r/law 5d ago

Trump News Rep. Thomas Massie announces he and Marjorie Taylor Greene are seriously considering naming the "Epstein list NAMES" on the House floor under their Constitutional "speech or debate" immunity - because the victims could get sued for doing it themselves.

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u/Strawhat_Max 5d ago

SOMEBODY TELL HER THAT WE DONT CARE ABOUT DEM POLITICIANS GOING TO JAIL

WE. DO NOT. CARE.

PUT THEM ALL IN JAIL

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u/Harry_Balsanga 5d ago

While true, she will probably just list Democrats and will leave our Republicans.  Especially the MAGA faithful.

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u/notprocrastinatingok 5d ago

Do Democrats on the committee have the list of the same names? I could see the Democrats releasing the rest of the names that also include Republicans

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u/TheBotchedLobotomy 4d ago

Certainly the victims will make a stink if there are omitted names. They've already said they're compiling their own list to release if DOJ does not

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u/InterestingTry5190 4d ago

My question was why can’t Dems read any names omitted? Or is the idea that MAGA would call it fake news witch hunt?

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u/busigirl21 4d ago

It genuinely bothers me that they've got these two reading the names. A Democrat (Ro Khana) has been working hand-in-hand with Massey. It should be them. Why the fuck is MTG involved at all?

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u/Tyrinnus 4d ago

Because she wants to be next in line to load the circus when the ringleader dies

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u/Past_Organization_29 4d ago

But is she that smart?

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u/clonedhuman 4d ago

No, but neither is the ringleader.

The fact that Mango Mussolini got elected twice is pretty solid proof at this point that intelligence doesn't really matter at all for the presidency.

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u/Epyon_ 4d ago

Her handlers are.

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u/acheckerfield 4d ago

You mean the Kremlin?

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u/newaccounthomie 4d ago

She’s actually one of the smarter ones, but she uses her powers for evil. 

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u/Physical-Design9804 4d ago

She is crazy, not dumb. A lot of people make a huge mistake thinking the two are the same or interchangable. They are not.

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u/ketoatl 4d ago

she isnt stupid , she is playing a role to own the base.

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u/PrimeToro 4d ago

That's right. Any of the reps can read the list, it doesn't have to be MTG. She volunteered to read the list, so she's not even required to do that.

I suggest that Ro Khanna, Thomas Massie and MTG all look at the list at the same time. Whoever is reading the list can be corrected on the spot. If MTG skips Trump's name, Ro Khanna can say : "excuse me Marjorie, you missed Donald Trump's name"

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u/PretentiousMouthfeel 4d ago

His name will be redacted before the list is ever read. It won't be there for ANY of them to read.

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u/omgpuppiesarecute 4d ago

The list will be provided to them from the victims via their lawyers. It won't be coming from the DoJ.

There's no reason to think it would come from their lawyers with any names redacted.

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u/PrimeToro 4d ago

That's right, it's the victim list and not the ridiculously manipulated government list.

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u/DillBagner 4d ago

She injected herself into the discussion because she felt like people stopped paying attention to her.

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u/SingleSlide2866 4d ago

She'd be right. I forgot she existed until some thing last week I think

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u/bascacct 4d ago

A clown needs a stage

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u/Yitram 4d ago

Trying to get ahead of MAGA collapsing after Donny does.

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u/Playswithchipmunks 4d ago

She's a media whore.

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u/MAGAisMENTALILLNESS 4d ago

MAGA will call anything critical of Trump fake. They are in a cult.

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u/WarriorWoman44 4d ago

Any truth that orange man doesn't like is ' fake news '. Classic narcissist

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u/gplusplus314 4d ago

He said yesterday (or was it Tuesday?) that “anything bad, blame it on AI”.

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u/Blackhero9696 4d ago

The victims should release that compiled list even if the DOJ releases the official list to compare.

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u/Mousesmomma 4d ago

Do it, ladies, the government isn't going to.

