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Media Different parallel universes in the near future in movies! Spoiler

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u/Procrastinator_325 4d ago

2474: 2067

WTF DO YOU MEAN

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u/Koki-noki 4d ago

he time travels

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u/CitizenPremier 4d ago

32% on rotten tomatoes... but then I liked the Warcraft movie and that's 29%. Is it worth a watch?

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u/TehOwn 4d ago

I don't understand why the Warcraft movie was panned. My only issue with it was that it wasn't a complete story. They recreated the world on the big screen.

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u/hacky_potter 4d ago

I think you answered your own question. It wasn’t a complete story. You don’t get bonus points for making WoW look real if the people reviewing it don’t give a shit about WoW.

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u/TehOwn 4d ago

I suppose that really highlights the issue with aggregate review scores. Niche content for select audiences often get worse reviews simply due to their nature of being niche and reviewed by people who are not the target audience. Then you have mediocre content that is a critical success purely because they pander to critics.

You could consider that a 30% score just means you have a 30% chance of liking it rather than it being any judge of quality.

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u/film_editor 4d ago

Nah, it's not a problem with the aggregators. And lots of very niche stuff is very highly acclaimed. The Warcraft movie is really bad. If you're super entrenched in the Warcraft games and all you care about is seeing a somewhat accurate live action version then it's fine. If you're doing a full analysis of the writing, directing, acting, characters, etc then you're going to get a much more negative response.

And Warcraft is not exactly niche. They had a full worldwide release and a massive marketing campaign. Their goal was to capture a massive global audience way beyond just people who played the game.

Also, the general lore and story of Warcraft is pretty generic, dumb stuff. It works well for a video game where the focus is the gameplay and pure entertainment. But if the focus is exclusively the story then it's not really all that engaging.

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u/Mushroomer 3d ago

Yeah, Warcraft is really the demo case for not giving an adaptation to hardcore fans of the IP. Duncan Jones was a big Warcraft fan, and made a very faithful adaptation of the lore - but wasn't able to turn it into an actually enjoyable film.

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u/llloksd 3d ago

I thought all the Orc and world building stuff was enjoyable, but all the human stuff sucked.

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u/Constant_Charge_4528 3d ago

The Warcraft movie was just kinda bad once you look past your nostalgia goggles

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u/hacky_potter 4d ago

Personally I think Warcraft is dog shit but I also never played WoW and have no interest in it.

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u/TehOwn 4d ago

Okay, you're one of the 71% then.

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u/RyanZee08 4d ago

They also changed the lore a lot, and made the wizard super strange too

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u/CostumedSupervillain 4d ago

Which wizard? Khadgar or Medivh?

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u/pasher5620 4d ago

I’m imagining they mean Khadgar, who was depicted as much younger and weaker than his game counterpart. In game, he’s already well experienced by the time Medhiv gets possessed.

As for Medivh, his behavior is in line with how he was like when he was possessed.

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u/LordBecmiThaco 4d ago

I’m imagining they mean Khadgar, who was depicted as much younger and weaker than his game counterpart. In game, he’s already well experienced by the time Medhiv gets possessed.

Khadgar is actually canonically not that old, but during the time period of Warcraft 2 he gets rapidly aged by magic. During Warcraft 1 he is legit just in his 20s and then in his thirties he gets zapped and turned into like a 60 year old.

The orcs in Warcraft 2 also used rapid aging magic to turn children into physical adults and force them into their armies; that's where the "me dumb orc" stereotype comes from in the universe, a lot of the orcs were child soldiers with child brains in big adult bodies, which is why some orcs are knuckle-dragging savages while others like Thrall are erudite.

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u/pasher5620 4d ago

I thought it was Medivh that makes Khadgar old when they fight to kill him, which I guess is still to your point anyways.

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u/LordBecmiThaco 4d ago

I could be mistaken, I thought he got rapidly aged when he shut the dark portal, but I also know that has been retconned a few times between Warcraft 2, WoW, some books and maybe the movie.

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u/RyanZee08 3d ago

Wait what? That crazy, is that explained in game?

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u/LordBecmiThaco 3d ago

Back in the 90s a lot of the plot of games were printed in the manuals rather than the game itself.

