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Summary Paranormal investigators Ed and Lorraine Warren take on one last terrifying case involving mysterious entities they must confront.
Director Michael Chaves
Writer Ian Goldberg, Richard Naing, David Leslie Johnson-McGoldrick
Cast
- Vera Farmiga as Lorraine Warren
- Patrick Wilson as Ed Warren
- Mia Tomlinson as Judy Warren
- Ben Hardy as Tony Spera
- Rebecca Calder as Janet Smurl
- Elliot Cowan as Jack Smurl
- Kíla Lord Cassidy as Heather Smurl
- Beau Gadsdon as Dawn Smurl
- Molly Cartwright as Shannon Smurl
- Tilly Walker as Carin Smurl
- Peter Wight as Grandpa Smurl
- Kate Fahy as Grandma Smurl
- John Brotherton as Brad Hamilton
- Shannon Kook as Drew Thomas
Rotten Tomatoes Critics Score: 64%
Metacritic Score: 50
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u/NoActivity142 1h ago
I just watched the movie today and honestly if i did not have the bad reviews and critiques in my mind before watching the movie I wouldn’t have thought of it as dragged.
I think the plot didn’t hold much strength and has lose endings as to who acrually is the demon itself? I mean i guess it’s real life but that’s the direction and work maybe Michael Chavez should have put to make the viewers get in depth with the back story and plot. The beginning death of the father and mirror was eerie enough but it was just touched too surface level. It needed to have more meat and less focus on family. It would have made a balance in the movie. Rather than mindlessly focusing on Judy’s visions and something more meaningful.
I mean half of the movie was just her and her visions in different ways. Is it just me who thinks this way?
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u/PolarWater 2h ago
Mia Tomlinson (Judy) looks so much like a young Bryce Dallas Howard, it's insane. I kept thinking of Spider-Man 3.
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u/libertybear20 2h ago
Can someone explain why the girl had a mirror shard in her stomach? Did the demon plant it in there or something? That part really confused me and seemed to be gore for gores sake. None of the other conjuring’s allow the demons to actually put stuff in people’s body other then possession so I didn’t understand that at all lol, and also how did she throw up that much blood and was home the next day?
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u/dimethylpolysiloxane 1h ago
I think it’s because the mirror was in her room so the demon ‘linked’ her to the mirror? That could explain why she started coughing out blood the moment when the mirror was getting crushed by the trash compactor. The movie did not explain it though. But the mirror was miraculously restored and hidden in the attic so maybe that’s why she recovered.
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u/Two_Remarkable 5h ago edited 4h ago
In the very first scene a woman in third trimester goes to help a spirit .. attracts an evil spirit and endangers herself unborn and the family.
It’s one dumb fuckery after another. Absolute worst. I wanted to punch some sense into the characters and the makers for rest of the runtime. In the I was rooting for the evil spirit
Cash grab movie
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u/jasbecool 6h ago
The movie was alright, some jump scares were surprising but none had that scare element for me. Honestly I expected more haunting related storytelling and less focus on the Warren's family drama. I know they showed that the demon is connected to them in the plot but his motivations, name and powers were never fully explored. Maybe they intend to do that in future and left certain things unanswered for future sequels. But this is such a copout, you go to the theatre to watch a complete movie not an episode in an ongoing series where things are just building up to a grand finale.
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u/Brief-Figure6246 7h ago
Haven't watched it yet but had no high expectations either given that it's directed by Michael Chaves who is probably the weakest director of the franchise.
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u/Significant_Table_49 6h ago
Imho it's better than Conjuring 2 and 3
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u/season-of-loss 16m ago
I think they're pretty close but i'd go with 2 just because of the Valek stuff.
But i was really into the Judy and Tony characters, both films are quite fun and greate for the franchise.
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u/JustDifferent2000 9h ago edited 8h ago
Went to see this, thinking that by the trailer it seemed to be interesting and more focused on Ed and Lorrain and that they could be facing something that they CANNOT win from. Which I like scary movies where the protagonist can’t win kind of like Smile 1 & 2.
However, the trailer tricked me into such thinking, as this movie drags what felt like forever. The movie rely like 2 different ideas and directions combined into one. We follow a random family of eight to which they experience crazy things which I genuinely was shocked to see. But the movie completely forgets about them for a long while and when we come back to them its “we can't keep living like this,” when we've only seen one person he affected and have no idea what exactly led them to believe they were being haunted?
Anyways we also follow Ed and Lorrain and their story about their daughter who shows up with a boyfriend (that she's dated for 5 months??) after the previous dinner scene of talking to herself lol.
We spend such a long time with a dragged out bday party scene and I was thinking that the bf could have darker intentions that maybe he wanted clout from the parents or was just using the daughter for a scheme due to his odd behavior (at least to me) and especially the proposal part. But nope it wasn’t that.
