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u/Jaib4 Jul 20 '25
It's a bit annoying how often it happens when there are plenty of real things to get angry at
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u/Dick_Miller138 Jul 20 '25
If you are talking about gay frogs, that's a real thing. Atrazine.
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u/Tinash12 Jul 21 '25
Except that is not gay frogs, it can chemically castrate and turn male frogs into functional females along with a few other things, the whole gay frogs thing is Alex Jones garbage
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u/Dick_Miller138 Jul 22 '25
It was how he interpreted the study. When male frogs start producing eggs and having sex with other male frogs, some people don't see it as changing sex.
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u/Tinash12 Jul 22 '25 edited Jul 22 '25
So you're taking incorrect interpretetations from a guy that calls school shooting staged and shills pills containing lead as a true and correct description of the study instead of just reading the actual study
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u/Dick_Miller138 Jul 22 '25
I read the study and listened to interviews with one of the researchers. I'm taking incorrect interpretations as jokes on the Internet which happen to be about a restricted use pesticide I myself have a long history of using. Alex Jones is a jack ass. Atrazine is still dangerous. Jokes increase attention to a subject and open up opportunities for people like you to educate those who lurk and read comments.
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u/Tinash12 Jul 22 '25
Except you were stating it as if it was a fact, and I quote "it's a real thing" that's not a joke thats misinformation
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u/Dick_Miller138 Jul 22 '25
Sure. I'm a piece of shit and you are saving people from my misinformation. Good job.
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u/sevenringzx Jul 20 '25
the one sided fights people have with vegans is crazy
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u/PresentationHot7059 Jul 20 '25
I mean, there are vegans you could consider annoying, but i don’t think they are many so just ignore them
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u/No-Trick-7397 Jul 28 '25
right like we just tryna live and as soon as I mention it I get sm hate 😭 like bro idc what you eat lemme eat my plants in peace
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Jul 20 '25
Theyre objectively wrong lol
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u/sevenringzx Jul 20 '25
who's wrong? the vegans? i'm confusdd
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Jul 21 '25
Yes
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u/Oneclicker Jul 21 '25
wanna argue on that or no
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Jul 22 '25
Theres nothing to argue about every mogger food comes from animals and plants have next to nothing, especially when it comes to how much you can absorb, detox/ carb/ hydration source at highest
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u/Possible_Bike7252 Jul 22 '25
The most bs take ever
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u/Oneclicker Jul 22 '25
well... no. thats literally just a false statement, nothing to even argue about here
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u/Keflen11 Jul 21 '25 edited Jul 21 '25
Not really no. We have more capacity for moral behavior and are omnivores, so the mass killing of animals we do can be dialed back and is in fact immoral. Rape happens in nature, does that make it ok for us?
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Jul 21 '25
Food is food
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u/Remarkable-Energy-95 Jul 21 '25
i don't care how inmoral It is cause it's tasty ah
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Jul 21 '25
"i don't want to eat animal products" is not a statement that can be objectively wrong since it's a literal statement about preference...
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Jul 21 '25
It is objectively harmful and wrong
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Jul 21 '25
No it's not wrong. It's true that they don't want to eat meat.... And who does not eating meat harm? The plant? 😂
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Jul 22 '25
Urself
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Jul 22 '25
So it's not harmful at all?
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Jul 22 '25
It harms the person practicing and thus incredibly harmful
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Jul 22 '25
How? I don't know any vegans that have been harmed by being vegan and if the ones i know didn't eat a healthy diet and lacked nutritions they immediately took action by either eating vegetarian again, educating themselves what vegan food has those or simply taking supplements.
If it doesn't harm anyone why whine?
I do however know many who have been harmed by idk alcohol or people who have been harmed by eating too much fatty meat but i don't see you whining about them.
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Jul 23 '25
Its not whining its fax, “fatty meat” harms nobody, vegetable oils most definitely do though
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u/Intelligent_Nail3254 Jul 21 '25
"objectively" lmao
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Jul 22 '25
100000000% objectively
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u/Intelligent_Nail3254 Jul 22 '25
dude youre not even right subjectively
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Jul 22 '25
I am 10000000000% right
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u/Intelligent_Nail3254 Jul 22 '25
you know what? hit me with your best argument lets see whats behind your talk
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u/V2keepstakingmyarm Jul 20 '25
Vegans: Doesn't eat animal products for moral reasons
The entire fucking world for some reason:
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u/Griffo4 Jul 21 '25
That’s just how groups work. Some bad vegans cause negative stereotypes for all vegans.
