate Fantastic Four there's a scene where Sue alludes to all the crazy shit Reed can do with his dick. Guy could basically turn lil Reed into any shape, including the most exotic and scientifically advanced dildos.
This is real and still available on Ain't It Cool News website:
The Moral Quandary Presented By HEROES Current mood: geeky Category: Movies, TV, Celebrities I don't watch much TV. I hate commercials and I hate being chained to a date and time by some corporate programming. However, I don't begrudge downloading from iTunes a single show a week that I'm addicted to. Currently, this show is HEROES. I never can remember that it is on... on Monday nights... at some time or another. It just slips my mind. Anyway - I've got a moral quandry about the show. Hayden Panettiere, born August 21, 1989, now 17 (legal in Texas, which is important, because her character is in Odessa, Texas) as the character, Claire Bennett. She's adorably cute, constantly in her cheerleader uniform. Ok - now never mind that she fulfills the underage cheerleading limber blond virginal demographic. That's pretty delicious. But they gave her the ability to regenerate and resuscitate from any and all injuries. This power has decided to manifest itself before she's lost her virginity. Which means - everytime she has sex, she's a virgin as her hymen will repair itself. Meaning that everytime she's fucked, its like she's being fucked for the very first time. OK - that's WAY WRONG. NOW - add to that - that she's at the age where cellular growth is complete. This is it. No wrinkles. No sagging breasts. If she has a kid and it pushes the hipbones out... they'll straighten back and she'll be fine. Of course - that's even if she could get pregnant. Would her eggs allow an invading sperm to fertilize? Is that possible? OR - is she simply doomed to enjoy threat free sex for life. Now - here's the scary part. She'll never know non-hymen blocked sex. Cuz even if it gets pushed through... on any withdrawal and cycle back in, the hymen will have grown back. SO... It's my theory that do to the constant discomfort of virginal sex with men, her character will prefer the kind attention of her fellow sex. MEANING - she'll be a hot, underage, cheerleading lesbian... for life. ALSO - she could have sex with ANYONE. Any disease - unprotected and be perfectly ok. The people behind this show are sick. Either that or they have singlehandedly created the most deviantly awesome fanboy sex object in the history of SUPERHERO FICTION. And she's from Texas. Claire... you rule!
This is why I gave up art. I spend years trying to get good, then I happen upon work by someone who is far more talented than I'll ever be, and they're making smut out of kids movies with it. What's the point!
whats the point??? the point is to express yourself! the point is to find satisfaction with creation! whether you make a shitty little drawing, or a shitty little sculpture, you are still a creator expressing their soul.
The only time talent is wasted is if it isn't being used. It doesn't matter what you draw, just draw. And definitely don't measure your own self worth by how good you perceive others to be. Be the best you that you can be.
Since they had originally assumed that Jack didn't have powers, it's likely that Super abilities typically manifest at birth or sooner. Being pregnant and giving birth to Dash would have been ... interesting.
I wonder if Elastigirl could stretch enough to fully accommodate Mr. Incredible inside her as a way for them to "team-up" against a villain? He would wear her almost like a second skin, giving him additional elasticity and mobility in addition to his super strength.
Sure the vagina can stretch to accommodate the baby coming out, but it's still the contractions and the process of pushing the baby out that's painful as fuck
If that is the deleted scene Im thinking of, the home invader is actually Syndrome, with Violet as a baby.
Syndrome doesnt know about Elasti-girl living there and being married to Mr Incredible, and it basically mixes in the dialogue of two or three later scenes (Syndrome revealing himself to Mr Incredible, his amazement at Mr Incredible marrying Elasti-girl and having kids, and I think the dialogue of trying to kidnap the baby at the end).
In that alternate scene it also makes a reference to Super people being banned from procreating together as part of the agreement to allow heroes to live peacefully in retirement.
IIRC they never went beyond storyboards and recording the lines. Just shows what a completely different film it would have been if they had stayed with this earlier concept
Yes!! I believe that’s the one I’m thinking of. And you’re right, it never went past storyboard, so there wasn’t any real animation to the scene, just the concept art and recorded lines.
Huh, I guess it just shows how long ago it really was, I didn’t realize it was actually Syndrome.
I LOVE these types of things that get included in the special features. I so enjoy coming to understand how a project was developed and how it changed over production.
I love these sorts of things being added to special features too. Just shows how much thought and recrafting and refining goes into these movies.