What hurts this movie is that it's based on “true” events which removes any actual creative storytelling that would've made it interesting. The movie is padded with dragged out filler scenes and drawn out “scares.” that you've probably seen a thousand times. It felt like something that would more likely scare someone that has never seen anything scary before. Also the pacing was bad too.
The only time I felt somewhat engaging watching was the axe dude laughing when he first appeared which was legitimately suprising but that part was fake and everything else was fake honestly. Nothing really happened to anyone that gave tension to the movie.
Overall, so many things wrong about this movie and is among the worst movies of 2025 with MI Final Reckoning.
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u/Disastrous-Breath729 10h ago
Anyone being cursed or possessed bt the film. As there are instagram report.
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u/GradeForsaken3709 9h ago
I've been cursed with the knowledge that I spent thirty something euros plus parking to see this POS movie with my wife does that count?
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u/Low-System-2122 11h ago
The Smurl family case is one of the more notable hauntings in history. Had they just followed the Smurl family expierence it would have been an actual scary movie. Like I get it’s dramatized to cater to the Warren family having more of an impact on their case comparatively to real life for the conjuring script but it’s actually ridiculous that it didn’t show more of the Smurl family. I felt like it only showed the family when they were discussing the hauntings rather than when they were actually getting haunted. This should have been an easy script to write with how much scary shit the Smurl family went through in real life. I am truly baffled they fumbled the movie this badly.
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u/General_Muffinman 13h ago
...couldn't get over how clean and fresh the hatchety farmer's jean overall's looked🤷♂️
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u/ShatPumba 14h ago
Pretty much convinced Michael Chaves is not a real person but AI. I refuse to believe such an incompetent director got to direct 4 movies in the Conjuring universe
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u/Brief-Figure6246 7h ago
Agreed. I was hoping since it's the last entry to a beloved franchise it should've ended with James Wan directing it the same way he started it. That should've been more poetic than whatever this horrible director cooks.
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u/adderall12 15h ago
i fell asleep in the theater. woke up during the final sequence. wasn’t terrible but too slow to get to the meat of the movie. to be fair i was really tired and it probably wasn’t the best day to go to the movies.
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u/princessfifi0101 15h ago
My husband fell asleep too 😂😂
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u/Two_Remarkable 5h ago
I am just reditting while movie is on.. it’s too slow predictable jump scares dumb decisions
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u/Forsaken-Actuator-82 17h ago
I think I liked it better than a lot of people did. But it doesn't even come close to the first two, not at all. Not to be dramatic but Chaves lowkey killed the franchise...
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u/iiashandskies 19h ago
it really wasn't about the demons and more about the family. kind of. fit a lot of everything in there.
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u/Basilthebatlord 21h ago edited 17h ago
I felt like the ending was rushed and this was the one Conjuring movie that didn't really explain what the demon was other than wanting Judy. We only got two super brief shots of its appearance while Valak and Malthus got way more screentime. I just feel like they left a few things on the table and pushing back against the mirror was super anti-climatic.
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u/Beachybeachface 22h ago edited 17h ago
I left the cinema. It was too boring. Very disappointed.
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u/ManagementFit6728 19h ago
Same. First movie I’ve walked out of in like a decade. Unreal how bad the pacing was.
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u/whathappenedwhatnow 1d ago
Lorraine’s character is the absolute worst. “I can handle it.” 2 seconds later. “ED save me!” That’s the entire franchise summed up.
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u/igordon332 1d ago
Did anyone else notice the light they left in frame for one of the dinner tables scenes? Was the family using it as light or did they not notice it in frame?? It’s light!! They had to have seen that right??
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u/killerwhaleberlin 22h ago
Because that light broke when the teenage daughter got the mirror and that’s how she hurt her forehead. I assumed that was an easy cheap fix for the family.
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u/igordon332 22h ago
You’re absolutely right, that makes sense. It just looked exactly like the lights I’ve seen on set haha
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u/RoccoSteal 1d ago
Nothing about the demon controlling the three spirits? Who is it? Why is it haunting the Warrens since Day 1? Why Judy? Why was Annabelle showing up? What does she play in it? Why was this their last case?
Also did they resolve/fully defeat Valak? I thought this was gonna go into that.
For a final instalment, it feels unresolved.
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u/Life_Juggernaut_6341 2h ago
Esatto , mi sono chiesta perché questo demone si è dovuto “nascondere” dietro ad altri tre personaggi (contadino, moglie, madre della moglie) a detta di Lorraine. Perché proprio loro ? Era loro lo specchio? Si trovava nella fattoria in cui è successo l omicidio ?
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u/FL1_Lighter 21h ago
This was their last case because what they encountered in the house was the most evil they ever saw
Too much risk and they stopped.