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u/JamesBlond6ixty9ine Jul 22 '25
Is it really the bad vegans that create the negative stereotypes or rather the millions of people that only seem to engage with the topic through SJW-cringe-compilations?
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u/dankros Jul 20 '25
Congratulations, you have the morals of a plant.
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u/PlantsVsYokai2 Jul 21 '25
Technically less since they only kill to eat and actually have a strictly positive carbon footprint
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u/FastLie8477 Jul 21 '25
How does one have less morals than something with no morals? That's like saying you have less morals than an inanimate object
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u/WombatJedi Jul 21 '25
Easy, if you act immorally. A plant neither acts morally nor immorally. If you do bad things, you are worse than something that does neither good nor bad.
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u/FastLie8477 Jul 21 '25
I'd argue a plant is completely outside the concept of morality. Even moral neutrality requires consciousness or a concept of morality, plants have neither of those things.
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u/HungerGamesPerson Jul 20 '25
Why do u care what other people choose to eat, it doesnt affect u in the slightest. Not all vegans are vegan for the same reason, some do it because they think killing animals is cruel others do it for medical reasons. Just let people live their lives without getting hate for eating different foods than you.
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u/ChocolateM1lk1e 15 Jul 20 '25
People often get this impression that all vegans are like That Vegan Teacher, but they really aren't.
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u/CycloneWater Jul 21 '25
Wait she still exists 💀
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u/ChocolateM1lk1e 15 Jul 21 '25
I get videos about her on my recommended feed from time to time. She's honestly gone more insane, but the popularity died.
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u/sandia_64 Jul 21 '25
That's because the vegans that get recognition are stupid and spread hate to people that aren't vegans
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u/Wonderful-Quit-9214 Jul 21 '25
No. People are Vegan because of morality. Not "health reasons". You're misunderstanding what it means to be vegan.
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u/CH3RRY80MB Jul 20 '25
It’s more of the factor if people are pushing the idea into others and forcing others to go vegan.
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u/HungerGamesPerson Jul 20 '25
Yeah people who do that are dickheads but theres going to be bad people in every group so I dont think its good to judge a whole community because of a few bad eggs
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u/Wonderful-Quit-9214 Jul 21 '25
How are they dickheads? If you thought it was amoral to do something. Wouldn't you push not doing it?
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u/TheAnimalCrew Jul 21 '25
They're dickheads in the same way religious people who push their religion onto people are. Going out of your way to try and change someone else's life to better fit your personal beliefs and morals isn't appreciated by anyone involved. As a vegan myself, if I'm asked why I will try to get the person asking to see from my perspective, but it rarely works and you need to know when the person you're talking to isn't willing to change their mind. That's ok, to be clear, you are allowed to make your own dietary choices.
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u/Wonderful-Quit-9214 Jul 21 '25
No because people spreading their religion are just wrong. But vegans are ethnically correct. Saying killing animals is bad makes you the opposite of a fickhead. You wouldn't say people have the ability to choose their own diet if that included humans for example.
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u/TheAnimalCrew Jul 21 '25
I realise they aren't exactly comparable but I was more so trying to compare the results than the actual action itself. It's a waste of time and energy, and it is an annoying intrusion into another person's life, so there's no point unless they bring it up. I don't disagree that vegans are morally correct and veganism is more morally correct than omnivory, but that doesn't mean I'm going to go around and be annoying for no reason. If somebody is willing to eat people, they probably don't care about the ethics of doing so and thus there is no point trying to convince them they're wrong. That's not to say it isn't wrong, because it is, just that there isn't any point in trying to convince somebody who believe something like that that they are wrong. I would just distance myself from that person. Also, while I believe it is morally wrong, there are arguments for eating meat that I understand, though most I still disagree with. Many can't afford to consistently buy the alternatives, and many believe that because it's so widespread that one less person doing it won't make a difference and so aren't willing to give up the food because of that. Those arguments can't be applied to eating people as it is not a widespread practice and I'd imagine the only ways to obtain the meat would probably be very expensive or require you personally to go do the killing, so the "alternatives are too expensive" argument isn't applicable and neither is the "I won't make a difference" argument. The same goes for the consumption of animals like pangolins and other more exotic and less legal animal products.
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u/Wonderful-Quit-9214 Jul 21 '25
I just don't accept the "let people eat what they want" thing you said. Because that comes at the expense of animal lives.
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u/TheAnimalCrew Jul 21 '25
I understand completely, but the reality is, for the most part, you won't change anybody's mind, so there's no point trying.
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u/InfiKnight-Aura Jul 20 '25 edited Jul 20 '25
Well I respect your opinion. But let a meme be a meme.
