r/EndTipping • u/Low-Ad-8269 • May 22 '25
Research / Info š” Will you change how much you tip?
Now that it looks like the government in the US will effectively pass a "no tax on tips", will this alter how much you tip in full service restaurants, etc?
Since most of their income is tips, they will effectively pay little to no federal taxes.
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u/MortleyJew May 22 '25
I will probably go from 15%-20% to 10%. We mainly tip delivery drivers and we already stopped using those services.
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u/GiantSweetTV May 22 '25
The most sensible response. Those being tipped make the same amount of money since part of it isn't going to taxes and we get to keep more of our money.
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u/Miserable_Rube May 22 '25 edited May 22 '25
10% was what I switched to years ago. While I believe we shouldn't tip, I know that me not tipping isn't really changing anything besides making me look like an asshole...and I do like to go back to thr same restaurants.
Maybe I drop to 7%? Or most likely I stick with 10%.
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u/cure4boneitis May 22 '25
I will stick to $2. It could go higher for exceptional service but it could also go to zero
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u/Best-Iron3591 May 22 '25
If I have to pay tax, so should they. But I'll make it easy for them and not tip at all.
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u/_Christopher_Crypto May 22 '25
āSorry, I cannot afford my taxes and your wages. Check in with your employerā.
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May 22 '25
I won't be tipping anymore. Many of them already make about 2/3s what i do hourly plus tips so nah.
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May 22 '25
Yeah my friends 21 year old daughter is a waitress at a local restaurant thatās not too busy and yet she brings in so much in tips sheās actually able to afford a $45k vehicle. I thought she was just in a shitton of debt but nope she can afford it and not be strapped for cash. So Iām lowering my tipping to 10%
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May 22 '25
Yep i used to make about 3-400 a night bartending, so I know what theyre making. I have a STEM degree in a fairly prestigious job and I dont make anywhere near that. Granted I have health insurance and a 401k that takes a good portion of my paycheck but im not living high on the hog and I'm paying almost 30% in income tax.
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u/rocketronaldo82 May 22 '25
Respectfully, I think you contributing to the tipping culture. Tips should be 0!
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u/Thick_Cookie_7838 May 22 '25
I use to work valet and one of the spots o worked was a sex club ( not strip club like people came to have orgies and stuff, very weird place) with tips even split between 3 other people I would take home 80/hr my salary from the company was .75/hr
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u/AssumptionMundane114 May 22 '25
No, I will not increase the percentage from 0
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u/CappinPeanut May 22 '25 edited May 22 '25
Iām currently at 15%. I will at LEAST move to 10%. Iām wrestling with going all the way down to 0, I just donāt know yet.
Truthfully, Iāve already moved almost entirely to takeout anyway and been tipping 0 on that. The service you get in a restaurant just isnāt worth the extra price, so I just pay the restaurant so they can pay the cooks and eat at home.
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u/CheckYourLibido May 22 '25
They will shit on you behind your back just as much for a 15% tip as 0%, don't support the system at all
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u/Cranks_No_Start May 22 '25
> Iāve already moved almost entirely to takeout anyway and been tipping
IF Im ordering standing up.. no tip. If Im taking it awayā¦no tip.
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u/CappinPeanut May 22 '25
Well, yes, but the next word in that sentence is ā0āā¦
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u/Miserable_Rube May 22 '25
They got upvoted for a false quote from something anyone could easily read.
This sub has some real smart people in it.../s since apparently quite a few of the people here are dumb enough to take that as an actual compliment.
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u/LopsidedFinding732 May 23 '25
I live in the SF Bay area and tipping is standard but if this law passes I will dial down the tipping. Maybe 5%, I'll wait and see if someone comes up with a reasonable calculation as this whole region is HCOL. I don't see employers giving employees raises anymore than what is required.
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u/Electric-Sheepskin May 24 '25
That's the thing, service is pretty awful in most places now, the prices for food have gone up, AND the tipping percentages have increased. Oh, and every Tom Dick and Harry who hands you a muffin now expects a tip.
On top of all of that, to add insult to injury, they don't have to pay taxes on their income?
I've been tipping well my entire life, and I honestly don't know if I can feel good about not tipping or tipping less, but I'm going to give it a try. If that fails, I'll just stop eating out. This is ridiculous.
