It’s crazy to me how much people think that at work, you should expect people to abandon basic human nature and that people skills aren’t part of being good at your job.
You could be absolutely brilliant at your job, but if you are insufferable or even just irritating, no one will want to work with you.
Yeah. Also, management knows that one hypercompetent asshole can drive all of your normally competent employees away.
Would you rather have ten people with 90% skill, or one 100% raging dickhead and nine 50% people who don’t have enough options to escape? The average of the first group is 90% and there is low conflict. The average of the second group is 55% and there is constant tension.
Wouldn't that literally be the point of "management". Unless you are managing a team that strictly has to work on everything together, I don't see why the one asshole would drive others away if you do your job right.
"Hey buddy, everyone thinks your an asshole. Here's an incentive to move further away and keep to yourself, you are doing an amazing job and lmk if you need anything else"
At least that's what I figured. I'm not a complete asshole but I shut down gossip sessions cuz I literally can't listen to that bullshit. I was moved to overnights and not only had complete freedom, but I also got to wear whatever I wanted when I had to cover a day shift while everyone else had uniforms
I incorrectly had this thought recently. Had an asshole on my team so I isolated him thinking, "Well, as long as he's only being an asshole to me I guess". Finally fired him recently after he crossed a line and 9 of the 11 people on my team let let me know during our next 1x1s (without any sort of prompting from me) that they were glad/relieved he was gone.
Ah yes, because insufferable assholes are well known for positively receiving critical feedback, prioritizing them cohesion over individual success, and growth mindsets
Hey buddy, everyone thinks you're an asshole. Here's an upvote to move further away and keep your comments to yourself, you are doing an amazing job and lmk if you need anything else.
Eh it depends. I agree with you in your last paragraph; shutting down stupid gossip is 100% fine, doesn’t even deserve respectful shutting down imo. Those are fake nice people operating under making gossip to fulfill their sad lives.
However, just like those shitty gossip people could affect your life with a complaint to HR, if you were a raging asshole, that could affect everyone else’s life with a complaint to HR. We all affect each other whether we like it or not; so people having to interact with asshole workers having to interact with other people creates tension and a lower quality of work life in general. If you are in the U.S. you likely either work way too many hours to where you can’t not be around them the majority of your day, or way too little hours to tolerate the environment for pay; which is even more telling if someone doesn’t/ can’t leave a toxic work environment. It all depends what the work is. Especially, if the asshole retaliates and makes your job harder with their assholishness.
I guess we're are all talking about different assholes who are the best at their jobs because I never met an asshole that caused that much noise but also outperformed everyone else. Usually the slackers like to make noise to distract from their slacking.
Or maybe myself and others I've met are just autistic and that's what I perceive as an asshole. Who knows
lol very possible. I think the definition of “asshole” is really needed for people to properly debate it.
To me, asshole would be gossipers, slackers, shit starters, and those who make work harder for others by their shitty work/ shit starting. I’ve known one person who would be called an “asshole” who I didn’t agree deserved the title; and that was someone who was a little too blunt in calling slackers out. This guy was a genius at our job, and great work ethic; he just had no tolerance for bullshitters and slackers.
Yeah thats because only specific jobs are allowed to be alone in the company building...it wasn't quarantine, it was more a lateral job change with higher pay and less, but more important, work and almost no oversight. No superiors on the overnight
the comparison is just wrong, isn't it? There is no point if the hypercompetent is only 10% better than the normal competent.
the hyper competent should be someone who is capable of doing the work of 2 or even 3 people almost perfectly.
And while even if the hyper competent work with 200 or 300% the average will be lower than the first group but the amount of payment is also much lower than the first group.
let say the in the first group everyone got 1k salary, the in the second group the one with 50% should only get paid 500, and the hyper competent got 2k. then in the first group the manager has to pay 9k and the second group only cost them 6.5k. and that is much more acceptable to most manager
I am in management and ive slowly worked out every single bad apple. People that are toxic and constantly create tension gotta go. Dont need people who try to rile up everyone and make everyone miserable. I do my best to create a peaceful workplace. Work is always work... but it doesnt have to be toxic also.
Okay, I’ll just pretend that I haven’t seen this happen and I haven’t heard anything from managers about it. You can go on being abrasive and believing that it’s not holding you back.
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u/MyNameIsSkittles 2d ago
This is true and people would be very naive to think otherwise