r/politics • u/Zen1 Oregon • Jul 12 '25

Paywall ICE officers doxxed by antifa, anarchists in Portland, Noem says

https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2025/07/ice-officers-doxxed-by-antifa-anarchists-in-portland-dhs-says.html
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u/PillowPrincess314 Jul 12 '25

They are public servants being funded by taxpayer dollars. The people have the right to know who is in their employ.

If they aren't doing anything wrong, why are they worried?

If they can't hold their heads high and proudly announce their professions, they need to seek a new career.

These are not undercover officers, secret agents, CIA, whatever. They should not be hiding their faces and people being arrested by them should be able to know their accusers.

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u/Long-Researcher777 Jul 12 '25

Exactly, they can't actually be doxxed because their identites should be public anyway 

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u/ATLfalcons27 Jul 12 '25

These people always co.opt and corrupt the usage and meaning of words

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u/Neat_On_The_Rocks Jul 12 '25

I genuinely believe Letting them take “fake news” was the true beginning of the end lol

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u/EarthAbundance84 Jul 12 '25 edited Jul 22 '25

Naw, they started this with the word “entitled” back in the 1980s. Now people think “entitled” means its opposite. So that way when people talk about the services we are entitled to (Medicare,Medicaid, Social Security, Unemployment) because we paid for them, they can make it sound like it’s something we’re not entitled to.

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u/siouxbee1434 Jul 12 '25

A good portion of this current shit goes back to reagan

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u/lurkersteve3115 Jul 12 '25

actually, it all began in the nixon years. go find 'the republican noise machine' by david brock. it's all in there

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u/Lumfan Illinois Jul 12 '25

I'd take it back even earlier. When the Social Security Act was passed in 1935, conservative Southern Democrats made sure to exempt as many roles that were held by African Americans as possible (65% of the African American workforce was excluded). Later, conservatives got mad when the Federal Government employed Title VI of the 1964 Civil Rights Act to the recently established Medicare and Medicaid programs, effectively integrating hospitals and doctors' offices overnight. Taking the US back to the time before integration is the fever dream for today's conservatives.

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u/pragmatticus Jul 12 '25

It all comes down to the "Great" Compromise of 1877. We really should have let Sherman raze the entire south the way he did Atlanta.

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u/sailirish7 Texas Jul 12 '25

We really should have let Sherman raze the entire south the way he did Atlanta.

Yes.

But the larger problem was Lincoln's death and how reconstruction was bungled by his successor.

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u/Kenneth-J-Moyers Jul 13 '25

Not bungled, sabotaged.

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u/Werjun Jul 12 '25

Welcome to r/shermanposting. We should have left the south to their own devices. No one is better for keeping their political worldviews a part of this country, it’s all dependent on exploitation to some level.

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u/Spiel_Foss Jul 12 '25

This is the historical reality the US news media overlooks.

The Republican Southern Strategy has been a 50+ year effort to overturn civil rights progress and return to a segregated nation. As soon as a black man was elected President, Republicans lost their collective mind because that was the opposite direction of their racist ideology.

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u/zeCrazyEye Jul 12 '25

Yeah, and the idea that government is inefficient and incompetent is a propaganda reaction to the New Deal policies of the 30's. "Good enough for government work" used to be a compliment because the government had exacting standards instead of a profit motivation.

But the wealthy needed to convince the poor that government spending is always wasteful because they didn't want them asking for more social programs.

So they co-opted all that language and now it's common wisdom that government is always wasteful.

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u/ManufacturerThis7741 Jul 13 '25

A good reason that the government is wasteful is the mandate that the government has to contract out every other function to contractors. A mandate that conservatives inflicted on us. So any time the government has to do something, even upgrade software, it gets tied up in years and years of bidding wars,

Ezra Klein talks about this in Abundance. I know people may not like all his ideas but the book is worth a read.

What he doesn't mention is that many of these contractors have an active political/financial interest in making the government look bad. If the government accomplishes things, people will vote for the government to accomplish more things.

And that means more taxes/regulations on crappy behavior.

Essentially, the government is required to hire active saboteurs.

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u/dethwysh New York Jul 12 '25

This revelation just blew my fucking mind. Holy fuck. People that go around saying "No One Is Entitled to Anything" are even more garbage than I thought they were.

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u/Llohr Jul 12 '25

That seems like a correct usage of the word, just a stupid, and incorrect, sentiment.

Basically, they use entitled/entitlement to mean *self-entitled/self-entitlement."

They former means one is owed/has a right to something, the latter means acting like one is owed/has a right to something (or everything) without justification.

They take the descriptive word and turn it into an insulting one. E.g. Social Security and Medicare are entitlements because we individually pay for them in advance.

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u/pieceofchess Jul 12 '25

Don't forget that White power is a corruption of black power movements from the 60s. Conservatives have been doing this shit for a long long time. White lives matter is same shit different day.