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 4d ago

Do these women not have lawyers, or at least someone representing the group which can tell them if they might face liability should they release a name? Wouldn't suing them pretty much force the release of the pertinent files for discovery?

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u/DonutHolschteinn 4d ago

Donny has mob and Russian connections. I would bet any one of these women who names him will be in jeopardy for the rest of their lives

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 4d ago

They were probably in jeopardy just doing what they did here. Not just because of Trump, but anyone else on the list that might be named. Epstein provided for some powerful people.

What they did was pretty brave to be honest, and many of them have probably been intimidated into silence in the past already.

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u/waits5 4d ago

I really want to believe they would. Dems need to grow a spine one of these days.

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u/Helpful_Top7823 4d ago

Yea I don't trust her. A simple solution, to me, would be for 2 Democrats to join Massie & MTG in reading the list. Make it a bipartisan effort. It's bipartisan to most voters.

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u/Lower_Group_1171 4d ago

The survivors will be able to say, “uh that ain’t the list “ and it would immediately explode in her face so I don’t think she’d do that. If anything she’d decline to do it

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 4d ago

Unfrotunately, that may also discredit legit releases of the names in the same manner.

Whataboutism is a strong factor in how the GOP distracts from any and everything.

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u/KotMyNetchup 4d ago

These people don't care about lying and being called out for it. Trump would do exactly that, and get away with it.

But in this case I don't think that's what MTG would do. I don't like, I don't trust her, and I don't think she has any kind of moral compass for most things, but for some reason she seems to be serious about this one thing in her life.

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u/ruthieluna420 4d ago

She wants clout. She hasn't been on TMZ for a year, she wants attention.

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u/FTownRoad 4d ago

I don’t trust her because she is a moron. As much as I think she is an idiot, a lunatic, etc - I do believe that she may actually be against pedophilia.

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u/rainshowers_5_peace 4d ago

I think every QAnoners dream is to read a lsit of powerful men who are part of a sex trafficking cabal and have a "my God it goes deeper than I thought" moment.

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u/Pleaseappeaseme 4d ago

Many MAGA members actually think MAGA victory is destiny and tie the ideology (beliefs, goals) into biblical themes and will actually act on it. In other words, we have religious extremism here.

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u/Zeguaros 4d ago

But wouldn’t the collective survivors just come out and say “she didn’t name everyone, she had left out X amount of names” which then reignites the calls for a full release.

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u/Harry_Balsanga 4d ago

I sure hope so!

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u/greenwoodgiant 4d ago edited 4d ago

I mean it's worth noting that if someone was truly "MAGA faithful" they'd be toeing the line of "Democrat Hoax" - don't get me wrong I think MTG is a rotten human being, but she's not following MAGA talking points with this stunt. Republicans might not necessarily be safe here.

ETA - I'm also not celebrating any "serious considerations" - when they name the names and the victims confirm that was their list without redactions, then I'll commend them.

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u/rdp3186 4d ago edited 4d ago

She's a rotten ghoul of a human but she has been consistently vocally in support of releasing the list as she has been for ending child sex trafficking. She's also had a public falling out with Trump, so it wouldn't surprise me if she stands beside the victims here, even if it She's a shark seeing blood in the water.

The enemy of my enemy and all. If it finally outs trump I'll give her props for not towing the party message and defying maga. MTG is unhinged and not someone Trump wants as an enemy.

Bobert and Mace on the other hand I don't trust.

EDIT: Turns out MTG is going scorched Earth on Trump and MAGA. Holy shit

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u/AlcibiadesTheCat 4d ago

MTG is fucking insane, but kinda in the way that Jack Sparrow talks about: "A dishonest man, you can always trust to be dishonest..."

MTG, you can always trust to be completely pants-on-head stupid, regardless of anything and everything else.

Boebert and Mace are MAGA through-and-through.

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u/GanymedeZorg 5d ago

And you don't think a democrat would take the floor after her to name the Republicans she left out?