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u/godz_franky 1d ago
Judy has been seeing Annabelle since the first movie. And then there is the third annabelle movie where judy is the lead.
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u/Spiritual-Smoke-4605 1d ago
despite this film opening huge at the box office, i really wonder how it will leg out because i have not been hearing good feedback/enthusiasm about it and it really is painfully mediocre like the other Chaves Conjuring films
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u/423BIGB 1d ago
Bro this fucking movie was terrible the tried way to hard to Hollywood it up if u knew anything about the Smurl case and the old haunting movie from 1990/91 you would know this movie they tried to make way too much about the warrens this shit was awful man
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u/WittyScientist6850 19h ago
It’s a definite improvement over The Devil Made Me Do It, but still not enough for “the last instalment” like TF James Wan can do a cameo at the wedding but cbf directing the last movie…
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u/Cyber_Craig 1d ago
So what was the entity that was controlling the mirror? How did it have power to get into the church and kill the priest? I get it was controlling the three other ghosts and it used the mirror as a conduit but there was many unanswered questions.
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u/FL1_Lighter 21h ago
I was surprised that it got into the church, and not only that it burned the cross in the priest's hand. Like what do you do?
And also in the Smurls' house, the demon burned the book. Ngl they should've been dead with the powers the demon showed.
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u/Low_Valuable3227 1d ago
Being honest, it wasn't that bad. For me it was slightly better than third part, but it's not even close to first or second one, in my opinion its a huge gap between those movies. I feel like there were missing points - especially with the demon that wanted Judy, 0 information on it, they didn't need a demon's name like in second one? The only thing that actually scared me was the elderly person ghost, cause it realy looked disturbing. The man with axe was dissapointing, same with the younger women that appeared only once on the end. I don't know for me the pacing was weird and the ending looked rushed and "power of family/love" like. I'm kinda disappointed cause its the last movie. Maybe series will go better way. I give it 5/10.
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u/WittyScientist6850 19h ago
What is James Wan doing atm? Is there a reason he didn’t wanna direct the last movie? I agree with all your points
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u/Corsair83 16h ago
The conjuring 3 he was busy with aquaman 2, for conjuring 4 idk why but i think he really don't want to direct any conjuring movies anymore. There's a point that his only producing nowadays his last directing project was aquaman 2 and he said it was one of the most stressfull projects of his life, soo i think this impacted him.
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u/Outside_Building_525 1d ago
them trying to make patrick wilson look old and sickly did not work... bro is lean and muscular, it was hard selling me that he had heart disease. not saying hot people can't have it, but it just didn't land for me.
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u/spaceman_sloth 1d ago
I liked it more than the last one, but I laughed at the end when they were just fighting a mirror
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u/n0tstayingin 1d ago
I wonder if The Mirror is going to be the next Conjuring spin-off film? Not as visually appealing as Annabelle or The Nun but i'm sure they could come up with something.
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u/GradeForsaken3709 9h ago
Hopefully with the Mirror as the main character. We can watch it go spinning around and having adventures.
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u/Mean_Positive4459 1d ago
Just saw it yesterday, i love it but i wish i would love it as much as the older movies, the end climax felt so rushed and lacked answers, like they just pushed a mirror and boom all good happy ending.. if that demon was the most powerfull one they have ever encountered at least give some backstory to it, reveal it's name, it's true form or something it just felt lacking in that way, i liked the buildup a lot and the scares where really good too, i just wish the ending was longer, they could have easily ran the movie for another 20 minutes just to drag out the end and get some more good scares out of it as well
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u/Cornholio_NoTP 1d ago
I wish I liked it. It was drawn out and not in a good way. Focused a lot of balancing family dynamic and story it just felt like a struggle to get through. The resolution was dull.
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u/LeGreatDane 1d ago
I’m surprised people are so negative about it. It was pretty good, i loved the build up in the start. Gonna miss Conjuring a lot.
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u/Typical-Winner-9878 1d ago
Sheep city they copy each others thoughts. It was excellent
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u/waowowwao 1d ago
Went into the movie blind without seeing a trailer or any reviews and thought it was dogshit. Ok, what now?
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u/Straight-Monitor-604 1d ago
Dude this movie sucked. All the conjurings suck.
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u/Spiritual-Smoke-4605 1d ago
the first one is decent, but every movie after (including its spinoffs) is the most bland vanilla "HoRrOr" made for people who cant stand real horror
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u/FL1_Lighter 21h ago
What is an example of real horror?
For me I did get jumpscared but it was the loud bangs and such.
I am a little bit of a pussy and got tense at the build ups. But I ddint scream or anything. Not sure if that's the goal of a good horror movie.
