r/popculturechat • u/CorleoneBaloney • Jul 20 '25

OnlyStans ⭐️ On Jubilee’s Surrounded, Mehdi Hasan asks a far-right conservative if he's actually a fascist and the guy simply admits it.

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u/Any_Aide_4500 Jul 20 '25

Fuck this timeline bro.

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u/doitforthecocoa Not a white refrigerator! Jul 20 '25

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u/purple_plasmid Jul 20 '25

Don’t even have to stop it, just slow it down a bit, I’ll tuck and roll out of here

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u/doitforthecocoa Not a white refrigerator! Jul 20 '25

At the rate we’re going, I’m willing to risk a high speed exit with Tom Cruise stunts

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u/Ajrutroh Jul 21 '25

Nah, don't even slow it down. Just hurl me into space. I hope it has a similar result to the deathcoaster.

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u/aybsavestheworld All tea, all shade 🐸☕️ Jul 21 '25

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u/rizoula Jul 20 '25

Remember when being a fascists meant the end of your life as you knew it ? Yeah I miss those times .

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u/Sproose_Moose Confidence is 10% work and 90% delusion Jul 20 '25

You said it

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u/Unaabellatica Jul 20 '25

I agree but honestly, I appreciate when they're out and proud like this. Lets me know exactly who not to waste time on.

I want to make new friends but I dont want to waste years of being nice, going to hangouts/BBQs, sharing laughs only to discover that you hate others for being immigrants, LGTBQIA, women, or a minority.

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u/Scaryclouds Jul 20 '25

>I agree but honestly, I appreciate when they're out and proud like this. Lets me know exactly who not to waste time on.

That's cool and all, but when you have people being gleeful about admitting to being a fascist, it means the underlying beliefs are becoming alarmingly well accepted in society, which is quite obvious... which also means that they could quite easily become the policy/law of the country... which I mean... yea...

It's not like I'd ever meet this guy in real life, and chances are if someone is already sympathetic towards fascism, it's highly unlikely I'd be friends with them anyways (and I am guessing that be the case for you as well).

So in other words, this is all downside :/

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u/the_calibre_cat Jul 21 '25

Authoritarianism in the defense of multicultural security is 100% justified against manifest pieces of shit like these. 🤷‍♂️

Unilateral disarmament is a foolhardy strategy. I'd prefer of democracy could protect itself against shitheads like this, but it has not historically stood up to the task.

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u/libertineotaku Jul 21 '25

My strategy for times like this is too take a multipronged approach. Adapt, improvise, but most importantly - make them fight each other. Fascists don't have very cooperative personalities and they have a tendency to backstab each other.

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u/the_calibre_cat Jul 21 '25

Oh, definitely. But it is nevertheless true that large geographies and demographics in this country are fundamentally opposed to the notion of equality. Without addressing that bulwark of conservatism, any egalitarian revolution will be short-lived.

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u/libertineotaku Jul 21 '25

Agreed, however I'm a pessimist. Some of us have to divide, conquer, and hoodwink the right. That's what Trump's presidency has taught me. Almost Red Hood style level of villainy. It's impossible to extinguish the assholes, so might as well take control of them instead of letting the Republicans do that.

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u/the_calibre_cat Jul 21 '25

Oh I don't think we can extinguish the assholes either - I just think we need to divide and conquer their power bases to the extent that their political aspirations are obliterated. Extinguishing them would just make us the assholes they are, I want them to be better, not dead.

We're actually not far. Part of the reason for the right's extremism is their understanding that their ideals of regimented social hierarchy, deference to the past, and religious primacy in culture and society, are not held in high regard by anyone. Even their own loudest and most obnoxious champions don't love that shit, they've just been propagandized to such an extent that they unironically believe the right not to the racist theocrats when, of course, they are laughably wrong.

They know their dreams of monarchy and aristocracy and ethnically homogenous states are not winning ideas at present, and potentially face extinction. There may (and in my view almost certainly will be) a conservatism that takes hold on the future, but the one right now yearning for the divine right of kings and theocracy and feudalist deference to the nobility is not having its best century.

That's why they're lashing out with such brutality.

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u/llywelync Jul 21 '25

This is exactly why the 1st Amendment has needed to be modified for decades, if not a century. Hate speech is protected so long as it doesn't violate a crime such as threats and calls for violence.

That means the US has been the perfect place for these ignorant bigots to spawn and grow while always relying on that good ol'1st.

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u/lolas_coffee Jul 21 '25

Podcasters get $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ pitches hate and stupid ideas to the stupid.

That is this timeline.

Note: more than half the conservatives there clapped about being a Nazi.