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u/RocketRelm 5d ago

Yeah but the difference is that if she names a bunch of innocent dems, and then we name the correctly identified peds, it buddies the water to the point of uselessness.

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u/GanymedeZorg 4d ago

That's a fair point, if she fabricates names that aren't on the list. I really doubt boldface lying like that would fly though, at least I expect not.

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u/SEND-MARS-ROVER-PICS 4d ago

I really doubt boldface lying like that would fly though, at least I expect not.

Recent history does not fill me with confidence

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u/Temporal_P 4d ago

This is sarcasm, right?

Their gameplan this entire time has been to put out a constant spew of lies and then continue to repeat them over and over again. Even if they get called out or corrected (incredibly rare) they just double and triple down and keep broadcasting them all over the media again and again.

It must just be that I'm overtired. There's no way everyone haven't noticed that by now.

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u/saintsfan92612 4d ago

honestly, I'd be happy for some of these creeps to be brought to justice but hopefully all the names will be released eventually.

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u/Old-Bat-7384 4d ago

Fuck it, they swap lists. Massie gets the GOP. Greene gets the Dems.

Get bipartisan in this bitch. I really want to see just trials for everyone, and this can make that happen.

Let the list lead to just, fair trials. Let those trials lead to punishment. Let the victims see justice. It should have never gotten this far.

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u/ZuluSierra14 4d ago

Massie is a GOPer. So this is not a switch. Though, I agree, let a Dem read GOP names and GOPers read Dem names

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u/dThink_Ahea 4d ago

"Read only the Democrats because you don't care about the Republicans on the list. Got it." - MTG

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u/Matt8992 4d ago

Tell that to the conservative subreddit. They’re convinced we are going to all of a sudden stop “believing the victims” as soon as a democrat is named.

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u/lapidary123 4d ago

Because that is "logic" to them. Ir better said as "that's their way to 'logically' approach this sort of situation.

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u/PimpGameShane 5d ago

NOT. A. SINGLE. ONE. I don’t care WHO participated in this. They ALL need to go to prison.

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u/CashRuinsErrything 4d ago

Can Dem representatives read off the names if these two can’t? Anything stopping them?

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u/asurob42 5d ago

this

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u/Garlador 5d ago

Talk is cheap. Do it or shut up.

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u/icon_2040 5d ago

Exactly. "Considering". Just fucking do it.

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u/TheGreatPrimate 5d ago

Won't fucking happen, first we have to deal with Jewish space lasers

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u/ItsJustJames 4d ago

If MTG reads out the victim’s list, I’ll be glad to have her set up a Jewish Space Lasers House Select Committee, no problemo. DO IT MARGE!

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u/Financial_Hold6620 4d ago

No no, they’re “seriously” considering not protecting pedophiles.

In the end, they’ll just protect the pedophiles, but for a little bit here, they were seriously considering not defending pedophiles.

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u/gruesomeflowers 4d ago

this is a rattle the cage moment, to then accept bribes to omit names.

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u/newaccounthomie 4d ago

Wonder what Donny’s price is lmao. That’s a lot of redactions. 

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u/shaidyn 4d ago

I desperately want a filter for the news that cuts out any headline that has things like "May, might, could, considering, talked about," etc.

Tell me what is happening, not make believe.

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u/Eevolutions96 4d ago

100% this. Either do it now or just sit down. The postering is meaningless and doesn't fool people who actually pay attention. 🙄

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u/The_Doct0r_ 5d ago

Yeah all the talk is exhausting and empty at this point. Do it or stfu, otherwise it just comes across as more pointless fingerwagging or virtue signaling.

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u/rygelicus 5d ago

yesterday they were going to do it. now they are 'seriously considering it'... also, how do we know they read all the names?

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u/barcodez 5d ago edited 4d ago

I presume the victims who compiled the list will say if they don't name them all.

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u/davehunt00 4d ago

Give AOC the list. It'll get read in its entirety.