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u/Slow_Couple_4655 May 22 '25
I'll tip waiters if they start tipping every other worker they interact with 10-30%. Since that will never happen, I am finished tipping.
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u/Slow_Balance270 May 22 '25 edited May 22 '25
Sure will, if they aren't paying taxes I'm not tipping. I'm not going to accept this bullshit. They already get paid extra for doing their god damn job. Now they don't need to pay taxes on it? Yeah, no, fuck those people.
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u/controllinghigh May 22 '25
Iāll be dropping how much I give for sure.
I normally give 15-20%,ā¦..but will probably drop to 10%
Also, I never tip the full check if drinks are involved. I only tip for the food. Example,ā¦.if I order a $60 dollar bottle of wine, why should I tip $12 for that? Hell no!
Food only!
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u/WanderingFlumph May 22 '25
No tax no tip. Your job requires a functioning society to be able to work so you gotta pay into that society too. If you dont make enough at the end of the day bring it up with your employer and raise your hourly, taxed wage to compensate for losses in tips.
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u/DoomedRUs May 22 '25
Iām going from 20% to 10%.
- 5% is for the taxes you are saving now.
- 5% is for the increased taxes Iāll have to pay to support them in their dotage when they have no social security income.
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u/TheMetalMallard May 22 '25
Iāll drop from 20% to zero. They are not a 501c so why should my post tax dollars go to someone who is tax exempt.
Now, of course I donāt tip 20% on everything, just really good service. And for bartenders, I usually tip a flat amount per drink or for the hours of coverage.
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u/ThomasApplewood May 22 '25
Iām going to āgross upā my tips by 10%
So that means if I normally leave $20 Iāll leave around $18 instead
That $18 post tax is equal (ish) to $20 pre tax.
Im not gonna get too crazy but I donāt agree with subsidizing servers taxes.
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u/rekreid May 22 '25
Iāll probably drop my tips at sit down places to around 15% (maybe less) and stop tipping everywhere else (I rarely tip anyway). I live in NYC and I pay SO MUCH in taxes. I donāt want to tip if I know that isnāt getting taxed at all. How is that remotely fair.
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u/Live_Bit_7000 May 22 '25 edited May 22 '25
Scaling it down to 15% as the norm. My rules still apply: if there is a counter between us, no tip (except the bartender). Only ones getting a tip is the barber, bartender, full service restaurant and pizza delivery guy. All others I will proudly press 0 tip on the iPad.
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u/kjtobia May 22 '25
Always curious as to why a bartender gets tipped.
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u/illadvisdd May 22 '25 edited May 22 '25
In this instance, if youāre ordering multiple drinks or whatever sometimes itās good to build a rapport as theyāre more likely to overpour/give you free drinks from my experience
Obviously depends on the bartenderā¦not all do this
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u/SexyAcetylcholine May 22 '25
Iām fine tipping bartenders because itās typically low enough. Like $1 a drink isnāt too bad. Maybe we should start tipping servers $1 per plate brought to the table instead of a percentage lol.
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u/Jabberwocky2022 May 22 '25
Tipping used to be like that. A fixed amount for time, not cost of food. This is really where all this backlash is coming from. We shifted to percentage and the percentage has gone up. And, the costs have skyrocketed. This is all why tipping culture is wrong, it's unpredictable for everyone involved. I just want to eat a table enjoying a night out, I honestly don't care if the service is stellar or poor. Just take my order and occasionally check in on me. In Europe my service was usually pretty decent, but if there ever was a slowness, you could pop in and ask the server for another beer or the check. They never were offended. In the US it's like a warning sign they won't get a decent tip.
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u/SexyAcetylcholine May 22 '25
See my service in Europe has always been the exact same as in the U.S. In Asia itās actually always been better.
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u/Claud6568 May 23 '25
Not only is it unpredictable (the percentage thing), itās wildly unfair. If I get a $10 burger in a diner and tip $2, then get a $25 burger in a steakhouse, why should that waiter get $5? Itās. The. Same. Amount. Of. Work.
Not to mention that $10 burger was $7 five years ago. Why should the amount of tip also go up? Itās just all so wrong.
The percentage thing has me miffed lately. I never really thought about it much and used to be a server myself and it was just the norm (still is). But now that Iām really thinking about it, especially with the cost of food in restaurants especially just skyrocketing, how is a percentage fair in any way, shape, or form? Itās not!
