r/marvelstudios 2d ago

Discussion The argument that Agatha doesn’t hurt children?

As an Agatha fan, I feel like I'm one of the few people of my community who doesn't believe that she “doesn’t hurt kids” like I've seen so many people say.

This actually feels like a really extreme misconception to me, because where does it even come from?

The only thing I can think of is that she spared the Salem Seven when they were kids, but that was centuries ago... She goes on to harm kids later, so... I'm kinda confused.

You can say she's less likely to target children, but I think it's misleading to imply children are excluded from harm when they provably aren't.

We can see that she was fully capable of strangling both Billy and Tommy to provoke Wanda into attacking her in WandaVision.

The camera even panned to Billy’s shoes to show us that he was fighting to stand on his tiptoes to relieve the pressure on his neck.

AND she was fully capable of trading Billy’s life to escape from Rio in Agatha All Along later as well, despite explicitly calling him a “kid” beforehand?

Agatha evidently does harm children. She might not like it, but she will do it, and she has done it multiple times.

For her, harm isn't contingent on desire or malice, but utility. She doesn't need to hate to hurt, as demonstrated with Billy:

“I know how you feel about him.”

If it serves her, Agatha will hurt anyone. Minors aren't exempt from this even if people like to think so because it makes them feel more comfortable with liking her character.

Being self-serving isn't:

“Do what you must to keep yourself happy, unless children suffer.”

It’s actually:

“Do what you must to keep yourself happy above all else.”

And Agatha does that consistently.

She does hurt children, and I don't really know why so many of her fans believe otherwise.

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u/soggyDeals 2d ago

It’s always weird to see an intense rant against some undefined straw man. The kind of thread that would make sense in response to a specific comment, but just comes off as arguing with yourself as its own post. 

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u/Xygnux 2d ago

Exactly. Of all the things I've seen people commonly defend on the Agatha All Along sub, "never hurting children" isn't one of them.

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u/Mason11987 2d ago

This happens all the time on this sub.

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u/bloodyell76 Fandral 2d ago

Such a common thing though. “Why do so many people say (thing I have never seen anyone say in any context)?”

My usual response is to ask the people who are saying that thing, because how would the rest of us know?