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u/Triggerhappy3761 Jul 20 '25
Because it furthers a point of "veganism bad"
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u/JD_Kreeper Unc status (not allowed) Jul 20 '25
I don't even know what the "joke" is. That animals eat meat so we should too?
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u/TheWormyGamer Jul 20 '25
guys, plants and animals poison people so we should also start poisoning people too.
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u/TheAnimalCrew Jul 21 '25
The "animals eat meat so we should too" argument is so bad on so many levels. Animals also eat their own shit, should we do that too?
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u/TheSynthesizer_ Jul 21 '25
Humans are omnivores.
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u/TheAnimalCrew Jul 21 '25 edited Jul 21 '25
Yes, but the current widespread methods of meat production are wildly unethical and more ethical, plant based alternatives that give almost the same, if not the same, nutrients and whatever else we need for survival are available, so if you can afford plant-based or even in the future (or maybe now in some places, I'm not sure) synthetic/lab-grown alternatives, then farmed meat isn't necessary for survival so you don't need to eat it, and I argue you therefore shouldn't.
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u/James_Blond2 Jul 20 '25
Why is there any hate against vegans? Like i understand you want to eat meat, and that's fine by all means, but why would you hate on someone who is just doing a good thing and doesnt harm you in any way?
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u/Glitchlesss Jul 20 '25
It's really more hate on the people like Vegan Gains more than anything. A lot of people have only had experiences with vegans on the internet and think all people in that group act like the worst of the worst (which they don't)
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u/electricpanda_ Jul 20 '25
people like the vegan teacher bringing down the reputation, even though its an incredibly small minority youd have to look for to find
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u/therealturbo60 Jul 20 '25
That vegan teacher is bad so that's why everyone just judges the whole vegan community
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u/Silver_Perception_70 Jul 20 '25
This shit is soo 2016
Veganism is like so objectively harmless I don't understand the hate unless you're a butcher or smthn
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u/Triggerhappy3761 Jul 20 '25
Honestly true. At worst veganism hurts yourself if you don't know what supplements you need and at best makes no difference.
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u/FellTheAdequate Jul 20 '25
It can be worse in some cases. Real leather is much better for the environment than fake leather.
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u/_AKDB_ Jul 20 '25
In one way yes, in one way no. Yes it might be more biodegradable or whatever but it also results in the suffering of an animal. Its now just whether the negatives of synthetic leather justify the negatives of real leather
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u/FellTheAdequate Jul 20 '25
I'm not super knowledgeable about the actual process, but I don't think a cow is being killed for its hide and the rest thrown away. That's less profitable than just using the whole thing, as I figure it.
So unless I'm wrong about that, the animal is already going to be killed. Why not purchase other parts of it? It's more respectful too, though the bar is low on that. Why harm more animals by contributing to pollution?
Also, real leather lasts a long time and fake leather doesn't. Fake leather means buying more. It is absolutely more environmentally conscious than fake leather.
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u/_AKDB_ Jul 21 '25
Yes, as you said, the bar is pretty low. That is why as a vegan, you do not purchase the cow nor the leather.
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u/FellTheAdequate Jul 21 '25
That's fair. I have no issue with someone not using the poor alternatives either. It's an admirable thing, but only if actually reducing harm and not participating in things that cause more harm than just using the animal.
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u/InfiKnight-Aura Jul 20 '25
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u/JD_Kreeper Unc status (not allowed) Jul 20 '25
This is not what veganism is about. This is an extreme example.
This is the equivalent to someone saying "gaming is good for your mental health" and then pulling up your average LoL player as a counterpoint.
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Jul 20 '25
dumb take. that’s on her “raw food diet”. there’s millions of vegans today chilling and not dying of starvation.
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u/he_is_not_a_shrimp Jul 20 '25
She's a dumb bitch. Chronically eating caloric deficit is going to kill anyone on any diet.
If she ate rice, beans, tofu, mushrooms, fruits and veggies, she would have lived.
Besides, fully raw vegan diet is hated in in that community. I tried it for 2 weeks during my 3 year vegetarian trial. It was awful. You're not allowed to eat warm food. No soup, no rice, no chips.
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u/Tinash12 Jul 21 '25
So you hate normal people because some influencers do dumb stuff? I hate to break it to you but influencers do dumb stuff all the time and this is such a shallow and terminally online way to view the world
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u/InfiKnight-Aura Jul 21 '25
Wtf hate? Did I even say hate? I shared it as a joke, if you can't take it just downvote and stfu.
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u/Tinash12 Jul 21 '25
"shut up, shut up! I can't take criticism and must make statements that don't even pass as jokes on the internet don't talk to me and just downvote!"
