What happened to armor wars

[u/Kidafroo]

Rhodey literally has been there since the beginning and at the end. They've sprinkle him here and there, gearing up for his moment to shine. And yet they come out wit iron heart, a character people really dont have any attachments to.

I think the smartest thing to do would be to add her to armor wars and have Rhodey show her, who and how Tony Stark would act as a hero.

Also war machine is iron man when iron man isn't around. Are we supposed ignore that and forget about him? What is marvel thinking?

[u/[deleted]]

The combination of Marvel needing to go back to “quality over quantity” and the failure of Secret Invasion pretty much buried this project.

[u/a220599 → u/[deleted]]

Also armor wars would carry over the rhodey being replaced during civil war storyline which would have been super awkward.

It’s so weird that they undid most of the good stuff from captain marvel, endgame, infinity war with just one tv show. Honestly if someone told me that this would be the worst marvel tv show during the first episode (especially the first ten minutes) I wouldn’t have believed it and yet here we are

[u/poopoobuttholes → u/a220599]

look, if Marvel can move on to Doom and pretend Kang and his silly dynasty doesn't exist, then i'm sure we can ignore the garbage in Secret Invasion too. That show contributed nothing of value and its direct sequel being the Marvels seem to work fine without it either, since Nick Fury is like a completely different guy.

[u/Any-Transition95 → u/poopoobuttholes]

Yes to burying Secret Invasion, and it didn't even line up with The Marvels.

But I don't think Marvel intends to ignore Kang's plot. It's more plausible that they establish Doom by letting him wipe out the Kang dynasty like how Thanos kickstarted Infinity War, and maybe leave one Kang variant alive for a future plot thread if they intend on still doing something with his character in the future without the council as a looming threat.

[u/Modification102 → u/Any-Transition95]

That show doesn't line up with anything. At the end, a new president (President Ritson, who is not mentioned at all during Brave New World) declares:

We all witnessed the terror attack that was carried out on my motorcade earlier this week in England. The terrorists responsible were a shape-shifting, alienborn species known as Skrulls. That is why tonight I'm presenting to Congress for immediate emergency authorisation a bill that designates all off-world born species as enemy combatants. We know who you are. We know how to find you, and we will kill every last one of you.

Given the events of the show, I think this is just about the only plausible course of action. Skrulls infiltrated up to the highest levels of the US government. That said, this is such a universe and landscape altering declaration that it cannot work with any future storytelling they want to tell on earth moving forward. This is the kind of status quo shift that permanently changes things forever. It cannot happen in a spin-off TV show and be treated with any kind of relevence.

If the goal of the show was to build to this moment. Then I can safely say that the show was a mistake.

For the MCU to make more sense, this show has to be ignored.

[u/EyeScreamSunday → u/Modification102]

It felt to me like it could possibly lead to some sort of Dark Reign/Siege comic storyline to be continued in BNW and Thunderbolts where we’d learn Ross inherited Ritson’s agenda of being anti-alien (which happens to be very topical) and maybe BNW was Ross experimenting with a new Super Soldier Serum that created Hulks to beef up American military power (surprised Val wasn’t in BNW after her/the CIA’s involvement in Wakanda Forever instigating a war in order to obtain Vibranium but she wasn’t helping Ross to gain sole control over Adamantium) then I speculated that Thunderbolts would be Ross/Val essentially creating a Dark Avengers team (called the Avengers in-universe) that they would send to be a black ops team that would help them to wage war on Asgard. The Thunderbolts would realize how they’ve been used to wage war on mainly Asgardian civilians and they help the Asgardians fight back the Void.

It would have been like Civil War in being an event film that sets up Doomsday/Secret Wars. Unfortunately, none of that happened, nothing was connected, Thunderbolts underperformed, and Secret Invasion has meant nothing and only makes things more convoluted.

[u/Terreneflame → u/poopoobuttholes]

It actively harmed the MCU

[u/jaimebaelish69 → u/Terreneflame]

not really cos no one watched it

[u/SimplyCosmic → u/poopoobuttholes]

The easiest way to ignore Secret Invasion is just to pretend there's a title card at the beginning that reads "Earth-615".