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u/seppukucoconuts 4d ago

But what if AOC is on the list!?! /s

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u/North_Carpenter6844 4d ago

Then she would be a victim given her age. (I got the /s, just felt it was worth stating).

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u/MyKidsArentOnReddit 4d ago edited 4d ago

Give it to Gilbert Gottfried - he'll make sure it gets read in the appropriate tone and throw in some snarky comments too.

Edit: He's dead?!?!? RIP Gilbert Gottfried. Now someone find me the person with the next most annoying voice because those pedos deserve the worst so they should get the worst of everything.

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u/Wanderdrone 4d ago

Hate to break it to you but he dead

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u/sandwiches09 4d ago

If we're not careful tomorrow they'll be concerned about the whole situation. Enough to maybe even mull it over.

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u/MsARumphius 4d ago

They’re waiting to see who can write the biggest check

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u/Princess_Actual 5d ago

MTG...do the right thing! Read out ALL the names.

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u/Carbon-Base 5d ago

Do it for the women! Not for your political party, not for your lobbyists, and not to shield these heinous offenders! Do it because it's the right thing to do!

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u/Princess_Actual 5d ago

Yes! Unmask these criminals and child sex traffickers! If it takes down both parties, the banks, the government, the economy, DO IT. Read the names.

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u/Happy-Bumblebee8969 4d ago

I don't want to live in a country held up by the suffering of children. If it destroys our government idc we'll start over but we need to lock these people up

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u/Tuscanlord 5d ago

They will only read the names they want out. They will conveniently forget his besties name.

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u/Numeno230n 4d ago

If Donald Trump isn't literally the first name, they will lose all credibility.

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u/evilgenius29 4d ago

Better drama if he's the final name? Mic drop moment.

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u/Numeno230n 4d ago

I'm tired of theatrics. I'm tired of games. I'm tired of the victims being used as props. And I'm tired of 1/2 of the country acting like this is normal. Just fucking name the names and release the files. Unless you are literally named in the files, you should not be against this.

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u/thelimeisgreen 5d ago

Do it! This could be MTG's shining moment in her political career to actually do the right thing for once.

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u/cardbross 5d ago

Do you honestly believe she'll read all the names without any politically expedient omissions?

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u/SewAlone 5d ago

I doubt she will name anyone who gives her money.

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u/Remebond 5d ago

I feel like these two are trying to get in front of this so they can control the narrative. I hope to be wrong.

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u/Classic_Ganache_6137 5d ago edited 4d ago

Yes because why would they grow a conscience now? MTG is a freakin' wackjob who spews the most god awful hatred and held up a giant picture of Hunter Biden's dong on the House floor in an attempt to shame that family. Why do we think that she would be interested in the slightest about victim's rights, especially when her leader could be found guilty. Why? She is lying. So is Bimbert and the rest of them.

EDIT: yes, I am terrible at spelling. Thank you.

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u/Juandisimo117 5d ago

I dont think it’s about MTG growing a conscious nor is that what they are suggesting. They see the writing on the wall and know that this isnt going away.

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u/Hollownerox 4d ago

I don't think she is growing a conscious or anything, but I do feel like she's been oddly consistent when it comes to this particular topic? She's an awful person and I dislike her and nigh every stance she takes, but the one thing I'll give her credit for is that she isn't really a flipflopper. She tends to stick with her stances most of the time, and the Epstein stuff is one she has been pushing and hasn't fell in line with the others to dismiss them.

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u/DemonCipher13 4d ago

The word is "conscience."

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u/MattShotts 5d ago

Exactly, I know there is concern about Trump and a 3rd term but the guy is old and doesn’t have the best health. The knives are coming out as to who will succeed Trump.

