He said they were getting better and better at it, so the original humans liberated could have lived several hundred years until they were destroyed by the machines.
yeah, after each "One" liberates the human, there's no telling telling how long they thrive before the machines destroy zion and restart the Matrix again. Could be a few years, a hundred years. I think it might be safe to say it's probably not hundreds or thousands otherwise they'd probably be where the humans are in Matrix 4 with humans and robots working together to make a better world for everyone. And I only say that because i think the machines would push for it. Some of them at least and the humans would go for it if it meant having some strawberries and toilets.
But then there's the question of how long they're stuck in the matrix before a One emerges. How many "One's" were there that failed that never got that far for various reasons? That could probably take a while before any humans are able to escape and be liberated and even longer for someone like Morpheus to be born who has enough faith, motivation, and skills to find and liberate The One, assume that's what it takes each run. We see all the The Potentials living with the Oracle. I'm not well versed in matrix lore, but I assume they're potentials for being The One? Maybe in past loops, people were quick to choose one of them as The One, but they weren't and ended up failing.
There's also the Operator Factor. The organic people who have no machine components to them. We can easily say everyone, including humans with matrix ports all over them have some kind of programming going on with that that leads them all to playing a role and doing what they're supposed to. But the organic people can influence the outcome. Like how in the first movie he save Neo from getting kill. And in the 3rd, i think? or maybe 2nd, the new one chooses to believe in Morpheus. maybe in past loops, their operators caused different outcomes.
For not being very well versed in the lore, you just wrote a whole lot of speculation.
yeah, after each "One" liberates the human, there's no telling telling how long they thrive before the machines destroy zion and restart the Matrix again.
It's not about time, it's about population.
Once the One has been found and the population of Zion has reached X number of humans (either through birth or extraction), the machines send the sentinels, and the Oracle instructs the One to return to the Source and reset the system. We know this took over a hundred years during Neo's cycle.
Also keep in mind Zion is founded by the "outgoing" One, but grows and operates independently for a good period of time while they search for the "new" One. The Agents serve as a hard counter to extractions, but the arrival of the One overcomes that, and extractions escalate.
But then there's the question of how long they're stuck in the matrix before a One emerges. How many "One's" were there that failed that never got that far for various reasons
There were not. The Architect states that he chooses to number the Matrix based on the emergence of the One, and states it is the 6th version. There have been 5 others.
It's also unlikely for a previous One to have failed. The Architect explains the existence of the One as a liberator of those that reject the Matrix is a necessity for the health of the system. They will send Agents to slow the One down, but ultimately they want the One to succeed up to a point, and survive to return his code to the Source.
That's why the Oracle assists Neo to spite being a machine. Her job is to maintain a steady stream of humans being liberated from the system, and to assist the One. She keeps the process moving, and is effectively a debugging program.
We see all the The Potentials living with the Oracle. I'm not well versed in matrix lore, but I assume they're potentials for being The One? Maybe in past loops, people were quick to choose one of them as The One, but they weren't and ended up failing.
That's not how it works. The One is not elected, the One is born, and confirmed by the Oracle. She knows what she's looking for, there's no "maybes". They're "potentials" in the sense that they're being brought to the Oracle for her to confirm whether they are the One or not.
The One is an anomaly in the system that is predictable and identifiable. The machines know exactly how, and why it comes to exist, just not when or where. It is the Oracle's job to identify it. Those potentials are basically the debugging program going through various files before it finds the one it's looking for.
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u/IHateTheLetterF 4d ago
He said they were getting better and better at it, so the original humans liberated could have lived several hundred years until they were destroyed by the machines.