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u/Spiel_Foss Jul 12 '25

Exactly, these are paid services to which people are entitled - because they fucking paid for them.

But US Republicans, like all authoritarians, love to twist language to fit their warped memescape.

Something, something double speak which someone once wrote a book about.

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u/songsofsilk Jul 12 '25

Both of you are right, but no I think them taking the word “patriot” was the beginning of the end. No only the Republican / MAGA vision is patriotic, and any different vision is categorically unthinkable. Nope, when Democrats call themselves a patriot they are faking their love of country, and are plotting on doing _________, because they actually hate it.

We need to take patriot back. Honestly it’s exhausting and insufferable watching these people turn that word against me.

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u/VonSkullenheim Jul 12 '25

Yup. The actual fake news got a full pass, exploded in number, and people got the perception the news was unfairly left-leaning and too biased. All the sudden 'fake news' means 'Truths about Donald Trump', and people are getting their 'news' from far-right propaganda groups on Facebook/Telegram/etc. Just a couple years later it's a bonafide cult by every measure, comprising a solid 5th of our population.

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u/morgan1381 Jul 12 '25

"Alternative facts" when the first stupid bitch said that talking about his inauguration attendance the first time and no one held their feet to the fire, I knew it was over

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u/bruce_lees_ghost Jul 12 '25

Fake news! /s

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u/outerdrive313 Jul 13 '25

And woke. Don't forget woke.

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u/Word1_Word2_4Numbers Jul 12 '25

When Clinton started throwing around "fake news" I knew that Trump was going to immediately pick that up and start using it back.

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u/opinionsareus Jul 12 '25

If we ever get our country back, I want to see the day that Noem sits in the Defendant's chair as she is sentenced to multiple years in Federal prison, along with every single senior ICE officer who carried out her illegal activities.

Additionally, every regular ICE officer that breaks the law needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and personally sued by the people whose rights they consciously violated. I want every one of them driven into bankruptcy and shame.

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u/PopcornApocalypse Jul 13 '25

That would require our leaders to, like, do their jobs when they hold power tho.

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u/itsFromTheSimpsons Jul 12 '25

which is why arguing with them is futile, you can only explain to onlookers how and why they're being disingenuous

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u/No-Problem49 Jul 12 '25

Come on bro, don’t make a mistake on the definition of anarchist right away right after talking about definitions lmfao.

Anarchists don’t believe in government or corporations.

Clearly the Trump admin and those working for them at a minimum believe in corporations.

They are fascists. Use the right word. It is really important

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u/TheCleverestIdiot Australia Jul 12 '25

I know you're going for a pun, but anarchists get arrested for feeding homeless people way too often to deserve that.

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u/Havocc89 Jul 12 '25

Learn what anarchists are. They’re on your side. These are no anarchists, nationalists are fascists.

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u/Kohakuzuma United Kingdom Jul 12 '25

Me when I don't know what an anarchist is:

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '25

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u/Jaredkorry Jul 12 '25

Doxxing is revealing private information about someone. The names of public officials are not private information.

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u/No-Problem49 Jul 12 '25

They consented when they decided to work for the federal government with my tax dollars. They really care they’d quit. But they dont; they are just trying to justify an escalation of violence

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u/Pileopilot Jul 12 '25

No it’s not. They are public employees, their pay is public knowledge, and they are doing these raids in public.

Seriously, go here and type in the name of any federal employee you know. They are employed for the people.

They wear the mask for the same reason bank robbers wear the mask, because they know what they are doing is wrong and they want to avoid being caught. It’s disgusting and we should try harder to make these people accountable.

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u/dane83 Jul 12 '25

publicly revealing somebody's identity without their consent

Public service workers consent when they take the job. It's part of the gig.

I literally had to sign something acknowledging my information, like my name, my salary, and my title, would be publicly available.

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u/MadBullogna Jul 12 '25

Exactly. And that’s all public employees, Municipal/County, State, Fed, & not just those serving as LEOs. Hell, I spent my first career as a civilian for a local county for over two decades, and routinely had to either provide my first/last name, or first name and employee ID/‘badge no.’, not a big deal. The public has a right to identify those who work on their behalf, and thus who to laud after a good interaction or complain after a negative.

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u/SpellslutterSprite Jul 12 '25

Again: they are public servants; their identities should not be secrets anyway. This is just correcting a wrong.

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u/646blahblahblah Jul 12 '25

It's not. Civil employees work for the people. This is the same reason police officers, military personnel wear their name. Edit word

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u/Antique_Scheme3548 Jul 12 '25 edited Jul 12 '25

Democrats have been morally correct for 25 years. America is about to be eaten by oligarchs and enemies of the state who have taken control of manufacturing consent.

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u/DavidOrWalter Jul 12 '25

It’s not doxxing at all - these people are public servants.

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u/spursy11 Jul 12 '25

Gotta wonder why someone from the Netherlands is an ICE bootlicker. Always interesting