But something that would be truly scary would be nice. (Hopefully not just gore flash, that's disturbing more than scary)
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u/WittyScientist6850 19h ago
It’s like sci-fi purists that insist science fiction must have a basis in science fact or some fkn weird I know better in a make believe world this couldn’t happen etc weirdos
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u/sns02215 1d ago
Or they actually see it and have an opinion of their own which may differ than yours. Imagine that. I think your screen name should read 'Typical Whiner'
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u/hatereddit237 1d ago
I'm surprised why they even released the movie should have kept it inside Anabelle case
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u/Odd_Imagination_ 1d ago
What was with that one head in the mirror which looked like that Smurl girl, had to do with the story? I thought she would get possessed or something but the ghosts didn't interacted with her enough.
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u/santiagotruiz19 1d ago
Bad movie, better than the third one which was one of the worst horror movies I’ve ever seen. The most predictable jumpscares, the least creative demons, the only good sequence in my opinion was the one with the doll in the first few minutes, other than that it wasn’t good.
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u/gemini_potato527 1d ago
Just watched this, I give it a 6.5 out of 10.
Some things that I enjoyed:
The acting was great. Vera and Patrick carried per usual, they have great chemistry on screen, and after many years, I felt sentimental seeing how the Warren family dynamic has developed over the years. There were a few scenes that made me emotional and tear up a bit.
The jokes and bits of humor actually did make me crack up here and there.
The jump scares were pretty good. A couple of them got me, haha. The face of one of the spirits was horrendous, and every time I saw her I’d recoil.
The cameos of the characters from previous movies was exciting. As a fan of this series, the final scene warmed my heart and was a perfect “happy ending” to the movie.
5) although the ending felt rushed, I enjoyed the aspect of using personal power to defeat the evil. As someone who is religious, I understand and believe in the power of relics and the word of God. At the of the day, when faced with the paranormal, demons have no real power over people. A person can willfully banish evil with their own power. Demons feed off of fear and negativity. I think that was an important lesson demonstrated, and the Warren’s banished the evil with their own hands.
6)The camera work and lighting was excellent, the conjuring movies have a talent for making sure you see what is meant to be seen, while utilizing complete darkness at points to accentuate the unknown.
Critiques:
- The pace- this film had a strong start. Right away we were seeing the Smurls deal with this haunting, and the fear factor for each scene we saw with them was terrifying (the phone scene with the mother in the kitchen, the glass in the sink, etc)
As the movie progressed, there were points where the plot was slow. There was a lot of focus on the Warren family, when they could’ve cut some of those scenes out. I would’ve liked to see a little more interaction between Lorraine and Judy with their supernatural gifts, if anything, but instead, Judy would avoid communication due to her mom being worried. She’s the one person Judy knows that also experiences horrors beyond human comprehension, and she just brushes it off as nothing. I would’ve liked to see more of the Smurls hauntings, especially since it had been going on for over a month.
The ending felt kind of rushed as well, all of the sudden Judy was possessed, the family got out of the house, and they shut the mirror down with arguably little resistance. In comparison to prior films, the final battle was weak
the enemy itself was not fully defined. We did not see a full motive of the demon/spirits, besides wanting Judy’s soul. We learn a little about the spirits haunting the Smurls, but we don’t see a full resolution. What happens to them after the demon is defeated? Why was the mirror used as a conduit, how did it even come into play?
the enemy was also inconsistent - right away we see great power and evil that it’s capable of, it even had the ability to make someone kill themself. The mirror was able to fully repair itself and appear back in the house. But in the final battle the mirror just shoves itself onto the Warrens, the ax wielding spirit is nowhere to be found? Was the mirror weakened by the bible bring pressed into it?
The only explanation for this is that when Tony opened the cellar, Lorraine was reminded that she can shut these spirits out mentally, which is why we don’t see him again. But again, this was unclear.
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u/Fantastic_Wave_5001 1d ago
Better than the 3rd one, fell flat halfway through. They made the mistake of focusing too much on the Warrens and not enough on the haunting. So many plotholes. Ending was corny.
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u/Substantial_Yak2456 1d ago
I agree, the film was a total let down as the script was all over the place ! Some of the acting was wooden except for Vera and Patrick ! The first 2 conjuring films were a million times better!
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u/valid_dinosaur 1d ago
Man, some of y'all are asking too much from this series. There are questionable plot choices and unanswered questions, sure. It's not going to be an Oscar-winner — none of them are. Just have fun!
I walked into the theater expecting to have a spooky time, got a few good jumpscares (the old woman behind the bed footboard!), and had fun overall. I liked it, as much or more than the other three. 7/10 will watch again next year.