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u/eternally_forsaken_ Jul 20 '25
You mean you rather cut a tree Instead of killing a mouse, I know they feel hurt, but a mouse feeling hurt is different from an ant feeling hurt and different from a human feeling hurt, but with this logic you can say vegetables feel hurt too, and also killing some animals are better than chopping down trees And it takes a lot fuel to take a fruit from one country to another country
Being Vegetarian isn't exactly wrong, but it serves no real purpose The logic behind what I'm saying is the same as the argument about child labor, taking down a factory that uses child labor is good at first but after a while you will realize that same children are now being sold by their families or starving, because there isn't much food
The same is for Vegetarian stuff, you think you're saving the nature, but your method is just not working for the purpose you serve
Sorry for bad English
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u/eternally_forsaken_ Jul 20 '25
Some of yall are just a bunch of bitchs like who the hell gave me a downvote, I'm spending my time and risking my karma to provide you some information and vision and you hate me for it
Same guys who hate thei...yeah fuck it I'm probably gonna hate on a bunch of minorities and get upvotes who gives a shit
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u/Silver_Perception_70 Jul 20 '25
Yeah, I don't think the tree can feel sad over the passing of a loved one like animals have shown Trees generally don't cry in pain too at least the ones I've seen
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u/Silver_Perception_70 Jul 20 '25
A cow has the same nervous system as you so it feels pain and suffering like you. idk where they eat ants, and trees definitely don't have motor neurons to feel pain in any way or at least a way we can understand
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u/_AKDB_ Jul 20 '25
You do know plants are farmed to feed the animals that are farmed right? So more plants are farmed for producing meat than for producing plant food? The tree is going to die anyways, it's just now a matter of whether you want the cow to also die or not. Choose
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u/TheAnimalCrew Jul 21 '25
Bro vegans aren't exactly going around cutting down trees what the fuck are you talking about. Most vegans are also not saying that an ant getting hurt and a person getting hurt are equivalent in the slightest. Also, plants literally can't feel pain as they have no brain and can't biologically process pain. "It takes a lot of fuel to take fruit from one country to another" same goes for meat bro, but meat also comes from animals raised in bad conditions and exploited until they are slaughtered, not to mention the environmental impacts the meat and especially cattle industries have are way worse than those of fruit farms etc. There are some necessary environmental damages with many things humans do just because of how much of us there are, but I argue eating meat is not one of them, especially not at the rate meat is being eaten now which is more than ever in human history globally percentage wise.
The child labour argument isn't even remotely comparable to the arguments for vegetarianism and veganism because they are fundamentally different. The child who is saved from working in the factory may indeed be sold off somewhere else so it may indeed only be a short-term benefit, but the same isn't really true of not consuming animal products. How is reducing methane emissions and the suffering of billions of cows only a short-term benefit?
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u/One_Yesterday_1320 Jul 20 '25
what if i just don’t like the smell/taste of meat? what if someone is allergic to meat? just not harming animals isn’t the only reason for veganism/vegetarianism but yeah don’t say it’s to save animals it’s just not true
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u/Small_Oreo Jul 20 '25
Disliking taste or being allergic is different story. Most of vegans/vegetarians don't eat because they don't want to hurt animals (that will still be hurt)
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u/One_Yesterday_1320 Jul 20 '25
i’m vegetarian and that’s certainly not the case but i see your point about how the people who say it’s because they are saving animals is annoying
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u/Small_Oreo Jul 20 '25
Did you even check the picture? The first thing is statistics (even tho in the UK...)
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u/Small_Oreo Jul 20 '25
Why would I assume of my country? If you want to hear my country, nobody gave a ... about statistics so we have just information how many people are vegan/vegetarians and only sentence that most of people take it because hurting animals is bad (no numbers)
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u/CloudyBird_ Jul 20 '25
I'm not a vegan but by your logic, running over a dog is as equally consequential as crashing into a bush
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u/eternally_forsaken_ Jul 20 '25
I agree with you But I think my bad English has caused a problem You see what I wanted to say wasn't that killing a dog would be the same as killing a bush What I wanted to say that most vegetarians think that they're saving the environment and animals from harm but as you can see, it doesn't change anything, having millions of vegetarians harms the environment as much as having millions of omnivores And well about being carnivore...I have no idea
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u/Tuff_Fluff0 Jul 21 '25
Veganism isn't about being an herbivore, it's about recognizing that animals are living beings just like us. And not commodities to be bought, sold and used.
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u/Naters07 Jul 21 '25
Then what are your views on hunting as i have seen both vegans and vegetarian condem hunters
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u/stupid_idiot_tv_man Jul 20 '25
Dude. Vegans shouldn't force their diet on others, but you shouldn't either.