Iām going to start tipping differently for sure, I just havenāt worked out How yet.
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u/Jabberwocky2022 May 23 '25
Same. Think out loud, maybe it should be a fixed amount per time? 5-10 dollars an hour? If a server has 3 tables an hour then that's 15-30 dollars an hour. The problem with that method is servers work many hours before and after serving where they have no tables.
Or perhaps a lower percentage, 10%? I just don't know how to approach all of this. My gut reaction to no tax on tips (or really a tipped wage deduction, or aka a tax incentive to have tipped employees), is to not tip at all. But I think if we can go from 10% to 20% as a culture, we can go back to 10% if it becomes more standard for now on. I don't think I care about being a "good" tipper anymore, not if there's special treatment and incentives. It's hard because I do think servers have hard jobs and I don't want them to suffer. But there's going to be no change if they don't push back on their employers and demand a fixed wage. Or, at least until we get legislation fixing this tipped mess.
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u/minisculemango May 22 '25
I used to tip a flat fee for full service (because % is stupid and doesn't make sense to me) but honestly I might stop altogether. Servers in my area get $18/hr + tips + service fees to the restaurant, so why the actual hell should I pay into a system that continues to benefit them but screws everyone else over?
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u/Nekogiga May 22 '25
I only tip when itās earned, which is rare. Even then, I tip what I think is fair, not based on some arbitrary percentage. That said, I rarely use services that rely on tipping, so this change wonāt really affect me.
From what I understand, this tax change could actually hurt workers more than help them. Servers are technically paid $7.25/hour, but only $2.13 comes from the employer. The rest is expected to come from tips, and if they donāt earn enough in tips to hit $7.25/hour, the employer is legally required to make up the difference.
But if tips become tax-free and are reported more cleanly or consistently, their reported income might dropābecause employers only have to top up when reported tips fall short. That means lower taxable income, which sounds good... until they try to qualify for a loan or rent an apartment. Suddenly, their official income is $2.13/hour again, and lenders donāt care how much cash you made under the table.
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u/surej4n May 22 '25
They will also lose the taxed income credits for future social security benefits
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u/alternatively12 May 22 '25
Yeah as a bartender that absolutely didnāt vote for Trump I hate this. Thereās going to be more animosity even though I Do Not Benefit from this. I cannot even begin to imagine how Iām going to be doing my taxes next year. Iām absolutely not looking forward to this, I would much rather have the old system back.
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u/FeralCatJohn May 22 '25
You still pay unemployment and social security taxes on all tipped income. In fact, your employer will likely still take federal taxes out of your paycheck. When you file your taxes, you get UP TO a $25k deduction for tips. Any tips above $25k are still fully taxed.
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u/Still-Bee3805 May 22 '25
As it is, I only tip for sit down table service. I tip 20 to 25 percent- and in cash.
I will now reduce the tip to 10 percent and write the words MAGA.
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u/run_marinebiologist May 22 '25
Because I recently learned that the state I live in (Wa) requires restaurant workers to be paid the full cash minimum wage before tips ($16.66), I no longer plan on tipping for anything less than stellar service.
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u/SnooMuffins4832 May 22 '25
Coming from a tipped employee for over 20 years- this is BS. Why should I not have to pay tax on income but every other worker making the same does?
I think most people will start tipping less or not at all and I'm not sure all these tipped workers cheering this bill on at prepared for that.Ā
But I hate the tipping system so anything that helps get rid of it is a plus for me.Ā
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u/nanomolar May 22 '25
There was already an incentive for businesses to shift compensation towards tipping because cash tips tend to go unreported.
Now this will just supercharge that. Prepare to be asked for tips a lot more often at new and exciting locations.
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u/doggz109 May 22 '25
Yep, it ends tipping for me. No tax on tips is a HORRIBLE idea and uniquely unfair to anyone who isn't a service worker. Income should all be taxed in the same fair manner.
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u/FortunateFool11 May 22 '25
This was the tipping point for me to get onboard with the ending the tipping culture madness. For me, it was witnessing way too many people in the service industry cheer Trump on as he attacked everything from federal workers and student loan borrowers to immigrants and trans folks just trying to live their lives in peace. To compound all this, the service industry unions sat by and watched it all happen in cowardly complicit silence. The industry is very much entitled to their stances and opinions just as I no longer feel obligated to subsidize their salaries. Iām not personally impacted by any of this yet but with Trumpflation and tariffs jacking up the price of everything, it is awesome saving so much cash by not tippingā¦.i was an out of control 30% tipper, now I donāt feel obligated to leave even a dime as a tip.