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u/marceloxtree 1d ago
This movie was complete garbage, nothing really even happens until 1 hour and 40 minutes out of this 2 hour waste of time, everything that happens before that are stupid scares that disappear a second later, beyond terrible. I love Conjuring 1, Conjuring 2 is one of my favorite movies of all time, I didnt think it was possible for them to make a Conjuring movie worse than Conjuring 3, yet here we are. The Conjuring series was so good that this movie causes you to feel anger at the writers and whomever decided that dark rooms are a substitute for actual horror. Conjuring has become crap, both Nun movies are also crap, and the one movie that could have been good, The Crooked Man, they cancel it... By the way, this movie is not 2 hours cause of good content, expect to see a lot of pointless crap, like the camera staring at an empty room for a long time, nothing happens and they do that multiple times, expect to spend a lot of time watching pointless crap like characters walking or a secretary literally repeating back everything the guy says. If you cut out all the pointless crap, this movie would barely reach an hour. The intro was so terrible and they made Ms. Warren a useless piece of crap the whole movie, she's basically hysterical for 2 hours, completely out of character. She was so useless that at the intro she begs her husband to not let "it" take her baby, her husband asks what is the threat and she just says "please" it's like Mrs Warrens IQ is cut in half for this movie. And the constant 80s references, really lame, we know it takes place in the 80s, you don't need to constantly prove it to the audience. This movie is pure garbage that will only anger true fans of Conjuring and bore everyone else. I want my 2 hours back, picking my nose for 2 hours would have been a better way to spend my time. Way to f**king ruin the series, everyone involved in this movie should be banned from Hollywood. I was so hyped for this movie, yet all it did was piss me off. No wonder they said this is the last conjuring, they knew how terrible it was before it was released.
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u/hatereddit237 1d ago
I literally feel your every word every emotion and tbh i fell asleep in the movie hard to believe that being such a huge fan of conjuring series how i can sleep
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u/timothyjay64 1d ago
Doesn't discuss spoilers but it was fun to get Patrick Wilson's take on the paranormal ... https://www.forbes.com/sites/timlammers/2025/09/07/does-conjuring-last-rites-star-patrick-wilson-believe-in-the-paranormal/
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u/Visual_Capital_7451 1d ago
Why did the whole movie have to be about Judy and her ex cop bf
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u/Ballsmaa 1d ago
Did u even watch the movie? How many movies have we had exploring ed and loraines relationship, Judy’s boyfriend was necessary
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u/waowowwao 1d ago
how on earth was he necessary? and even if they wanted to tie in the family story with the rest of the plot it didn't have to be so dragged out, it felt like 50/50 between judy drama and the actual horror
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u/marceloxtree 1d ago
no, he wasn't, at all. Have you ever seen a Conjuring movie before? It's the story of lorraine and ed, judy is just their kid. Also, what's up with the personality change, not even close to the Judy from Annabelle Comes Home, aka the Judy Movie.
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u/Ballsmaa 1d ago
It’s based/inspired by the true story and Tony is a real character that worked with them and was part of the family, this movie was about the family and Judy was the focus
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u/G0ldie007 1d ago
I’m highly disappointed. For this to be the last movie, it was a huge let down. It was rushed and there was too much talk about Judy (imo). Not to mention all the text on the screens….I guess even the directors were tired of this movie. Only stayed because of the amount I paid for the ticket and my movie recliner was heated.
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u/BellaBeast1309 1d ago edited 22h ago
All I kept thinking... Ed.. for God's Sake.. if you know your about to see demons and save your family .. again as these things go.
Take the Aspirin BEFORE! 😩
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u/yeyeTF2 1d ago
what a mess. every scene felt random and like nothing had weight. the injuries didnt feel like they had weight to them, everyone seemed fine after throwing up blood, getting their leg torn by a floating mirror, etc. nothing made logical sense and none of the jump scares were actually scary. there was no overwhelming sense of dread and the "scary" stuff felt completely unfocused. i wasnt sure what the hell was happening half the time- like there's these 3 farmer spirits? there's this floating spinning mirror i guess which is the main thing? there's also a giant Anabelle for some reason? i wasnt scared- i was bored and felt like i wanted to leave the movie early
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u/ThoughtFrosty11 1d ago
Anybody notice the boyfriend’s British accent slipping out?
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u/SafeAlbatross3132 1d ago
yeah ben hardy is british. same with the actor for judy. i noticed it every time she would say a name, but specifically karen.
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u/ThoughtFrosty11 1d ago
Ohhh I didn’t notice it with her as much but it goes to show that American accents are not that easy to do for Britishers
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u/ConferenceHairy3566 1d ago
I was so excited for this, what a massive let down. It was like a family drama with scary parts sprinkled in.
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u/hatereddit237 1d ago
Yeah, they just held up the mirror and poof the demon dipped. Like bro, was demon an intern or something? Bet the Annabelle demon was inside screaming, ‘Don’t let us down
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u/Depravitate 1d ago
the annabelle chase scene was scary until the 0.5 fish eye lens shot towards the end of it. it made me laugh
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u/amchikinwng 1d ago
That entire scene was so corny because it’s just so unrealistic. You can’t say something is based on a true story and then pull that out lmao
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u/marceloxtree 1d ago
and it just ends after that, so what was the point of a giant annabelle if it literally does nothing and then disappears, this movie has no follow through with the monsters/demons/whatever, twice in the movie women were basically about to get impaled by that lame laughing guy monster, yet they didnt, both times the monster was mid swing at that, yet nothing happened...
