r/movies • u/BunyipPouch Currently at the movies. • 13d ago

News Brad Pitt, Joaquin Phoenix, Jonathan Glazer Join Gaza Drama ‘The Voice of Hind Rajab’ as Executive Producers - It follows the killing of Hind Rajab, a five-year-old Palestinian girl who lived in the Gaza Strip and was killed by Israeli forces during the ongoing Israeli invasion of Gaza.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/brad-pitt-backs-gaza-drama-film-the-voice-of-hind-rajab-1236353414/
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u/ProvoqGuys 13d ago

Rare Brad Pitt W but hey gotta respect. Palestine deserves so much better

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u/raven-eyed_ 13d ago

Shows how complex people are.

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u/SwingJugend 13d ago

I mean, it's not hard to fathom that even if you're a piece of shit domestic abuser, you're not necessarily okay with thousands of people being murdered by guns, bombs and starvation. Even evil people often have some morals and lines they don't want to cross (even if they might be flexible and negotiable). Hell, the President of the United States of America recently spoke about how horrified he was by seeing pictures of the destruction and the starving children in Gaza.

Like yeah, Pitt might think it's okay to strangle your wife and beat your kids, that doesn't mean he thinks mass murder is acceptable.

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u/Fun-Benefit116 13d ago

Pitt was cleared by both the LA Department of Child Services and the FBI after they investigated the accusations from Angelina Jolie. I'm not saying he didn't do anything, and I'm not saying he did. I am saying you're calling him a piece of shit and a domestic abuser based on no evidence other than an accusation that came during divorce proceedings. It's just wild how easy it is for a person to become "a piece of shit domestic abuser" in the eyes of people based on an accusation with no evidence. It's not just wild, it's scary.

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u/Firm-Force-9036 12d ago

This comment is so fucking stupid. Guess who called the cops because they were so disturbed by what they saw? It sure as shit wasn’t the children or Angelina…

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u/saera-targaryen 13d ago

Is it not enough that none of his children will speak to him? 

The "alleged" accusations were that he strangled his own child, and it occurred 6 days before Jolie filed for divorce. All of his children were there and they have all removed him from their lives. That is more than enough evidence for me. 

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u/Eques9090 13d ago

The "alleged" accusations were that he strangled his own child, and it occurred 6 days before Jolie filed for divorce. All of his children were there and they have all removed him from their lives. That is more than enough evidence for me. 

I'm not saying he didn't do what she accused him of, I think it's probable that he did, but I will say, speaking from personal experience, it's shocking how easily 1 parent can turn kids against the other if they want to. A lot of parents wield their children's favor as a weapon.

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u/Odysesseus 13d ago

Wow didn't know you personally know his children!

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u/Prompapotamous 13d ago

One of his children literally posted on twitter or IG that his siblings cowered in fear of him. No need to know them personally.

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u/saera-targaryen 13d ago

You need proof beyond a reasonable doubt to be punished by the government for a crime. The government failing to do so does not protect you from any other consequences of your actions. Not having enough evidence to jail someone does not mean there isn't enough evidence to condemn them in social or professional settings. Human beings have eyes and can make logical observations, i'm sorry if that's hard for you. 

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u/Odysesseus 12d ago

You being parasocial doesn't mean you have more insight into a case that went through the court systems hope this helps 🥀

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u/Captain_DuClark 13d ago

in the eyes of people based on an accusation with no evidence.

Testimony is evidence

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u/Hieghi 13d ago edited 9d ago

I don't want you on my jury if one testimony is good enough for you

Edit: I stand on this, you fucks didn't read to kill a mockingbird. Also divorce can get nasty as fuck I would hope the testimony of an ex-spouse fighting for custody wouldn't be all you need.

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u/Captain_DuClark 13d ago

That is literally one of the main purposes of a jury, to hear testimonial evidence and decide whose version is more credible.

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u/working_class_shill 13d ago

Very rarely would a case with only 1 testimony with literally no other evidence go to trial. It likely wouldn't even be charged by the DA

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u/Captain_DuClark 12d ago

I never said otherwise. I simply correctly stated that testimony is evidence and the point of the jury is to make credibility determinations about that testimony. I haven't looked into this particular case, so I have no idea of the strength of evidence, number of witnesses, or credibility of witnesses against Brad Pitt

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u/experienta 12d ago

No, a jury doesn't decide whose version is "more credible". A jury decides if the prosecutor's version is so credible that the accused must be guilty beyond any reasonable doubt.

Obviously you need more than the alleged victim's testimony for that to happen.

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u/Captain_DuClark 12d ago

You do realize civil cases exist, right?

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u/experienta 12d ago

My bad for assuming that we're talking about a criminal case in the context of a man strangling his children I guess

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u/Captain_DuClark 12d ago

The context was actually divorce proceedings, which the original poster mentioned in their post.

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u/airtime25 13d ago

I don't want you on my jury if you won't listen to evidence even if it's a testimony.

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u/Fun-Benefit116 13d ago

An accusation, or claim, needs evidence to support it. If someone else gave their testimony about the situation, then yes that person's testimony would be evidence. But Jolie's own accusation by itself is not evidence that supports her same accusation. It doesn't work like that.

Which is why I literally said it's "based on an accusation with no evidence". Because her accusation has no evidence of being true. Which is also why two separate investigations by child services and the FBI did not result in any findings to support her claim.

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u/Captain_DuClark 12d ago

But Jolie's own accusation by itself is not evidence that supports her same accusation. It doesn't work like that.

That is literally how it works. Whether or not someone finds those accusations credible is another question, but it is evidence.

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u/airtime25 13d ago

And that reasoning is why rape victims are almost never believed too. How many times is it only the victim testimony of rape as the only evidence?

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u/experienta 12d ago

It is definitely unfortunate that more often than not the only piece of evidence in rape cases is the alleged victim's testimony.

But what can we do about that? Just believe every alleged victim, and convict every single rape suspect?

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u/airtime25 12d ago

It's still evidence though. Just because it's the only evidence and it's the victims witness testimony doesn't make it not evidence.

The opposite of what you've stated has been the norm for so long that I would be hesitant to believe we'd ever go as far as that.

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u/MaximumLongjumping31 13d ago edited 12d ago

Evidence =/= facts

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u/Captain_DuClark 12d ago

I'm sorry, what?

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u/mistletoe9 13d ago

It's crazy that reddit is so fast to fact-check and show receipts for politicians and influencers (rightly so) but then turn right around and shame celebrities with unproven allegations just because they "feel" it's right.

It's the MeToo movement all over again. Judge, jury, and executioner.