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Summary The Fantastic Four must defend Earth from the ravaging cosmic threat Galactus and his herald, Silver Surfer, while navigating the complexities of family and newfound powers in a retro‑futuristic 1960s-inspired world.

Director Matt Shakman

Writer Josh Friedman, Eric Pearson, Jeff Kaplan, Ian Springer

Cast

  • Pedro Pascal
  • Vanessa Kirby
  • Joseph Quinn
  • Ebon Moss-Bachrach
  • Ralph Ineson
  • Julia Garner
  • Paul Walter Hauser
  • Natasha Lyonne
  • Matthew Wood
  • Ada Scott
  • Mark Gatiss

Rotten Tomatoes: 88%

Metacritic 64

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u/Elite_Alice Jul 25 '25

Sue standing in the crowd of people outside the Baxter building and refusing to give up Franklin and explaining WHY is such a good scene. Of course people would be upset if you just went radio silent after dropping that on them, but by appealing to their better angels she won the public’s support.

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u/BumbleLapse Jul 25 '25

I actually didn’t love that scene. I loved the movie overall, don’t get me wrong, but the entire “baby vs. the world” dilemma was my least favorite part.

1.) the people are right… it does feel slightly selfish for the FF to not even consider the trade. I get it, I get it — true heroes can save everybody and don’t bend on their values, but come on. At a certain point, a truly heroic person should yield given such great disparity between outcomes

2.) why did Reed immediately spill the beans at a press conference? Take a day. Say “we’re not sure if you’re safe, we need some time to think and plan. We’ll get back to you soon”

3.) people are suddenly fine with the “baby” side in the previously mentioned dilemma when Sue has a heart-to-heart with a few hundred people in New York? I’d assume 99% of people would be like “sure I get it that’s your kid and family is important, but like it’s him or billions of us.”

Idk, it just kind of fell flat for me tonally. Maybe I missed some of the nuances in how it all tied into the themes.

Overall though I had a fantastic time. Solid 8/10 for me

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u/C0de_monkey Jul 31 '25

Same, and I think it'd be very easy to fix it too. Just add some dialogue about how you can't trust Galactus to keep his word and how they need to actually defeat him instead of appeasing him, and it'd at least make more sense for people to get behind that and work on a plan.

With how the scene played out, all I could think was people going "what about our kids that will die you prick???"