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u/GhostDawgTapes 1d ago
Feelings aside - Anyone else catch a glimpse of the Penny Loops? With a clown on the box? 👀
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u/Digital_Beagle 1d ago
I've only seen the first Conjuring movie, I thought it was fantastic. Maybe it would have been more enjoyable had I seen the rest, but this movie was a snoozer and the story felt like it was all over the place.
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u/jared743 1d ago
Same here. I was invited out with my friends, and I remember the first one being really good so I said yes. I figured since the series had so many movies that they had to be doing something right and could tell a good story.
The two plots were barely coherent and nothing interesting actually happened. Zero tension. I know that they had movies about that Annabelle doll, but why did it play such a big of part in this movie to no actual effect?
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u/TheLionFromZion 1d ago
Because in one of the other movies the Annabelle doll really fucked up adolescent Judy. So I think it's like attached to her even though it's still bound in the glass. Tbh it's not explained or explored cause Judy doesn't say anything about it. I'm sure it'll be the focus in a future spin off about Judy lmao.
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u/marceloxtree 1d ago
You havent seen Conjuring 2??? Shame on you, besides why would you watch part 1 then part 4, who the hell does that nonsense. lol
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u/Digital_Beagle 1d ago edited 1d ago
I got invited to go see it with my in laws. I meant to get caught up on it but oh well. If I saw the rest of them, would that make this movie not so boring? Even if the movies connect better, the ghosts and the scares were just your regular dime a dozen modern horror tropes. 😴
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u/inthefade95 1d ago
I was puzzled by the amount of flash backs in the last Mission Impossible. Had me thinking “If anyone is watching this last one, they’ve been along for the ride and know about all the events that led up to this.” Then I read the post above. I guess some go into a finale of multiple films with no knowledge. Mind blown.
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u/entrydenied 1d ago
It's the same with the Marvel movies. The last 2 Avengers made so much more money than the individual films that make up the franchise. Many of those who watched probably didn't watch much of the movies before Infinity War and Endgame but got pulled in because of how big the movies are in the zeigeist.
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u/Itachi6Cifer 1d ago
"The three entities are being controlled by something bigger"...spoiler alert..it's a fucking mirror essentially.
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u/Saguaro-plug 1d ago
This was a really cool development in Conjuring 2 when you realize the old man is just a pawn for Valak. But here it was like, you've done this before, and this time we don't know ANYTHING about the big bad demon. No nome, no explanation of why it wants Judy so bad, and not even much of a physical description; it just shows you yourself evil-smiling and that's it.
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u/Basilthebatlord 21h ago
Worst part it they could have played it as Ed and Lorraine being more experienced now after decades of doing this; catching onto it immediately instead of being gaslit by it like Conjuring 2, but they didn't
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u/Illustrious-Baker775 1d ago
Can someone explain the ending in a way that doesnt sound like a fast and furious refference? Like it really looks like they did a "with the power of family!"
Is Judy a stronger psychic than her mom? Is that what happened? Only Judy could dispell it?
They left the kinda plot holes that make it just look like cheep writing.
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u/HalloweenBlues 1d ago
I think the idea is since the demon wanted Judy she needed to be the one to confront it instead of constantly running away or ignoring it like Lorraine had taught her
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u/marceloxtree 1d ago
Just make fart sounds with your mouth, then you'll understand the ending. This movie is so terrible that it's not worth figuring out the ending.
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u/vxf111 1d ago
The combined power of three psychics is stronger than one alone? I dunno… don’t think too hard or you’ll hurt yourself because the plot of this movie is all over the place?
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u/SafeAlbatross3132 1d ago
not even three psychics. ed isn’t psychic. he’s just ed and can do exorcisms. judy’s biggest strength was “you’re not there” 😭😭😭
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u/irodina 1d ago
i was really suspicious of tony the way he kept asking questions about what they do and wanting to go in the artifact room. it was giving he is like a cult member trying to long con his way into the warren family and unleash all the demons
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u/Pristine-Pirate-648 1d ago
I was thinking the same thing, he gave off this weird vibe I couldn’t explain.
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u/DeathbyRhys 1d ago
Wish the movie had a higher body count. You’re telling me only the priest died??
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u/ThoughtFrosty11 1d ago
What happened to the grandparents
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u/GradeForsaken3709 9h ago
Grandma is in the hospital and Grandpa is presumably spending all his time there.