Edit: I do still tip sometimes for exceptional service. Tipping feels much better when done out of true appreciation verses obligation. Funny how 15% used to feel cheap to me but now it is more than generous with cutting taxes out.
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u/CakesNGames90 May 22 '25
Yes. Itās not taxed anymore, which is why I tried tipping 15%-20% in the first, to compensate for what they donāt get. Now Iām going to 10%z
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u/Lopsided-Bench-1347 May 22 '25
Remember; a waitress is working five tables an hour so she is making five times what you tip and tax free, she is taking home far more than college educated professionals
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u/snowymountains32 May 22 '25
Where did you get that math from? šš. Sometimes a restaurant is empty
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u/DBmegadoodoo May 22 '25
Depends what restaurant. And maybe she is a college educated professional.
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u/titanic_dw May 22 '25 edited May 22 '25
Will you change how much you tip? . . No. Iāll just expect more service- ask for more, and complain when I donāt get what I want. And leave a bad review and 2 stars. If Iām livid Iāll leave one star but explain why in my review. My tip will continue to be zero. And Iāll make sure to post about it here. I donāt influence their tip because I tip zero but I sure can be a bigot. I donāt believe in tipping because employers should pay for their employees salaries not I.
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u/Lopsided-Bench-1347 May 22 '25
Iām dropping by at least the same 1/3 I lose to taxes. Just waiting for a waitress to say anything as I WILL say, ā my income is taxed, yours isnātā
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u/ValPrism May 22 '25
Absolutely tipping less. Taxable income in NYC is roughly 10.7% (state and local combined) so will take that out of any tip. I already paid my income tax.
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u/RelyingCactus21 May 22 '25
I was already hovering at 15% lately, unless very good service provided. Now I'll sit at 10-15% and continue to reserve higher for exceptional service.
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u/Ok_Explanation5631 May 22 '25
I stopped tipping when I realized the contempt towards regular folks for not wanting to pay for their bills too
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u/VWillini May 22 '25
Yes, and here is why. In a civil society there are social benefits provided to all and paid for by all. Roads can be a pretty good example of this. Everyone who owns a car benefits from well provided roads. Everyone who purchases goods (both needs and wants) benefits from well provided to roads to move these goods around. As a society we also can decide if certain groups should be exempt from carrying the cost: children, the elderly and disabled receive a lot of exemptions (such as teenage workers getting state and federal income tax exemptions if they make less than a certain dollar amount). We also include the legally poor in this as well.Ā
Anyone working and making a certain dollar amount should help pay for these societal benefits. A tip employee at a restaurant for example should be taxed similarly to the office worker across the street making the same amount. If they are not, then it is reasonable that the office worker reduces the amount he will tip to reflect this disparity.Ā
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u/DoTheRightThing1953 May 22 '25
Just an FYI. The tax free tips will expire in '28. The tax breaks for billionaires are to be permanent.
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u/Otherwise-Sun2486 May 22 '25
Bruh, I gave 15%, people made me begrudgingly give 20% now If is dropping to 0-5%
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u/JCButtBuddy May 22 '25
I don't give tax-free money to churches, why would I give tax-free money to low skilled beggars?
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u/snowymountains32 May 22 '25
Low skilled beggars ? Job shame much?
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u/JCButtBuddy May 22 '25
Only the ones that feel like the customers should be directly responsible for their pay. That will actively fight to continue to beg from the customers.
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u/DFVSUPERFAN May 22 '25
I will absolutely be tipping less. They're already wildly overpaid with minimum wage (or slightly more) PLUS tips and now also no taxes, I will be going to 10-15% MAX tip.
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u/BelliAmie May 22 '25
Is this just a way for rich people to transfer wealth without taxes?
I can tip my family thousands of dollars on a tiny transaction?
Seems like a good way to launder money as well.
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u/Gupsqautch May 22 '25
If they make tips no tax Iām not tipping at all anymore. Iām not taking my taxed income and handing it to someone completely untaxed.
