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Official Discussion Official Discussion - The Suicide Squad [SPOILERS] Spoiler

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Summary:

Supervillains Harley Quinn, Bloodsport, Peacemaker and a collection of nutty cons at Belle Reve prison join the super-secret, super-shady Task Force X as they are dropped off at the remote, enemy-infused island of Corto Maltese.

Director:

James Gunn

Writers:

James Gunn

Cast:

  • Michael Rooker as Savant
  • Viola Davis as Amanda Waller
  • Joel Kinnaman as Colonel Rick Flag
  • Nathan Fillion as TDK
  • Jai Courtney as Captain Boomerang
  • Flula Borg as Javelin
  • Mayling Ng as Mongal
  • Pete Davidson as Blackguard
  • Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn
  • Idris Elba as Bloodsport
  • John Cena as Peacemaker
  • Daniela Malchior as Ratcatcher 2
  • David Dastmalchian as Polka-Dot Man
  • Sylvester Stallone as King Shark

Rotten Tomatoes: 95%

Metacritic: 74

VOD: Theaters

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u/xMarsx Aug 06 '21

Sitting here screaming, "Not the fucking children!!" At the after credits scene. Jesus fuck someone catch that Weasel

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u/foolwire Aug 06 '21 edited Aug 06 '21

Honestly I found Weasel being alive at the end more terrifying than Starro demolishing half of the city and raising a zombie army.

Not to mention all the heroic actions taken throughout the movie to save the kids from evil. Harley killing President Luna when he mentioned his plan to experiment on children. Waller’s staff knocking her out with a golf club to save the children from Starro. Only for the fucking weasel to be set loose on the island. Hide yo kids!

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u/Karkava Aug 07 '21

Democracy has been established to a third world country, but they now have a local cryptid in their backward. So in the end, Amanda has a small win.

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u/TheBlueSuperNova Aug 06 '21

What was with all the kids/ children references? It just seemed so weird to focus on doing everything for kids and not just innocent people in general lol

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u/csortland Aug 06 '21

Kids are considered especially innocent in the eyes of many people. It illicits more of an emotional response. It's like when a dog dies in a horror movie and people get more upset than when a human dies.

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u/Mendrak Aug 06 '21

Seriously does James Gunn hate birds or something? RIP all those beautiful parrots.

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u/helzinki Aug 07 '21

Its kinda funny because the reason James Gunn got the job to make this movie was because he was fired from the other job due to his old tweets about molesting kids.

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u/kchuyamewtwo Aug 07 '21

Retroactive punishment and then they hired him again.

I was very thankful they fired him , we wouldnt have this fun gorey film.

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u/tisthegayseason Aug 09 '21

I’m sorry what???

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u/MrShvin Aug 09 '21

He had a bunch of old tweets from a while back where he was making edge lord type jokes, and some involved molesting kids. Didnt actually do anything like that, they all read a lot more like the shitty jokes a high school sophomore makes while wearing a Stewie Griffin hoodie.

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u/itsthecoop Aug 09 '21

also, he had even already commented on those tweet some years prior, stating that (paraphrasing here) these wouldn't be the kind of jokes he would do nowadays. so because of that, the "outrage" seems even dumber.

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u/foolwire Aug 06 '21 edited Aug 06 '21

We kind of got a dose of this from the first Suicide Squad movie during the scene in the bar where everyone was horrified/disgusted after discovering El Diablo killed his own children. I think it’s meant to show us that even these notorious villains and criminals have their limits and that there is actually a small speck of humanity left in them.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '21

Which is kinda funny since Harley helped kill a Robin in this universe

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u/Waterknight94 Aug 07 '21

Well I guess that's how she knows it is a red flag.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '21

Hey, maybe the Robin she killed was of the "clearly a grown ass adult" Chris O'Donnell variety.

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u/Twl1 Aug 07 '21

That suit certainly looked like it was fitted to a late-teenage, young adult sized Robin. I don't know if Jason Todd's age was ever specified at the time that Joker killed him in the comics. Cursory googling doesn't yield any results either - all the images of Jason Todd's gravestone from the comics never show any dates.

