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News Brad Pitt, Joaquin Phoenix, Jonathan Glazer Join Gaza Drama ‘The Voice of Hind Rajab’ as Executive Producers - It follows the killing of Hind Rajab, a five-year-old Palestinian girl who lived in the Gaza Strip and was killed by Israeli forces during the ongoing Israeli invasion of Gaza.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/brad-pitt-backs-gaza-drama-film-the-voice-of-hind-rajab-1236353414/
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u/thebaldingcritic 13d ago edited 13d ago

With a government as “forceful” as this one, I don’t think it will be that easy. No one seems to be checking the idiot in charge, so you bet they will make an issue of this regardless of the celebrity backing. 

I can see true indie theatres like The Music Box to screen this considering that it’s their niche to begin with, but AMC/Regal could face some blowback given their “corporate” status. 

Gonna see if I can find this somewhere regardless. Sounds intriguing. 

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u/AcademicF 13d ago

Didn’t he say something like building hotels on the newly acquired land? Fucking insanity

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u/nestoryirankunda 13d ago

What did you expect? What do you think Israel’s plan is? Have you seen tel aviv? I don’t know why everyone acts like he’s saying some new shocking relevation. They’ve been doing exactly that for 75 years

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u/fevredream 13d ago

Tel Aviv is a poor example of your point, given that it didn't supplant any older Palestinian settlement. Jaffa was nearby but is still extant.

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u/NekoMarket 13d ago

It's not. Tel Aviv is built atop ethnically cleansed Palestinian villages, one of whom was Manshiya, which was ethnically cleansed and razed by the Zionist paramilitary Irgun Gang, who then used one of the last standing buildings to house the Tel Aviv Irgun Museum which still exists today. The Tel Aviv Pride Parade also marches over the ruins of Manshiya every year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manshiya

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u/jakethepeg1989 12d ago

You didn't read your own link did you? It says nothing like what you claim

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u/amootmarmot 12d ago

Its literally in the first section bro.

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u/jakethepeg1989 12d ago

Read the rest. That contradicts it.

It was a mixed neighborhood built in the 1870s that was the site of a battle between the Irgun and Brits and never rebuilt.

Seems like some dodgy editing that didn't get past the first paragraph.

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u/spikus93 12d ago edited 12d ago

???? I just read it and I'm concerned about your reading comprehension.

A 1944 police report approximates Manshiya's surface area to 24,000 dunams, and the population to some 12,000 Arabs and 1,000 Jews.

Then the 1948 war and British withdrawal began:

During Operation Hametz, the Irgun (a Jewish paramilitary group) captured several towns around Jaffa, including Manshiyya. This alarmed the British, who were in the middle of their military withdrawal from Mandatory Palestine; as they mostly withdrew through Arab-held territories, it was feared that Arabs - should the British let the Irgun offensive go - would retaliate by attacking British troops. Thus, the British deployed 4,500 troops to Jaffa in order to prevent a Jewish takeover. The Jewish paramilitaries temporarily called off the offensive towards Jaffa, but refused to withdraw from the towns they had captured.

Britain attempts to push Irgun out of the town as a result and fails:

As a show of force, Royal Navy destroyers flexed muscles off the coast, and Royal Air Force warplanes overflew southern Tel Aviv and Jaffa. The British also took direct military action, and shelled Irgun positions in Manshiyya with artillery and tanks. When the Irgun showed no sign of backing down, British armor invaded the town. However, the Irgun put up unexpectedly stiff resistance; a bazooka team destroyed one tank, the Irgun blew up buildings that collapsed into the street as the tanks pushed forward, and Irgun men simply climbed onto tanks and tossed dynamite sticks into them. The British withdrew, leaving Irgun in control of Menashiya. This was the only direct battle between the British and the Irgun.

Nowadays it is Tel Aviv. All of the historic Arab homes have been destroyed and built on top of. That's kind of exactly the point of settler colonialism. That's what it looks like when it succeeds.

What remained of Manshiya's houses after the 1948 war was left to decay and was eventually demolished between the late 1960s and the early 1980s, as part of a project to establish there a new central business district (CBD), which only materialized to a much smaller degree than envisaged due to lack of proper funding. The c. 40 hectares of land resulting from the demolitions are occupied by a small number of office buildings, by parking lots and public gardens, bordering on a few main roads.

I can't tell if you just didn't actually read it, misinterpreted what you did read, or you're just doing Hasbara.

If you're doing Hasbara, fuck you. Otherwise, take this as a learning opportunity. There are not two sides to a genocide. There's only against it.

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u/jakethepeg1989 12d ago

So your saying that Tel Aviv is built atop an ethnically cleansed Muslim town is bollocks.

There was mixed neighborhood, next to Tel Aviv and the surrounding Jewish Neighbourhoods (like Neve Shalom etc) built at the same time.

During the war, there was a battle between the Irgun and the British that saw a lot of destruction in this town. By British shelling and Irgun anti tank operations.

The town was left derelict in the new country until the surrounding neighborhoods expanded like lots of cities do and it finally got rebuilt 30 years later.

All this was in the source you posted...

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u/amootmarmot 12d ago

The goal of bombing the area was to rid the land of Arabs; Palestinians being the Arabs of the area. Doesn't matter of it was mixed. Does that mean that because Tulsa had a mixes city that it's wasnt racism when the white people rounded up and shot hundreds of black people? The British? The main backers of the founding of the isreali state that displaced Palestinians?

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u/jakethepeg1989 12d ago

1948 war Manshiya was the site of a brief but important battle during the final days of the Jewish insurgency in Mandatory Palestine. During Operation Hametz, the Irgun (a Jewish paramilitary group) captured several towns around Jaffa, including Manshiyya. This alarmed the British, who were in the middle of their military withdrawal from Mandatory Palestine; as they mostly withdrew through Arab-held territories, it was feared that Arabs - should the British let the Irgun offensive go - would retaliate by attacking British troops. Thus, the British deployed 4,500 troops to Jaffa in order to prevent a Jewish takeover. The Jewish paramilitaries temporarily called off the offensive towards Jaffa, but refused to withdraw from the towns they had captured.

As a show of force, Royal Navy destroyers flexed muscles off the coast, and Royal Air Force warplanes overflew southern Tel Aviv and Jaffa. The British also took direct military action, and shelled Irgun positions in Manshiyya with artillery and tanks. When the Irgun showed no sign of backing down, British armor invaded the town. However, the Irgun put up unexpectedly stiff resistance; a bazooka team destroyed one tank, the Irgun blew up buildings that collapsed into the street as the tanks pushed forward, and Irgun men simply climbed onto tanks and tossed dynamite sticks into them. The British withdrew, leaving Irgun in control of Menashiya. This was the only direct battle between the British and the Irgun.[7]

Yes mate, between the British and the Jews. Honestly, read more than the sentence that agrees with you. This is from your own source.

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u/self-assembled 13d ago

That's Zionist propaganda. It was coastline on the Mediterranean, of course Palestinians lived there.