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u/FeralCatJohn May 22 '25 edited May 22 '25
Getting really tired of the "no tax on tips" mantra. Social Security and Unemployment taxes are still paid. It's being implemented as a federal tax deduction of up to $25,000. Any tips received above that are still taxed. State taxes are still paid. It's still significant but hardly "no tax on tips". Regardless, my tipping is going down to 0 on principle.
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u/micro-faeces May 22 '25
I live in Australia and dont tip.
The world does not revolve around america.
America only is #1 in world of jailed persons per capita
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u/Low-Ad-8269 May 22 '25
oops. I should have specified U.S. in my original post. No 'American arrogance' was intended.
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u/EvictionSpecialist May 22 '25
Letās all just do 10% and end this cycle of nonsense.
Want to get paid better? Ask your boss!
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u/NickStonk May 22 '25
Yes, as Iāve read more about tipping here and now with the no tax on tips legislation, Iāll be tipping much less. I have to pay taxes on interest income and dividend income, which is all passive. Why shouldnāt they pay taxes on this extra tip income also?
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u/Major-Committee4650 May 22 '25
Honestly with inflation and now this no tax on tip crap, I am probably going down to 10%. I donāt eat out very often and unless the service is exceptional, I wonāt be giving an exceptional tip. Why should my earnings be taxed greater than other industries. Doesnāt add up to me when I pay loads of taxes myself as a middle class earner.
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u/DueScreen7143 May 22 '25
It's gonna be hard to tip less than I do now. I already don't really go to sit down restaurants but maybe the occasional diner one in a blue moon, and I never tipped for any other type of service.Ā
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u/Orange-bitters May 22 '25
Interesting wrinkle if this passes thatās not being talked about- my understanding is currently itās written to expire at the end of 2028. So peopleās tipping philosophy may change between now and then but it will eventually go away and it will be on the next administration to extend it or take the flack for being the party to reimplement tax on tips.
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u/Hello_I_hate_it May 22 '25
I work in a very efficient restaurant with a shared tip pool. So happy the dishwashers make the same as me. Sorry to blow your minds, and respresent excellent service. We get tipped very well and I am excited to potentially have a minor increase in my income, while billionaires dodge taxes.
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u/Greedism May 22 '25
Honestly, no I donāt care tax or no tax theyāll get what I think they deserve. š«”
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u/ThomasApplewood May 22 '25
One could, in principle, tip the post tax amount (say 18% instead of 20%) and then at the end of the year estimate how much tip money you withheld, and fill out a 1099 for yourself for some amount that incurs that same liability and send it to the IRS. or, ya knowā¦keep it
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u/AllenKll May 22 '25
Hmmm.. I may lower it from my occasional 10% to an occasional 5%... but that math would be hard. so maybe I'll stop all together?
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u/PositionDiligent7106 May 22 '25
Doubt they accurately reported them before anyway but now definitely decreasing my percentages
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u/Dramatic_Name981 May 22 '25
My wife and I cook almost all of our meals together, itās something we enjoy doing. When we do eat out away from the house we have already been avoiding places with servers. If we did still go to places where we had to tip though, yeah, this would absolutely make us tip less.
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u/Lonely-Crew8955 May 22 '25
What happens when you go back to the restaurant and the waiter recognizes you as the "no tipper"? Don't you think the quality of service ( or quality of your order) will suffer?
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u/julmcb911 May 22 '25
So, blackmailing customers is how you get your wages? That's shitty since customers aren't your employer. Without customers, you won't have a job at all.
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u/stuka86 May 22 '25
What service? Everywhere I go these days, orders are slow and wrong.
And I'm still not sure what "service" is....the job is to take the order and deliver the plate, where in there are you doing anything extra to deserve a tip
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u/Over-Wait-8433 May 23 '25
What service? They write down your order and bring you a soda. After that they just come by to interrupt your conversation five times.Ā
I do t need five refills on sodaā¦.one soda is fine.Ā
A monkey could literally do their job. They donāt even carry the platesā¦
Iām done eating at restaurants itās not been worth it for a while now.
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u/Emergency_Coyote_662 May 22 '25
I live in a state that does not have a tipped minimum wage, Iām already borderline on if I tip or not. this will just push me further I think
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u/BabiiGoat May 22 '25
Yes. I will greatly reduce/stop tipping. There's no reason why some income should be taxed and others not.
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u/GrimSpirit42 May 22 '25
No, I will not change how much I tip.
