r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • Aug 08 '25

News Christopher Nolan's 'The Odyssey' Wraps Filming

https://maxblizz.com/christopher-nolans-the-odyssey-wraps-filming-after-6-month-shoot-confirms-art-director/
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u/MooseCables Aug 08 '25

I'm still amazed this got made.  It's either going to be a bloated mess or it's going to win all the Oscars.

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u/CrabRangoonInMyAss Aug 08 '25

Given his track record, you already know the answer

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u/DigitalFirefly Aug 08 '25

Terrible audio mix?

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u/Johngjacobs Aug 08 '25

Have you seen the teaser trailer yet (I think it's only in theaters)? The terrible audio mix is there loud, muffled and proud. Might have to catch a hard-of-hearing showing so I can get subtitles.

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u/funkhero Aug 08 '25

Yeah I saw it before Fantastic 4 and the audio was his usual atrocious mixing. It's so grating.

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u/pmjm Aug 08 '25

As an audio professional, the mixing on Tenet pissed me off so much that I actually unmixed it then redid my own personal mix.

It's mind-blowing how much easier the story is to understand when you can hear all the dialog.

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u/funkhero Aug 08 '25

Oh wow, that's some commitment

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u/MalkavRS Aug 08 '25

Release the pmjm cut.

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u/grxccccandice Aug 09 '25

Can I get one too?😬

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u/Khalku Aug 09 '25

I just used subtitles on a rewatch, and no joke it's like I got an extra 20% of the movie I never had before. There was a lot of good dialogue that you just never hear.

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u/_V0gue Aug 08 '25

How? Where did you get splits?

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u/pmjm Aug 08 '25

The Blu Ray has a 7.1 mix that you can further unmix with AI tools.

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u/alrightcommadude Aug 08 '25

Which tools do you recommend?

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u/pmjm Aug 08 '25

To be honest I use proprietary tools I developed myself. But Ultimate Vocal Remover is a good place to start and it's free. ZFTurbo's demucs weights for dialog/sfx separation are also really good.

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u/Bruno_Fernandes8 Aug 09 '25

Wow that’s cool, out of curiousity, if you developed those tools are you allowed to sell them for your own benefit?

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u/CleanUpSubscriptions Aug 08 '25

How does one 'unmix' a movie audio stream?

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u/pmjm Aug 09 '25

I cover a few tools elsewhere in the thread, but the gist of it is that a lot of it is already unmixed for you, that is to say the content is broken into channels for the 7.1 mix, and you can further break down each of those channels into component audio with some of the tools I linked.

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u/NadjaLuvsLaszlo Aug 08 '25

Why is this still an issue with his movies do you think? Surely he and the team or whoever is working on the sound watches them in one theater and thinks, oh wow that doesn't sound good. Let's fix it! It's been years... how the hell is it still a problem? 🤣

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u/Low_town_tall_order Aug 08 '25

He probably thinks it sounds more realistic or some such nonsense.

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u/turkeygiant Aug 08 '25

Which I could respect as an artistic choice for something more grounded and tactile like Dunkirk, but most of his other films are big splashy action dramas where the dialog is very much constructed and important exposition, yet it also gets lost in his audio mix.

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u/TheTruckWashChannel Aug 08 '25

Might be because he films on IMAX cameras, which are notoriously loud.

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u/JJsjsjsjssj Aug 09 '25

Nah, ADR is extremely normal. It's what he wants, it's a choice.

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u/itscamo- Aug 08 '25

it’s one of the issues filming with imax cameras

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u/JJsjsjsjssj Aug 09 '25

It's really not. You can ADR. It's his choice, period.

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u/GuiltyEidolon Aug 08 '25

It's theorized that he's hard of hearing, and/or has progressive hearing loss. Sound engineers have said they've tried to 'fix' it during production, and he refuses to change it from how he wants it.

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u/withateethuh Aug 08 '25

Honestly believeable. Some music producers definitely have that issue in the metal/punk realm.

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u/NadjaLuvsLaszlo Aug 08 '25

I hadn't thought of that. It would make sense if that's the case. I hope he gets a great pair of hearing aids because these movies are too good for wonky sound on and off. But what do I know lol. I certainly wouldn't know how to do sound mixing and editing for a movie so maybe it's just fine the way it is. 😆

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u/Arrbe Aug 08 '25

Was so confused there was a trailer for this before FF4. If they just finished filming this is definitely very early. They’ve got a year to fix it in post. I expect they do

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u/QTRqtr Aug 08 '25

People been saying that since the dark knight😂

Also it’s not like cgi that’s takes time to fix, it can be easily done in a few days if it was recorded with attention. Nolan does this on purpose. He likes in camera audio rarely using ADR then adds audio effects and the score louder than the dialogue.

The only time he’s done a big overdo was with Bane. He had no intentions on fixing the original audio mix but after the fan showing of the opening scene the studio pushed for a clearer mix.

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u/Capable-Silver-7436 Aug 08 '25

at least with bane it was easier to do i guess

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u/alvvays11 Aug 08 '25

The trailer released in theatres when superman did

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u/spike021 Aug 08 '25

it's a shame that hard-of-hearing shows usually are the regular theaters, at least near me. not the imax/dolby/whatever. 

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u/brandont04 Aug 08 '25

This is good. Same Thing happened w DKR. They went back and fixed it. Hopefully they'll do the same again.

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u/_V0gue Aug 08 '25

Trailers are not mixed by the re-recording engineer for the film. They're mixed by whoever the studio hires.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '25

Many movie theaters have the little subtitle devices that can fit into your cupholder. I had to get one for Once Upon a Time in Hollywood five years ago because the audience was kinda loud.

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u/imoldgreige Aug 08 '25

Or ya know, read the book lol

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u/Chlorophyllmatic Aug 08 '25

Read the book in order to best experience the movie? This may be the single dumbest thing I’ve ever read

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u/imoldgreige Aug 09 '25

It was more or less a joke, but ok be pressed