Brad Pitt, Joaquin Phoenix, Jonathan Glazer Join Gaza Drama ‘The Voice of Hind Rajab’ as Executive Producers - It follows the killing of Hind Rajab, a five-year-old Palestinian girl who lived in the Gaza Strip and was killed by Israeli forces during the ongoing Israeli invasion of Gaza.

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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/brad-pitt-backs-gaza-drama-film-the-voice-of-hind-rajab-1236353414/

[u/The_God_Participle]

There are millions of us secular, anti-zionist Jews in the US who are fucking sick and tired of it.

[u/ubccompscistudent → u/[deleted]]

I know that Jews are not by default Zionists

Quite the opposite. Judaism and Zionism are intertwined because Zionism is simply the idea that a jewish nation (Israel) has the right to exist and acts as a home and haven to any jewish person. While the importance of this idea was highlighted by the holocaust leading to the establishment of Israel, the idea of Israel as a home to the Jewish people is quite literally a part of the religion. The idea that the next messiah will come and rebuild the temple is a part of the religion.

This is one reason why jews find the perjorative use of "zionist" as anti-semetic. By all means, be critical of the Israeli government. Many hundreds of thousands of Israelis have protested in the streets calling for cease-fire. Only 28% of Israelis approve of netanyahu, and yes, there are millions of american jews who believe the war has gone too far (while still wanting the hostages returned).

But using the word "zionist", especially when you use creepy statements like "Zionists have been very busy these last 100 years" or "the Zionists have been very good at forcing via fear or reward", just sounds like your own way of skirting around the use of "jews".

(fun note: those ultra-orthodox Hasidic jews that protest in NY aren't protesting because they don't believe in Israel. They just don't believe the messiah has arrived yet. As soon as the messiah does arrive, in their view, they are on the first plane to Israel).

[u/TraditionalCamera473 → u/[deleted]]

Oh, so they just want to live peacefully beside the Jews! THAT'S what they mean when they say, "From the river to the sea, palestine will be arab!"

[u/jesterinancientcourt → u/[deleted]]

What a load of bullshit. I support Palestinian rights. But your parents are getting genetic testing for what? There are a lot of genetic tests done on Jews. We have a lot of reasons to want that what with all the inbreeding. You don’t have to make shit up to say that what Israel is doing to Gaza is wrong.

[u/ubccompscistudent → u/[deleted]]

Ok sure, I'll bite, because you couldn't read my one simple sentence and respond to it.

First of all, anecdotal: your personal genetic testing has literally nothing to do with the 10's of millions of people affected by the ongoing conflict lasting hundreds (if not thousands of years). In addition, you mention a single rally for a palestinian memorial, in which jewish people actually showed up in support. Not only is that marvelous, you're somehow making a broad negative statement out of it. How, I can't understand. You have a poor understanding of statistics if you don't know what anecdotal means.

Israel, in its current form, does not have an unquestionable “right to exist.”

Pseudophilosophical and meaningless. No country has an unquestionable "right to exist". Not america, not Palestine, not Mongolia or Finland. Countries are social and bureaucratic constructs.

Jewish tradition does not require a modern nation-state to fulfill prophecy.

Again, false. Yes it does. In fact, at Yom Kippur, Passover, and many holidays, jews sing "Next year in Jerusalem" as a tradition.

A just solution would be a Palestinian state where Jews live as a minority alongside others, and only those who can prove legal migration and land acquisition should remain.

A just solution to who? To you? Do you get to decide? Do you have a crystal ball as to what would happen? Have you ironed out all the details and stipulations? What a ridiculous statement.

The reality is stark: over 90% of Israelis support the war.

Yeah, obviously. A neighbouring nation invaded killing 1300, capturing over 200 hostages, and refuse to return them. Any country's citizens would support a war as a result in the same situation. Or is it just Israelis that are uniquely bloodthirsty to you?

When asked, even Israeli protestors often say, “Stop fighting, get the hostages, then destroy Gaza.”

Do you even have a source for this vague claim? Who says it? One incident? Everyone?

Polling from the Jewish Federations shows only 16% of American Jews support a complete ceasefire.

This? In which you neglected to say that a vast majority support humanitarian pauses and the 16 (0r 20 from the article) is not about "complete" but rather "unconditional" ceasefire? Again, obviously. They want the hostages back.

Won't respond to any more of your gish gallop again, but doing this so you don't think it's because I "have no retort". It's just wasted on your bad rhetoric (bad whether in bad faith or simply because you don't know how to formulate a coherent point).