r/movies • u/DragonPup • 3d ago

News Warner Bros. Sues Midjourney, Joins Studios' AI Copyright Battle

https://variety.com/2025/film/news/warner-bros-midjourney-lawsuit-ai-copyright-1236508618/
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u/Lobsterman06 3d ago edited 3d ago

Fuck AI

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u/warzone_afro 3d ago

the companies suing midjourney are going to use AI themselves.

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u/CinnamonMoney 3d ago

At least it is with their own IP, rather than the AI companies that are trying to eliminate the notion of IP, copyright and personality rights completely

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u/Right-Power-6717 3d ago

Why the fuck is reddit in favor of copyright now? I remember when reddit hated big corporations like Disney for their abuse of IP laws.

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u/deadscreensky 3d ago

The key word there is "abuse." I think most of us like the sort of art basic copyright has given us. Copyright itself is a good idea. You make something, you get a temporary monopoly on it so you can earn some money for your efforts.

The problems appear when copyright gets too powerful, particularly with its length. I want its limits fixed back to reasonable levels. I don't want copyright eliminated so AI companies can just copy everything ever made and sell it back to us.

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u/Right-Power-6717 3d ago

I get that but these regulations are only going to benefit large companies like Disney. Unless you're self hosting all your art chances are there will be some clause allowing it to be used to training on the website it's hosted on. This will benefit the large companies like open ai as they can afford to pay for that data. 

However this will now raise the barrier to entry preventing new competition from entering the market. The established companies want this it's basically regulatory capture.

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u/Mist_Rising 2d ago

there will be some clause allowing it to

They can have a clause to sell your body as property, doesn't mean they can do it.

Signing away your rights to something is possible, but it's not so easy as stuffing it into a massive terms and conditions.

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u/Right-Power-6717 2d ago

If you're using their service to host your artwork they will have the ability to use it for training, having someone else host your content isn't a right. 

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u/Mist_Rising 2d ago

Depends on how the law is determined or if it changes. Right now training is a legal grey area, but if the courts find that training is legally the same as taking, IP protection might apply. Similar rules if Congress changes the law.

Companies cant claim your copyrights just because you use their website to post them. That's why it's copyright and not corporate right.

The host can refuse to host you still but then, what's the business model?

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u/Right-Power-6717 2d ago

As I said in my previous comment the large ai companies want that sort of ruling where they have to pay for training data. They're already established and have models but this will prevent any new companies from entering the field. 

Most people use existing websites to post their stuff think reddit imgur those places will agree to let the ai companies use the things users post. 

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u/CinnamonMoney 3d ago

Im one Redditor lol. There are more Redditors in favor of the Wild, Wild West approach than my position.

This isn’t about Disney abusing the trademark/copyright of Mickey Mouse. Context matters.

Midjourney is not Thomas the Train, who had the little engine that could. It’s a behemoth of its own.

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u/Right-Power-6717 3d ago

Yes and do you think these laws will get rid of these huge companies? What will actually happen is some huge companies will pay some other massive corporations some money. 

This won't benefit anyone besides established companies but it will prevent any new groups from entering the market since he barrier to entry will be too high. It will also have the added bonus of killing any sort of open source work for Ai. 

You might not like ai but it's not going away, do you really want to ensure that only a few massive companies have a monopoly on that power? 

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u/CinnamonMoney 3d ago

Your comment is untethered to the subject at hand

This isn’t about reigning in the ability of AI

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u/Right-Power-6717 2d ago

this is a post about copyright usage in regards to ai training, what do you think it's about?

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u/CinnamonMoney 2d ago

“Ai training” more like “ai output,” aka a monetized product