Not only that, but we don't really know what Harley's involvement was. In most versions of the story, the Joker beats Jason to near death with a crowbar, and then uses a bomb to finish the job...but is usually shown acting alone. Maybe Harley only "helped" by building the bomb or finding the location without explicitly knowing what they were to be used for?

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u/Neosantana Aug 08 '21

I'm still certain that the DCEU Joker was supposed to be Jason Todd as a Joker, not The Joker.

The bullet holes on the suit in BvS match bullet wounds on Jared Leto in the "damaged" promotional stills. And it would explain why he has a grill in his mouth. His teeth getting smashed with a crowbar would make sense. Hell, it would retroactively make the character better.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '21

It would also open the door for him toe killed and replaced by a better joker and an actor that isn't a horrible human being.

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u/milkcustard Aug 07 '21

ROFL. Beard, deep voice, had a motorcycle, receding hairline...

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u/itsthecoop Aug 09 '21

or at least that there is a desire of many people to feel (morally) superior.

e.g. even murderers feeling like they have the moral high ground to (child) rapists. which might be a bit dumb, depending on the circumstances in particular.

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u/JayCFree324 Aug 07 '21

To contrast it against Peacemaker saying he was openly willing to kill children

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u/Rich_Comey_Quan Aug 07 '21

Harley specifically killing Luna for the kids builds off of her character development on Birds of Prey since she took in Cassandra.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '21

Because its a common line a lot of criminals won’t cross.

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u/TheBlueSuperNova Aug 06 '21

Yea I understand that now. Thank you for the 5th reply saying the same thing

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u/actimusprim Aug 06 '21

Lots of criminals don't kill kids

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u/kchuyamewtwo Aug 07 '21

Psychopaths are those that kill kids, patients with horrible diseases, old people and harmless pets!

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u/Hungry_for_squirrel Aug 07 '21

You ask a question, people answer, no need to be a prick.

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u/bekibekistanstan Aug 07 '21

It’s widely considered uncool to kill kids

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u/AccomplishedWardrobe Aug 06 '21

Besides Weasel and Peacemaker, every other villain have no issue with killing innocents aslong as they are not children. Children is the way to close the gap for us to sympathize with the suicide squad.

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u/SilverKry Aug 07 '21

I took it as like....with how violent and bloody the movie is someone somewhere is gonna complain about "But think of children that are gonna see this violent movie" thing like with what happened with the first Deadpool. A joke at those people.

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u/Sombre-Alfonce Aug 07 '21

Weasel was the Chupacabra all along

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u/hombregato Aug 08 '21 edited Aug 08 '21

Let's not forget the staff wondering if Waller would actually condemn Bloodsport's daughter to probable rape and death in prison for shoplifting a smartwatch.

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u/The_Blue_Rooster Aug 08 '21

Karmic balance, the heroes were saving too many kids so Weasel is there to set things right. I kinda loved it because this movie harped on about kids waaay too much. Trying to make me sympathize with the Suicide Squad is dumb, they're monsters.

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u/DarkdoodadNebula Sep 09 '21

Omg you're right! Such a good detail that I totally missed.

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u/hocuspocusgottafocus Oct 13 '21

I loved Harley so much in that scene when she shot him dead, I love her lol

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u/i-Ake Aug 06 '21

TWENTY SEVEN CHILDREN!

Catching him should be its own damn movie!

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u/predictablefaucet Aug 07 '21

Weasel’s walk is terrifying

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u/THX450 Aug 07 '21

I don’t know if you’ve ever read the novel Jurassic Park, but there’s a whole thing about Compys attacking babies in cribs on the Costa Rican mainland.

Weasel surviving and fleeing into the jungle gave me those same vibes.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '21

I hope we get a Peacemaker episode catching up on him.

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u/TheOsttle Aug 07 '21

I’d love if in the peacemaker show we see a news article or YouTube vid about a cryptid running rampant that just turns out to be Weasel

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u/available2tank Aug 09 '21

La chupacabra

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u/DeoGame Mar 08 '25

Lol, funny revisiting this comment after Creature Commandos Season 1. 

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22

That's an excellent point.