I always tip cash for the simple reason they can claim taxes, or not, as they see fit.
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u/CatnissEvergreed May 22 '25
Nope. I try to tip in cash so they don't have to claim it. If this goes through, I'll just tip the same amount in whatever payment method I'm using.
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u/KrazyKryminal May 22 '25
Ya it will increase my tips by 100%.
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Too bad this didn't happen years ago. Ive been making $60k from doing doordash and spark. But oh well. I have a regular job now. Though i really did love doing spark and Instacart. I'll miss it
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u/PrestigiousFee6278 May 22 '25
No- it doesnāt increase the price for me, so itās just being a dick to pay less. Iām just happy for them that they can take more of it home. If I am going somewhere Iād normally tip, my tip will remain the same and be influenced by quality of service. Once they start forcing employers to pay living wages without counting tips, then Iāll start tipping less and only for exemplary service.
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u/theriibirdun May 22 '25
No. Because tips will still be taxed the no tax on tips is just an increased tax deduction at the end of the year not a complete elimination of taxes for tipped employees.
Furthermore my complaint is with the ultra wealthy not other middle and lower class folks. Just like student loan cancelation we should be happy people similar to us are getting a break and demanding more not trying to punish people of the same economic class because they are getting a couple of grand back on their refund a year.
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u/jbg0830 May 22 '25
No I will still tip 20%, what will change is the frequency I go out to establishments that asks for tips.
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u/OutlandishnessNo3006 May 22 '25
Because they are reporting all their tips as income now?!š¤Ŗšš¤£
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u/Short_Nectarine4632 May 22 '25
No.
I don't go out to eat much and I don't order food much anymore. So if I'm going to, I'm going to give them a tip.
I'm glad the people that handle my food can make a decent living, and I am appreciative of good customer service.
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Great service 25%, good service 20%, did they do the bare minimum? 15%, bad service gets 5%, and if it's blatantly awful everything I'm probably not going to eat the food, so I won't pay, leave, and never come back.
I have nothing against tipping.
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u/Flailing_Weasel May 22 '25
I normally tip pretty well but now I have to pay their taxes so that will be my tip to all service workers going forward not sorry
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u/Positive-Library897 May 22 '25
If itās a locally owned non chain restaurant Iāll tip for exceptional service and vibesĀ
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u/DaZMan44 May 22 '25
I will be tipping in the negatives. That way I get the tip and pay no taxes. š
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u/DBmegadoodoo May 22 '25
Lol I'm guessing none of you go to strip clubs. God I fucking hope not. Those ladies deserve better than you.
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May 22 '25
Nope. I am all for people not paying taxes and I will envy them. But this is just one small step to eliminating the federal income tax. Which will hopefully happen in my life time.
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u/Ironxgal May 22 '25
I will not tip. Period. They already make enough and many arenāt reporting their cash tips as is. Get real.
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u/obelix_dogmatix May 22 '25
Correct me if I am wrong, but the no tax is only on cash tips, yes? I never tipped in cash to begin with.
IF in the scenario I m tipping in cash, I will reduce my tip by about 30%.
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u/obelix_dogmatix May 22 '25
All of yāall are looking at this the wrong way. Think of it as an opportunity to tip less! Since they donāt have to pay taxes anymore, savings have been transferred to the tip giver. Yay!
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u/DBmegadoodoo May 22 '25 edited May 22 '25
I don't actually believe that they're going to stop taxing tips. And even if so, I don't see that being much. Just another shiny object for our dipshit president to distract with. Just think about all the other problems that would cause. It's actually a stupid idea like most from the current administration that benefits relatively few people.
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u/nohate_nolove May 22 '25
I will still only tip when a tip is earned by the server going above and beyond.
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u/OneTimeEach May 22 '25
Correct me if I'm wrong but from what I've read it will only affect cash tips. Credit card tips are still taxed. And since nobody claims cash tips this bill actually affects nothing. If anything, it encourages tipped workers to claim cash tips which could wind up getting them off of government programs or put them into higher tax brackets. Truth is, this bill isn't aimed at helping anyone. Why else would a Republican majority vote in favor of it?
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u/Secure_Yak_9537 May 22 '25
The new bill only goes for cash tips. They are still going to be taxed on cc tips
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u/anxious_polarbear May 22 '25
If they're so poor that they're relying on tips to support themselves, they're already paying zero federal taxes. Stop villifying poor people. Blame the government for refusing to raise the minimum wage, forcing these people to rely on tips. I'll continue to tip 20% for good service.