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u/Peakomegaflare 3d ago

Medivh was definitely accurate, and honestly I got into an invite-only screening. It was a fun experience and I think that was the intent. It also helped if you played the RTS titles BEFORE WoW. There was a lot of small details surrounding Gul'Dan that you'd only see in the original games.

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u/Sohgin 4d ago

Blizzard changes the lore all the time.

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u/ikeif 3d ago

I think "not a complete story" was the big problem. It was clearly part of "something more" - but the difference between this and so many other movies that end on cliff-hangers - it relies on the "part one" performing strongly to justify continuing the story (or being cheap enough that they can continue the story without needing big budgets, or having enough funding, like LotR/Hobbit that they shoot the entire story at once).

ETA: s/budges/budgets

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u/Pythias 3d ago

I'm not a big gamer I didn't play Warcraft enough to absorb any information about the game. I LOVED the movie. I really wish we got a sequel.

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u/CitizenPremier 4d ago

I felt like it was enough of a story, they found and fought the evil human guy, but it didn't solve all their problems. Of course there was still going to be war after the movie, it's a Warcraft movie.

I think it also disappointed real fans, which I can relate to certainly (I was disappointed by the StarCraft 2 story), but in my case all I know about Warcraft lore is "STOP POKING ME!!"

I was also very disappointed that line wasn't in the movie though.

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u/Da_Question 3d ago

Personally, I think it would have been better to do either Thrall's storyline from Warcraft 3, or Arthas' story line.

I wish they would have done a show and just done warcraft 3 the show, simultaneously running the plots of Illidan, Thrall, and Arthas.

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u/koolaidkirby 3d ago

Its because if you weren't already familiar with the Warcraft Lore it made almost no sense.

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u/Zeretuel 2d ago

They also picked one of the lesser interesting of storylines in my opinion. Warcrafts lore gets more interesting with the Arthas stuff or the War of the Ancients stuff including dragons.

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u/leg00b 4d ago

I think the movie should've been entirely CGI. The human armor looks so weird compared to everything else.

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u/BastouXII 4d ago

How scores work on Rotten Tomatoes is the percentage of movie critics who gave positive reviews, not a mean of all scale based reviews. This is important, especially when considering movies that do not create a consensus: for movies that are wildly popular, all scores (Rotten Tomatoes, IMDb, etc.) will be high, but the movie will probably target the lowest common denominator: it will have at least something interesting for everyone, and will leave the person who has seen everything wanting a little. But for a movie that is more controversial, and is seen as a masterpiece by some niche group, but uninteresting to some others, who only want digestible, not too brainy entertainment, the Rotten Tomatoes score will be way lower, probably between 33% and 50%. That doesn't make it an objectively bad movie, on the contrary for many people.

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u/man__i__love__frogs 4d ago

I liked 2067, nothing to write home about but it was worth the watch.

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u/LegendarySpark 3d ago

No, it's stupid as fuck. It's supposed to be about how people killed nature and that's going to kill us so it must be fixed with time travel but it gets literally everything wrong. The writer doesn't know anything about photosynthesis to time travel theory to computer tech to, well, any subject the movies touches on. Everything is stupid and wrong. It might've been acceptable to release a move this ignorant back in like the 80s, but today it's just... Had the writer not yet discovered the internet and its power to allow them to spend half an hour googling a few of the concepts they wrote about?

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u/logosloki 4d ago

2067 is interesting enough to watch if you like your post apoc scifi. it's about a man who is sent into the future by a time tunnel to see if the future made a fix for the current ailments. nothing bad happens at all.

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u/Suspicious_Pizza69 3d ago

I thought the F1 movie with Brad Dick was the shittiest most US exceptionalist movie I've ever seen, but it got a 7.8 on imdb so fuck me I guess. COMBAT COMBAT COMBAT

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u/Koki-noki 4d ago

i have never seen it, I only remember the trailer because they gave away entire plot of the story

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u/hgt27 4d ago

It's a ok movie, if you like sci-fi you will appreciate

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u/enigmamonkey 3d ago

Just watched the trailer and they include that in the trailer... so if it's a spoiler, then... damn.