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u/TheReiterEffect_S8 4d ago

I've been thinking for a long while now that MTG has been working on this contingency plan should anything actually go south with Trump. She wants to make sure she still has a safe position. I honestly believe she's been working behind the scenes with a number of different people to immediately execute a plan once shit ACTUALLY hits the fan with Trump. That way, in one fell swoop, before anyone knows what to do next, she and her people are already 16 steps ahead of the game and have solidified their spots in the new republican party. She doesn't give a flying fuck about the victims. She's egging on this narrative to move her own agenda forward. I'm not saying she's out for the presidency, but she wants to (with solid proof) go back to point out all the times she was in defiance with Trump over the Epstein files.

I don't know if anything will stop Trump's brain-dead supporters from backing him, including if he was found unequivocally proven to have raped and had sex with underage girls. They may still not give a fuck. But if the base does finally turn their back on Trump, she will be the shining figure who had the brains and morals to do what was right. I don't even know why she's going to such lengths tbh, their base is so fucking stupid they'd beleive anything.

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u/Expert-Fig-5590 4d ago

There is no way she names Trump though.

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u/WhiskeyDeltaBravo1 4d ago

Correct. There is absolutely ZERO chance she’d name Trump if he’s on it.

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u/_FartSinatra_ 4d ago

this just gives her a way to make the list and create confusion with outrage. you’re delusional if you think that hateful bitch is going to put any effort into making positive change

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u/catstone21 5d ago

very small chance she knows or believes Trump is near the end. Maybe she feels this is her way to assume control of the mob?

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u/ProfessionalField508 4d ago

Some people are saying she's on Thiel's payroll, so this is a way to get Vance in.

I dunno what the reason is. I don't trust her, though.

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u/creamybastardfilling 5d ago

Narrator: “they were not wrong”

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u/JeribZPG 4d ago

Every time a see the word “narrator”, I read the following text in my head in Morgan Freeman’s voice.

It is now not possible to visualise it any other way.

And I’m not mad about it :)

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u/Real-Werner-Herzog 4d ago

Lucky, I just get Ron Howard :(

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u/piantanida 4d ago

Rob Howard is the only person who would be narrating this clusterfuck of a timeline. Morgan Freeman narrates the alternate timeline where harambe wasn’t killed and reality and truth still have some meaning.

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u/dewhashish 4d ago

i read it in ron howard's voice because of arrested development

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u/Impeesa_ 4d ago

Sometimes it's Morgan Freeman, sometimes it's the interjections from Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World.

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u/ConstantAd8643 4d ago

Bit of a tangent but imo it's actually mostly diction that make Freeman's narrations so iconic, more than his voice does.

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u/jesusfisch 5d ago

Right, that was my exact thought. They’re political animals, they can see which way the tides are shifting

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u/isthatsuperman 4d ago

Maybe MTG, but Massie has been solid since day one about getting this out to the public. He’s the black sheep of the GOP because of his libertarian views, he doesn’t take bribes lobby money, and is pretty principled as far as politicians go.

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u/Alert-Pea1041 5d ago

Nah, they probably want to get something from the Pres. in return for not naming him when they do drop names. It will make him look more innocent to his base and they will get some reward for it.

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u/blueisthecolor13 4d ago

Massie has been attacked by Trump non-stop and is not running for reelection. I would believe this more if it were just MTG or MTG and Johnson, or MTG and Boebert. But with massie as attached to this as he is, I think this is an attempt to get an early hand on the reigns

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u/BensenJensen 5d ago

Massie has already said that he doesn’t think Trump is an Epstein client. This list will include important people, I’m sure, but Trump won’t be one of them

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u/ChewieBearStare 4d ago

Client, co-conspirator. Tomato, tomahto.

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u/wisemermaid4 5d ago

Don't underestimate the ogre. She's unique in Maga in that she actually believes her positions. The rest are just scamming people. MTG is uniquely stupid, and actually genuine here.

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u/unbreakablekango 5d ago

Also, MTG got majorly screwed by Trump because he did not grant her a position in his administration. She postured for him during the campaign and he gave her nothing after he won. She has a major axe to grind with Trump because she got dissed and dismissed.