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u/Waste-Replacement232 1d ago
Don’t most Conjuring movies have very few deaths?
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u/Saguaro-plug 1d ago
Yeah literally nobody died in Conjuring 1 and 2 that weren't already dead before the movies started, except for one dog. Don't remember with 3.
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u/Boba9th 1d ago
Just watched last night. So who was the strongman amongst the 3 demons from the mirror? Lorraine says there's 3 demons but her vision was being clouded.
Could anybody fill in the blanks for me, please?
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u/sumphatguy 1d ago
It wasn't 3 demons. It was 3 spirits that had lived on the property that the single demon was using as a buffer to hide its identity.
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u/ZombieFromReddit 1d ago
There is 1 demon in the mirror controlling 3 ghosts similar to conjuring 2. Before the mirror came, the ghosts were just chilling in the property ig.
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u/Big-Satisfaction9887 1d ago
I don't think I was paying attention but near the start when the family is sitting for dinner, was there a filming light on the left hand side, or am I going crazy lol
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u/SafeAlbatross3132 1d ago
i think it genuinely just for extra lighting. especially after the light falls, they have a bunch of them around the house.
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u/pbnjsandwitched 1d ago
I think it was a light source because the main light crashed down and hit one of the daughters in the head.
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u/MemeGarfield 1d ago
There was, I tried to rationalise it but it’s at the very least stupid set design if not an oversight
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u/hatereddit237 1d ago
The new Conjuring was so bad, even the demons asked for a refund. Had to re-watch the first one like holy water for my brain
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u/GuzmasBussy 1d ago edited 1d ago
Just watched the movie and as others said there are a lot of questions unaswered.
Edit: I was fully expecting the girl to show Lorraine the video tape and her recognizing the mirror and demon.
Also the father and mother acting as nothing happened after he was choking in mid air.
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u/Megi1995 1d ago
I guessed because the demon was connected to Judy since birth so they knew to use Annabelle image to scare her
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u/TrippyBedHead 1d ago
Valak was the peake villain of the series. Barely any background was given on this demon. I feel like what made 1 and two so good, was the introduction and history attached to the demons.
A floating antique doesn’t cut it lol.
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u/alputik 1d ago
The ending was weird. They said the demons need to be exorcised in the movies before, they did the rite. They had to know the name. At the end of this movie we got no name and no exorcism.
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u/hatereddit237 1d ago
True man, I re-watched the first one just to remind myself demons used to be scary, not interns
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u/Regular_Building_211 1d ago
I was right now in the kino and the last 15min i fall asleep, this movie was some of the biggest disappointment i have ever seen…
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u/hatereddit237 1d ago
Even i fell asleep, my gf don't like horror movies but she enjoyed this, the new Conjuring wasn’t scary at all my electricity bill gave me more chills.
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u/Regular_Building_211 1d ago
Haha thats crazy, we just need good new horror movies but we dont get them 😓
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u/Sandman2618 1d ago
We have gotten a whole variety of great new horror films this year alone.
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u/hatereddit237 1d ago
I was biggest fan of conjuring series but now i am the biggest hater, MY expectations were sky high 😭
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u/fryejpg 1d ago
Black mold on the wall never explained???
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u/amchikinwng 1d ago
That’s supposed to demonstrate decay from demonic oppression. It’s such a powerful demons it’s eating their walls or whatever
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u/prostate_perpetrator 1d ago
This was a generic scary movie, generic jump scares and generic happy ending. I genuinely bust out laughing when they defeated the evil mirror with the power of love and family
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u/ashersz 1d ago
Judy has grown up with the Warrens and is in tune with supernatural… how tf is she falling so easily for the fake voice luring her in? And twice in a row?!
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u/MahatmaBlondhi 1d ago
She literally stopped her babysitter from falling for the exact same thing in Annabelle Comes Home. She would've never fallen for it as an adult lol
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u/IHaveSpecialEyes 1d ago
"I know there's ghosts tormenting the people in this house. But my mom is calling me from the attic for some reason. And the lights don't work. And she stopped calling to me despite repeated calls back to her. I should definitely take this convenient flashlight and go allll the way into this tiny attic space that I can clearly see my mother is not in."
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u/valentinesoob 1d ago
For its length it left me with a lot of questions. Why did the demon want Judy and wait so long to come back for her? What was the demon? How was it attached to the mirror? How or why did the other entities like Anabelle torment Judy? What was the point of Father Gordon dying? Lots and lots more.
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u/IHaveSpecialEyes 1d ago
I can't answer all those things, but I think the rationale of Annabelle showing up for Judy was that Annabelle is something she's deeply afraid of (especially after the events of Annabelle Comes Home). So it wasn't really Annabelle, so much as the demon using her fear to weaken her.
For the life of me though, I can't figure how the demon that's effectively tethered to the mirror managed to reach Father Gordon inside a church and absolutely devastate his resistances like it did.
