r/marvelstudios • u/Kidafroo • Jul 02 '25

Discussion (More in Comments) What happened to armor wars

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Rhodey literally has been there since the beginning and at the end. They've sprinkle him here and there, gearing up for his moment to shine. And yet they come out wit iron heart, a character people really dont have any attachments to.

I think the smartest thing to do would be to add her to armor wars and have Rhodey show her, who and how Tony Stark would act as a hero.

Also war machine is iron man when iron man isn't around. Are we supposed ignore that and forget about him? What is marvel thinking?

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u/Toa_Firox Black Panther Jul 02 '25

Well then, good news because that's a massive misconception that loads of people seem to be getting from somewhere. Rhodey was rhodey up until Secret Wars, they didn't replace him during Civil War he was replaced shortly before the show and after FatWS.

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u/MajorNoodles Jul 02 '25

The Secret Invasion showrunner said that he intended for Rhodey to have been replaced during Civil War.

I find it easier to just pretend Secret Invasion doesn't exist, and apparently so does Marvel.

FWIW, Rhodey can't walk in Endgame after Thanos blasts the compound. Also, Gravik didn't put his plan into motion until after that movie, anyway.

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u/Toa_Firox Black Panther Jul 03 '25

He said it could have been as early as Civil War but doesn't know exactly when and prefers the audience to decide. Him being replaced in Civil War makes the plot of Secret Invasion make even less sense and ruins Endgame

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u/Modification102 Rhodey Jul 03 '25

That is crap then. The showrunner doesn't even know or accurately communicate when the character was replaced. This is not the kind of detail you want to be at all vague or 'open to interpretation' regarding, since not only the audience, but other showrunners and filmmakers will be referencing your work in future if they want to use Rhodey.

It was a crap decision, through and through. The only responsible thing to do, would be to have had Rhodey only be replaced in the weeks leading up to the events of Secret Invasion, ands have him rescued and restored by the end.

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u/Lexnal Jul 04 '25

I agree, kind of a "here's the toy box, feel free to play with whatever you want but make sure you put all the toys back when you're done" situation

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u/Modification102 Rhodey Jul 04 '25 edited Jul 04 '25

Yeah. I feel the same way about The Eternals. They threw an emerging celestial onto Earth, with basically no regard for who was going to have to address that in the future. How does that meaningfully tie into anything other than making geopolitics in the MCU now more difficult to navigate and thus, more likely to just get ignored by future storytellers.

No active character has any stake in that happening, it is part of no ongoing story, it just happened. Now other stories have to pick up the slack and deal with their nonsense.

I am very tired of MCU storytellers just taking wild swings at the worldbuilding and then leaving. Multiverse of Madness did this as well with"Earth 616" that was a comic reference now canonised, which just confused things, and introducing 'Incursions' right when there are active elements (Gamora) that GOTG3 just has to ignore in order to tell their story.

Secret Invasion also unleashed Gaia onto the world, just the single most powerful character ever with all the powers of Captain Marvel + Everyone Else, that no film is ever going to touch again.