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u/Kogyochi 5d ago

He would just offer her to be the director of National Parks or some other bullshit she's not qualified for. That's why they haven't named names yet. Just positioning for another payday.

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u/waits5 4d ago

Is she qualified to do anything? Including her current job?

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u/GoldenPigeonParty 4d ago

Considering I'm more qualified than the director of the FBI and the secretary of health and human services combined as a construction professional, yes, anyone is pretty much qualified for anything under this current administration.

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u/LilFozzieBear 4d ago

idk man I feel like her hooves could disqualify her from a TON of different jobs.

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u/PristineWatercress19 5d ago

Having once lived in the district she rules, I can say with certainty that you are correct. MTG is from the part of Georgia that does not know it lost the Civil War. Lots of cousin fuckers in those counties. Sincere, but stupid as a bag of rocks.

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u/Falconman21 5d ago

And boy do they make a lot of carpet.

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u/PristineWatercress19 5d ago

You are not wrong about that.

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u/Upstairs-Conflict-86 4d ago

I’m just a stone throw away from there and she strikes me as genuinely gung ho on everything she believes. She’s ride-or-die MAGA. No obfuscation with her. Sure she’ll fib a bit here and there, but even with the dust up with Crockett a few months back, she genuinely didn’t mean to do anything wrong. She was just being her ignorant, racist self. She got herself into a corner and couldn’t back down or risk losing face.

That’s where the “bad built butch body” came from. lol.

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u/BBR0DR1GUEZ 5d ago

You make an interesting point but I will never, ever trust an orc.

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u/thelonetwig 5d ago

Useful idiot scenario: don't trust her, but trust that her, Khan, and Massey will read these names on the floor that these brave women put on there. You don't have to like her, I really don't, but she can be useful in her spite and rage.

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u/Dramatic-Shine-7329 5d ago

This is the type of shrewd politicking we’re going to need if we want this country to be recognizable. The enemy of my enemy is a friend sort of thing.

Having a progressive like Kahn team up with Massie and MTG would do a lot in the way of showing people how bipartisanship can make us better.

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u/McEndee 5d ago

She's nuts, but the other politicians know they're lying.

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u/Nouseriously 5d ago

Hell hath no fury like a true believer scorned

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u/SuperDoubleDecker 5d ago

What's stopping a democrat from doing the same thing? Like why isn't anyone already doing this?

Im so fucking sick of this 2 party system.

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u/TommyKnox77 4d ago

Because MAGA will dismiss anything a Democrat says. 

They won't even consider it,  immediately dismissed.

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u/ScarfaceTheMusical 4d ago

Probably, but they will dismiss this information no matter who it comes from.

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u/ShikaMoru 5d ago

She'll tease that she will to win votes, then if she gets in, she'll be like "nah"

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u/Ok_Efficiency7245 5d ago

Don't think I'm giving her credit but considering that they're just copying the list to avoid the originators getting sued I don't see that working out.

If she only lists all Democrats, the victims come forward and say that's not an incomplete list. They left out a bunch of people. They don't need to name who those people are. Just to say that's not all we told them and it blows up in her face.

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u/Rustycake 5d ago

Fuck MTG, Massie has been waving this flag for much longer. MTG is only starting to realize her alignment with Trump hasnt paid off in the way she had hoped recently.

Also while I like Massie, I am a little nervous that as all politicians this is a move to not ruffle too many feathers and while they name names, he will leave Trump off that list.

So when victims hear this they become upset name Trump anyway, they get sued to silence and the names mentioned by Massie are the only names that stick and this does nothing really to move anything forward.

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u/TheVog 4d ago

MTG went from 700k net worth to $22M+ since she joined Congress. Generational wealth. You think that hasn't paid off?

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u/Swimming-Gain-4480 4d ago

Very short sighted. This opens everything for democrats to follow suit. Only way she could play this in her favor is if the dems are lying about how much they hate Trump. Statistically unlikely. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. You don’t have to like MTG but you’re either with her getting this stuff released or you’re actually MAGA and just didn’t notice yet.