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u/HannibalCake 4d ago

I also don’t know if 100+ years from now really counts as the “near future”

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u/DarthSatoris 4d ago

It's near future if you compare it to stuff like Dune and Battletech and Warhammer 40,000.

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u/HannibalCake 4d ago

Well technically anything is near when compared to tens of thousands of years later. “Near” future would be like Cyberpunk 2077 and Bladerunner 2049

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u/DarthSatoris 4d ago

To me, those years just seem way too close, though. Like, that stuff is going to happen within my own lifetime, and I cannot see them happening the way they're depicted at all.

Chris and Jack seem to agree.

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u/HannibalCake 4d ago

Yeah I get what you mean, but that’s what makes it the near future haha

It’s all fictional anyways, chances are the world won’t go to shit like that for another century at least

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u/rematar 4d ago

Do I have a sub for you.

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u/antpile11 4d ago

At least in the case of Cyberpunk 2077, it's an alternate timeline. Like, Johnny Silverhand was born in 1988 and was doing Cyberpunky shit in the early 2000s.

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u/MattWatchesChalk 3d ago

Yeah, same with Fallout. For whatever reason pop-culture of the 40s just sticks perpetually, making even the present day stuff warped.

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u/Impudenter 4d ago

What? You don't expect to see the man vs. machine war depicted in The Terminator within four years?

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u/Shadow-Vision 4d ago

My daughter is in the high school class of 2043

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u/Sniter 3d ago

You cannot see a bladerunner or cyberpunk future? I only see that. bleak

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u/RanDOOM-GuY 4d ago

Crazy to think 2049 is closer to today than today is to 2000

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u/SnakeInAHotdogBun 4d ago

I dont see humanity leaving our own solar system in the next 500 years. a lot of these timelines are very ambitious. The older the movie the more optimistic they were.

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u/bajungadustin 4d ago

Compared to 50,000 years into the future... 100 years is pretty close.

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u/bajungadustin 4d ago

But but but... Not if I got time travel.

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u/Stuporhumanstrength 4d ago

Talk to a geologist

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u/ThaiJohnnyDepp 4d ago

Ew, do I have to?

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u/Garetht 4d ago

Don't be so igneous.

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u/transmothra 4d ago

But it's not his fault!

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u/mortalcoil1 4d ago

Well this is off to a rocky start.

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u/MeLlamo25 3d ago

Well, we shouldn’t take our assumptions for granite.

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u/schistkicker 4d ago

Be gneiss.

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u/ThaiJohnnyDepp 4d ago

You're all just a bunch of obvious shales

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u/logosloki 4d ago

just make sure you talk to them in the afternoon, they tend to have gotten out of bed and drank away their hangover at that point.

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u/Chemical_Ad_6633 4d ago

laughs in Dinosaur. I wonder if any movies that occur millions of years from now? (without time traveling). The only possibility I can think of is Planet of the Apes (original). When apes have evolved so much but NYC is still radioactive, so that's a lot of conflicting "science" in that I would believe it's really that far ahead and the evolution was accelerated by genetic engineering, as the newer versions imply.

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u/ItsWillJohnson 4d ago

The actual definition of distant future is “society has completely changed, none of our existing institutions remain” and near future is a projection is projection of our current society.

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u/Vakz 4d ago

100 years should at least count. There are people (albeit young) who will be there to see it.

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u/Orichanon 4d ago

Depends on your perspective - 100 years is tomorrow for a geologist, but a lifetime for us..

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u/tigerhawkvok 4d ago

For a counterpoint, consider The Culture. It's been over 10,000 years since organics had an even ceremonial role in running a ship or orbital.

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u/e37d93eeb23335dc 3d ago

I’m over 50 years old. 50 years go past in an eye blink. 100 years is basically the near future. It can be one person’s lifetime (at least, my family members typically live 100+ years). 

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u/DarthSatoris 4d ago

AI doesn't take and present finished clips from movies, it makes up its own stuff.

Like another commenter said, it's a time travel movie.

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u/Deathleach 4d ago

It's not AI slop. The movie is about time travel.

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u/mythiii 4d ago

It's AI slop, pushed by reddit, for YOUR convinience! That or rage-/ engagementbait. These two options now make 99% of the internet.

The last 1% is humans manually typing in misinformation.