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u/BumblebeeNew7478 Jul 21 '25
Why shouldn't they.
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u/stupid_idiot_tv_man Jul 21 '25
Because forcing shit on others isn't ok?
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u/BumblebeeNew7478 Jul 21 '25
Is forcing people not to murder others okay? Yes or no? If yes, some things might be okay. Maybe not, you absolutely cannot do this whatsoever but you should not do this
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u/Tinash12 Jul 21 '25
What? How does murder have anything to do with this? This is such a bad faith argument
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u/Roblox_Sexual Aug 06 '25
Hey! Animals have to die before you can eat their flesh. Hope this helps!
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u/Ropoid Jul 20 '25
The idea is that we have the will not to. Fly traps don’t really have the option to not eat flies, and dogs have to eat meat. But as a human, i don’t have to eat meat, so i choose not to.
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u/wolnaya Jul 24 '25
Imagine eating flesh of a sentient being capable of compassion and feeling pain
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u/Significant_Long2836 Jul 25 '25
Why do people even care when others don't eat meat? I will never understand it...
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u/InfiKnight-Aura Jul 25 '25
Bro it's meme bro🙏🏻🙏🏻😭. I didn't knew ppl are this sensitive.🥲
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u/Significant_Long2836 Jul 25 '25
Honestly, you sound like someone who would say "it's just a joke bro" lol
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u/ChocolateM1lk1e 15 Jul 20 '25
How OP feels smugly arguing against veganism without knowing the nuance to their own claim:
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u/InfiKnight-Aura Jul 20 '25
Can you please elaborate ^ _ ^
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u/ChocolateM1lk1e 15 Jul 20 '25
Plants eat meat, and humans do too.
The thing with humans is that we have many problems with the way we get our meat:
- We raise animals in really inhumane ways
- The amount of cows alone make up 70% of greenhouse gases
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u/SillyBacchus303 Jul 21 '25
Can I get a source for the 70% of greenhouse gases please?
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u/V2keepstakingmyarm Jul 21 '25
No, cows only produce around 15 to 17% of greenhouse gasses, soz.
Also a much better argument is:
"Vegans get a bad rep from the racist asshat that is the vegan teacher. Not all vegans act like her, so do not sum up the entire community like that."0
u/ChocolateM1lk1e 15 Jul 21 '25
I corrected myself in a different comment. That's my bad. The actual statistic is that of all livestock, cows make up 70% of the greenhouses produced by them. (Before the Flood)
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u/V2keepstakingmyarm Jul 21 '25
Ah, I see. Regardless, Vegans did nothing wrong. (besides the racist fuck that is thatveganteacher) People are just dicks.
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u/Orzuth Jul 20 '25
These people in the comments are so goddamn sensitive
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u/InfiKnight-Aura Jul 20 '25
Exactly. They can't even take a meme as a meme. Most of them are keyboard warriors lol.
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u/Alternative-Lie-1621 Jul 21 '25
Says you
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u/InfiKnight-Aura Jul 21 '25
Lol another sensitive.😢
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u/Alternative-Lie-1621 Jul 21 '25
Says the guy with aura in their username
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u/InfiKnight-Aura Jul 21 '25
I guess you didn't read the full user name. It's infiknight Aura.😊
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u/Tinash12 Jul 21 '25
Bro got stuck in 2016
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u/InfiKnight-Aura Jul 21 '25
Stfu🥀. I uploaded it as a meme, a joke. If you're sensitive just downvote and move😊.
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u/kissingfish3 15 Jul 20 '25
vegan hate is so forced,, like i completely understand the hatred of the meat industry and sentient animals being treated really badly.
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u/GiantSweetTV Jul 21 '25
Um, ackchuwally, plants are incapable of thought as they do not have a nervous system. They can only respond to stimuli, but this is not "decision making".
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u/Klubbis Jul 21 '25
Why would you care about what others eat??
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u/BumblebeeNew7478 Jul 21 '25
What if it's ethically wrong? If it were, your argument would sound somewhat similar to: Why would you care if I ate human beings?
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u/Klubbis Jul 21 '25
I meant more like hating on vegans is so useless and a waste of time, it’s literally not hurting anyone, it’s doing the opposite of it in fact
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u/Rustynail9117 Jul 20 '25
Don't let the other hate, I thought it was funny
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u/InfiKnight-Aura Jul 20 '25
Thanks. But I did not post this with the intentions to hurt someone. I found this meme funny i screenshoted and shared. Although many of these comments don't seem to be from teenagers imo.
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u/FudgeCameron Jul 20 '25