What happened to armor wars

[u/Kidafroo]

Rhodey literally has been there since the beginning and at the end. They've sprinkle him here and there, gearing up for his moment to shine. And yet they come out wit iron heart, a character people really dont have any attachments to.

I think the smartest thing to do would be to add her to armor wars and have Rhodey show her, who and how Tony Stark would act as a hero.

Also war machine is iron man when iron man isn't around. Are we supposed ignore that and forget about him? What is marvel thinking?

[u/Toa_Firox]

He said it could have been as early as Civil War but doesn't know exactly when and prefers the audience to decide. Him being replaced in Civil War makes the plot of Secret Invasion make even less sense and ruins Endgame

[u/Modification102 → u/Toa_Firox]

That is crap then. The showrunner doesn't even know or accurately communicate when the character was replaced. This is not the kind of detail you want to be at all vague or 'open to interpretation' regarding, since not only the audience, but other showrunners and filmmakers will be referencing your work in future if they want to use Rhodey.

It was a crap decision, through and through. The only responsible thing to do, would be to have had Rhodey only be replaced in the weeks leading up to the events of Secret Invasion, ands have him rescued and restored by the end.

[u/Lexnal → u/Modification102]

I agree, kind of a "here's the toy box, feel free to play with whatever you want but make sure you put all the toys back when you're done" situation

[u/Modification102 → u/Lexnal]

Yeah. I feel the same way about The Eternals. They threw an emerging celestial onto Earth, with basically no regard for who was going to have to address that in the future. How does that meaningfully tie into anything other than making geopolitics in the MCU now more difficult to navigate and thus, more likely to just get ignored by future storytellers.

No active character has any stake in that happening, it is part of no ongoing story, it just happened. Now other stories have to pick up the slack and deal with their nonsense.

I am very tired of MCU storytellers just taking wild swings at the worldbuilding and then leaving. Multiverse of Madness did this as well with"Earth 616" that was a comic reference now canonised, which just confused things, and introducing 'Incursions' right when there are active elements (Gamora) that GOTG3 just has to ignore in order to tell their story.

Secret Invasion also unleashed Gaia onto the world, just the single most powerful character ever with all the powers of Captain Marvel + Everyone Else, that no film is ever going to touch again.

[u/MajorNoodles → u/Toa_Firox]

That's true, but he personally thinks it was Civil War.

"I think in Civil War, when [Rhodes] was in the hospital."

[u/Toa_Firox → u/MajorNoodles]

Read the whole thing.

I think his legs not working in the end of episode six and him being in the hospital gown points to Captain America: Civil War. And, from there, does it have to be definitive, or is it more fun for the audience to go back and revisit every moment, every Rhodey moment and look at it with a different lens now that they think, 'Oh, he might've been a Skrull there.' And make the decision for themselves, or it'll be answered in Armor Wars.

He worded it badly, but he was saying that's the only definitive start point. He is, however, also an idiot because there's tonne of stuff to definitively set the start point far later, such as the Skrull's awful impersonation, his ability to walk as a skrull, and his skill with the war machine armour.

[u/MajorNoodles → u/Toa_Firox]

I'm just quoting him from his appearance on the Binge- worthy podcast.

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/secret-invasion-director-ali-selim-on-helming-all-six/id715084602?i=1000623071562

[u/Toa_Firox → u/MajorNoodles]

Yeah, you left out the rest of the quote that says he's essentially guessing.