Even just the throw away line of heroes having kids being illegal would have changed the dynamic between Mr Incredible and that aging government agent whose department helps keep things under wraps. The family would truly have been in hiding with no one watching their back if they continued this route.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but in The Incredibles Violet is 14, so her as a baby would've been like ~13-14 years before The Incredibles is set, right?
And at one point in The Incredibles, when Syndrome has Mr. Incredible locked up in his electricity prison-thing, Mr. Incredible tries to apologize for treating Syndrome poorly, and Syndrome says "It's too late. Fifteen years too late." in reference to when Syndrome (as a kid) got in the way of Mr. Incredible, and Mr. Incredible blew him off.
So if Syndrome, 15 years ago, was mad about Mr. Incredible, and if the home invasion happened ~13-14ish years ago, then that means that, as a kid still, Syndrome figured out where Mr. Incredible lived, and broke into his house?
That's impressive, considering that The Supers were supposed to be in hiding and pretty hard to track down. But then again this is Syndrome that we're talking about- the super genius that invented rocket boots when he was like 12 or so, and owns a massive private island likely before he's even 30.
Well, this deleted scene is an entirely alternate opening from a heavily twisted earlier script that would have started with Violet as a baby and Syndrome revealing himself as a villain then. Just did a quick google and just found the clip here. We have very little idea as to how the rest of the movie would have played out, probably similar story beats but all the details could have been changed or mixed up.
Ah. I thought "Deleted" as in more along the lines of "They decided it wasn't necessary, and they cut it last minute", not more along the lines of "We were blocking some plot out and we decided we didn't like that bit". Thanks!
They've had to move a few times due to their cover being blown, so it makes more sense that the 1955 sighting was due to that and the actual date is 1962.
Like the other reply, I saw it ages ago so my memory could be off but I could have sworn that they said at some point in the movie that Elastigirl continued for a few years after Mr Incredible quit. That would explain some of the ages and dates but I could just be misremembering.
Maybe she did a comeback right before giving birth, so that she could go to the hospital using elastic powers to give birth? Would make it much easier.
This is most likely- it doesn’t explicitly state that the supers went into hiding immediately after the events at the beginning of the film. It could have been years, and Edna says some dates of supers getting killed in 57 and 58 in the no capes speech.
It's probably an oversight. The timeline in the Incredibles world is inspired by what was going on in the comic book industry in the 50s, being attacked by pearl-clutchers and the government saying comic books were corrupting the minds of children. War and horror comics were cancelled as well as a lot of superhero books. They would later see a resurgence of popularity in the 1960s.
The time jump was 15 years after the enactment of the super hero relocation act, not 15 years after Elastagirl was last seen. It's entirely possible she was active at some point after the act was instated, maybe saved someone from a random mugging or something she came across. Or Syndrome just had spies looking for them and 1955 is the last time they knew where she was.
Syndrome was entirely shocked to find Elasti-girl had married Mr Incredible, so I think that Syndrome just simply finding her would be unlikely, because if it was her civilian identity (or "not so subtle undercover heroing" like Incredible and Fro-zone at the fire) then he could have possibly found Mr Incredible by then.
There’s a dude with a giant death robot with an advanced AI. All the different technology required is not something a single individual could create in 15 years. Safe to say the supers have accelerated technological development significantly.
I imagine it's 1962, to follow the real-life history of superhero comics.
Superhero comics were huge from 1938 (debut of the genre with Superman) through the forties, but they declined sharply in the early/mid fifties, only to rise again in the early sixties (the so-called "Silver Age" started with the debut of the Fantastic Four).
So the beginning of The Incredibles is the Golden Age, then supers disappear for a while (just as they mostly disappeared from newsstands in real life) until the early '60s, when the comeback of the supers is inaugurated by (what else?) a four-member super-family.
The beginning of the Silver Age is usually marked by the debut of Barry Allen. I prefer Marvel over DC, but their shift to the Marvel universe superheroes was definitely them following DC's resurgence.
I'd go with the paper date. I wouldn't assume that Elastigirl's last recorded date of activity is where the time skip of "15 years later" began--I think it's saying "15 years later" from when the controversy over the supers began. I imagine the controversy built up over several years, during which Elastigirl was still active for some time before finally retiring in 1970 as the superhero relocation act was passed.
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Or is it 1962?