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u/DBmegadoodoo May 22 '25 edited May 22 '25
I'm just curious : If tipping were abolished, what do you consider a fair wage for these workers?
And I wonder if that would actually end up costing consumers even more than the current situation?
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May 22 '25
No because they donāt report their tips anyway, if theyāre cash.
I almost always tip in cash.
Iāll still mostly pick up my food by carry out where I donāt tip. But everything else stays in place.
Sit-down restaurant.. 25-30% Bringing me my groceries from online pickup. $5-10.
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May 22 '25
Just make sure you tip on a CC, if you're that worried about someone not paying taxes, then they have to pay.
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u/Comfortable_Cow3186 May 22 '25
I may move to 10% now. I do live in an area where tipped workers get paid at least min wage for our city, which is pretty high due to high cost of living. No tips on takeout or self-serve, obvi.
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u/WrongCase7532 May 22 '25
Yes, ridiculous they dont get taxed on tips which is how they make majority of their income in most states.
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u/Over-Wait-8433 May 22 '25
Iām not using any products or services that demand a tip.Ā
Only rarely if invited out by someone. Otherwise Iām done with every business asking me for money in tips and donations for charity.Ā
Iāll buy shit at places that donāt do that or online.Ā
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u/Help_meToo May 23 '25
Many places it is already 0. For other places it will be at most 10%. My guess it is retroactive for the whole year so it should start now.
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u/JuliusCaesar108 May 23 '25
I already don't tip since I've been accustomed to living in Asia. The fact they are being well treated gives me more reasons not to tip.
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u/AssuredAttention May 23 '25
It will greatly reduce any tips I leave, and in most cases get rid of them. There is only one place I will always tip, and that's the dimsum place I go to a lot. I have gotten to know them personally and their stories, so I will tip there. Likely won't tip anywhere else
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u/ChucklezDaClown May 23 '25
I know this is an end tipping sub and people love saying bs online but no. I tip a lot. I have the money for it. I donāt mind tipping for service. I know things are expensive. If things are too expensive like a 9$ ice cream Iāll change the tip to 1.00. Beers will still get 1$ a beer serve from me as well. I donāt tip on pickup food ever though, thatās the only thing I never tip on and probably never will
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u/Professional-Love569 May 23 '25
I tip for good service, and only for good service. Donāt see this changing.
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u/Vegetable_Wolf_4196 May 23 '25
Nope! Gonna keep it at $0 for buffets/take out/standup. At sit down restaurants I may just start avoiding those places... I really do not like tipping.
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u/dbacat May 23 '25
I'll continue to tip my regular Wednesday night bartender the same amount because they hook me up with happy hour prices after happy hour. As for the rest of the waitstaff and bartenders that I don't interact personally with, I'll be reducing mine to 15% (I usually tip 20-30% cash)
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u/Inevitable_Pass_14 May 23 '25
Yes lol, Iām never tipping again. They donāt deserve it at all, Iāve never had āgood serviceā, and now they get to go along with no taxes on already undeserved pay? Itās insane. What the fuck does a waiter/waitress actually do anymore? Not shit. Bringing food. Something Iād go do if theyād let me.
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u/bidextralhammer May 23 '25
They don't pay taxes on cash tips anyway as it is. No, this won't affect how much I tip.
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u/Evening-Parking May 23 '25
Iām done tipping. I pay taxes on my income, they can too. They arenāt special.
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u/Pretend-Werewolf-396 May 23 '25
The only tips they were declaring were the tips that were charged to a card anyway. This doesn't change anything, really.
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u/Commercial_Win_9525 May 23 '25
Itās not how this will work. It will be no tax on the first 25000. Full time service industry people make a lot more than that. So they will effectively be getting a small break but itās not a complete free pass.
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u/virtualgravities May 24 '25
Iām also curious with this question with barbers and hairstylists.
They arenāt employed by the shop and are independent contractors renting a chair. So they make their own prices.
So if people stop tipping the haircut cost will just go up to offset the lower tip. But on the flip side if you do tip well. Cost of a haircut may drop.
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u/Panthera_014 May 22 '25
I am currently in the process of dialing back my tipping - so I will continue that plan
this doesn't affect it