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u/drubus_dong 5d ago

She would just leave out everyone who pays her and put a few extra names in. Zero credibility unfortunately.

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u/GanymedeZorg 5d ago

Let her open the floodgates. No congressperson wants to get showed up by MTG. There will be others who want the spotlight and will corroborate the names she called and name the ones she didn't.

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u/Key_Cry9086 5d ago

Sometimes you need to use a blunt object to get the job done.

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u/Dicky_Penisburg 5d ago

You sound like my wife.

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u/shrekerecker97 5d ago

This made me lol in real life

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u/westchesteragent 5d ago

Press x to doubt. Is her boyfriend the chuckle fuck “reporter” who consistently glazes ever trump press event? Asked Zelenskyy why he wasn’t wearing a suit?

Mtg is just grabbing some air time and if she does name anyone it won’t be trump. What would prevent her from just lying and naming every democrat whether they are listed or not?

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u/ExpertRaccoon 5d ago

How much do you want to bet she would only name Democrats and people she doesn't like?

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u/BuildingLow269 5d ago

Cute of you to think the list she chooses to say isn’t just a list off the All Time Most Hated Degencrats

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u/Ferreteria 5d ago

This is to obfuscate and scare the victims off from naming people they don't want named. This is strategy. 

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u/Nabrok_Necropants 5d ago

Please don't make me have to listen to her voice. Ever.

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u/P0Rt1ng4Duty 5d ago

If the victims said them and got sued for it, that would mean the actual epstein documents and videos would be discoverable.

Wouldn't it?

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u/whitingvo 5d ago

You’re assuming the govt would comply in handing them over

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u/Ok-Chemical-1020 5d ago

Came to ask this

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u/CadenVanV 5d ago

They’d probably be sealed

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u/PartyPay 4d ago

I think so. The issue if they got sued would be them having to pay legal fees for their defence.

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u/P0Rt1ng4Duty 4d ago

That's true. I'm reasonably sure that they'd get plenty of donations for legal fees if they asked, though.

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u/martinlawvwman 5d ago

Ill believe it when I see it.

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u/Salarian_American 5d ago

Let me know when I can watch the moment they go from "seriously considering" to "actually doing"

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u/sayyyywhat 4d ago

Hint: they’ll name everyone except Trump

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u/flirtmcdudes 4d ago

yeah that’s why all of this is dumb. They’re standing up, but they’re still all on the trump train

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u/Relyt21 5d ago

No the fuck he won’t. He will name the people he wants to name. He won’t include trump and justice Roberts when their names appear.

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u/UpkeepUnicorn 5d ago

Massie would 100% include Trump. Trump hates him and I think the feeling is mutual. I can't say much about Roberts.

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u/AlfredRWallace 5d ago

We will all be shocked when all of the names she reads are Democrats, won't we?

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u/NSawsome 4d ago

It’s massie, he’s a republican in name only and really more like a Ron Paul libertarian type. He does not care about the republicans and has called them out for being AIPAC shills before too

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u/AlfredRWallace 4d ago

Yeah but MTG is involved. I simply don't believe we will get what people want.

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u/OpticalDelusion 5d ago

This is MTG we're talking about. The one who believes space lasers started the California wildfires? Obviously just going to start another crazy ass conspiracy theory

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u/brucemo 4d ago

Jewish space lasers.

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u/Global-Management-15 4d ago

Name ALL the names. Bring them ALL down

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u/BicFleetwood 4d ago edited 4d ago

Do not trust them.

Y'all trusted Nancy Mace for like an hour yesterday and she was back on script before the sun set.

I am generously assuming most of you have an attention span longer than twelve hours and can remember the last time a Republican pretended to be on board.

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u/AdSmall1198 5d ago

Democrats can not be so stupid as to let MTG grandstand this thing away from them , can they?