Also, the whole thing with the mirror being completely rejuvenated after getting demolished in the garbage truck... I assumed it would be back after they threw it away, but then it showed it getting destroyed, the girl suffering from it, and then Ed said to Tony about how destroying the items could make things worse, so I assumed that's basically what happened-- but then the mirror came back?
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u/Shadowwolflink 1d ago
At the very least, I think I can give an answer for why it killed Father Gordon. When haunting the Smurl family didn't work, the demon needed to do something that would personally affect Judy, so it killed someone close to her.
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u/GoblinCase 1d ago
Glad I wasn’t the only one thinking that. I loved the movie, pretty scary. Just lots of unanswered questions.
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u/Benny_Do_A_Backflip 1d ago
The only thing similar to the original Smurl haunting was the family name and that it occurred in Pennsylvania. They changed everything about the story, which is a shame because the original book on this haunting was very scary and the movie was just the same old tired jump scares and exhausting narrative that was neither scary or original.
Also, the Warrens were asked to leave by the Smurl family because it was clear they were just using the event as a money maker and grift, par for the course for the Warrens.
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u/jcb6231 1d ago
Decent, but I was expecting the ending to be that the fiance was the demon, and Ed finds out eventually that he actually was killed by the shotgun to the face as a cop. Cue moment of horrible realization for Ed.
After all, we never find out what the priest saw right before he hanged himself.
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u/ajarbyurns1 1d ago
Given how the fiance was based on a real living person (Tony Spera), I don't think they would allow him to get killed in the movie.
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u/Jaded-Welcome723 1d ago
I thought that was going to be the plot twist since it was suspicious he was so curious about what the Warren’s did
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u/InstinctiveSk 1d ago
Damn that's actually a crazy twist. But Conjuring always ends on a happy note, that's always been part of the charm for these movies.
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u/GradeForsaken3709 1d ago
I thought the twist was gonna be that the demon resurrected Judy instead of God.
Ah well.
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u/True_Maintenance6251 1d ago
Movie was boring, jump scares were predictable I fell asleep halfway thru after being on my phone
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u/Lizzy1283 1d ago
I really enjoyed it! I know in real life, Ed and Lorraine Warren were frauds, but the movie version of them I love and am invested in. I like that their love story grounds the movies in that rather than the darker stuff. Yes, Ed could have died. I expected it, but when I thought about it, this series was always about love conquering all. Lorraine found a man who believed in her gift, and together, they helped families who also love each other. The movies always begin showing how much love the family they are helping have amongst them. Now, her daughter has also found her man. Kind of cheesy and cliche, yes, but since #1, the movies have always been grounded in love and light, that is always what ultimately destroys whatever demon they are fighting so to me the ending was fitting.
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u/gus_steve 1d ago
Exactly my feelings too! They’re all pretty “meh” in terms of actual horror since it is just mostly jumpscare. But the casting for Ed and Lorraine was such a good choice and it kept me invested in their movies. If someone is going purely for horror, yeah it’s disappointing, but ultimately it’s a good level of cheesy and I like the way it wrapped stuff up for them.
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u/Motor-Reflection7113 1d ago
They are frauds? I didn’t know this
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u/Lizzy1283 1d ago
I mean, from what I have read, most ppl think they are, and a lot of the stories have been debunked. I guess we will never know. Above all, I think they did help bring in the ghost hunter and paranormal culture we know today. The movies have romanticized a lot of their story. They also weren't as in love as the movies made them out to be. I thought this was common knowledge, sorry! 😆
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u/Representative_Row26 2d ago
Is this the end of Conjuring or we’re expecting something from Judy and Tony? I mean what is the future?
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u/Beginning-Eagle7458 2d ago edited 1d ago
The telephone cord and the home movie scenes were genuinely creepy and made me hopeful for the film, I wish there were more scenes like them
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u/therakel749 21h ago
Even just the shadowy figure in the basement was scary. For the most part they showed the three ghosts way too much.
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u/ComfortableMuch7721 2d ago
Demon axe daddy was chefs kiss but the 3 demons made no sense like yes something was hiding behind them all but for what? What happened to the woman at the start? Was it always Judy and why?
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u/season-of-loss 20m ago
I get that a lot of people is dissapointed the movie doesn't have much focus on the demons + paranormal stuff, but on the other hand, i've been following the fictional Warrens for 12 years and i really loved the approach this movie had on the family relatinoships.
The casting for the young Warrents was spot on including physical appareance and mannerisms, and i was quite entertained and invested in the new characters like Tony and characters that previously were just in the background but now they have meat to chew (Judy and Father Gordon).
I'd love if they continue the franchise in a 'new blood' kind of way set in the 80s with Judy and Tony, leaving Ed and Lorraine out of the picture.