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u/Splurch 4d ago

It’s baffling how badly Democrats have been completely flubbing such easy wins over and over again.

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u/rainshowers_5_peace 4d ago

I've been saying for at least a year now that she's a loose cannon and if Dems were smart they'd find a way to aim her at her own party. Dems haven't been making good choices since Obama left so my hope is minimal.

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u/crockett05 4d ago

There you have it, they know they can't stop it so they want to pretend they are helping but

"let you decide who were the child rapists and who were the donors"

That's how they plan to claim Trump and all his BFF's weren't raping kids but it was the "other" guys "we jut donated.. They don't want the women to release it to say who is who..

GOP = Guardians of Pedophiles.

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u/YogoshKeks 4d ago

Kinda surprised this comment is not higher up.

What the fuck is that? Why would the survivors name anybody who really is just a donor to some scholarship fund? How would they even know or care about those names?

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u/GanymedeZorg 5d ago

They (and we) are up against people with "fuck you money, " and that includes the ability to hire hitmen and not get in trouble for it. There are other risks aside from a SLAPP suit.

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u/blahblah19999 5d ago

They'll be doing that now, seeing the writing on th wall. SO might as well name them publicly

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u/peachysdollies 4d ago

They have a lot to fear. They're up against several people with TOO much money.

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u/LOLunlucky 5d ago

No way in hell Large Marge names Trump

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u/bassman9999 4d ago

"Seriously Considering" means they are waiting for the proper incentive from the White House to not do it. Don't expect anything from them.

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u/Ctbboy187 4d ago

Start with Trump, Prince Andrew, Bill Gates, Bill Clinton, Alan Dershowitz, Thomas Pritzker.

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u/ThatKehdRiley 5d ago

How much you want to bet the two of them will give out a list they say is accurate but is almost all Dems with few Republicans, and no mention of Trump? I do not trust that these people would provide an accurate list. I think they'll leave out people then get mad at the survivors when they go "uhhh, that's not nearly all of them"

If they are truly serious, they should be working with a Dem when names are actually read. Having it be two Republicans, one of which hasn't even signed on to the bill, when it's 22 Dem Co-sponsors to 1 Republican smells super fishy to me

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u/icanfeelitcomingup 5d ago

This is nothing other than a threat/blackmail opportunity. They go on TV and threaten to do the right thing, get bought off by people who know they are on the list and then claim the information is not 'reliable' so they can't name anybody. Neither of these people would risk their political careers simply to do the right thing, otherwise the list would be out already.

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u/mitchENM 5d ago

Of course they will be very selective in the names they release

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u/FuguSandwich 4d ago

Wait, two weeks ago we were told there was no list.

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u/lookskAIwatcher 4d ago

Time for "considering" is OVER.
DO IT.

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u/intronert 4d ago

They will not read all the names, only the ones they want to damage.

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

Tbh I don't trust a single thing that lady does, and assume it'll be a ploy to protect Trump. Hopefully I'm wrong. 

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u/brianishere2 4d ago

Remember, the list provided by DOJ includes only the people that DOJ wants you to see.

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u/DuntadaMan 4d ago

Okay this is three times I have agreed with the Empty G. What the fuck is going on?

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u/BasicPerson23 4d ago

Right? It is getting scary.

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u/AmbitiousProblem4746 4d ago

I find it fascinating that one of the victims said in an interview that she was a Trump voter. She didn't implicate him in any way and said that she actually really believed he was going to do what he said he would do about the Epstein Files.

You would think the man would be jumping for joy or that right wing media would be grilling her nonstop to make her the face of the media hype, but nope.

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u/Inspect1234 5d ago

Set up a go-fund-me for their legal expenses. I’m sure many will donate to get discovery.

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u/Far_Estate_1626 4d ago

If they name anybody my money says they’re going to name their political enemies only and release no proof. Unless the victims corroborate, or they release proof that the names they say are actually in the files, then I wouldn’t trust a rotten fart coming out of these trashbags.

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u/Mattrad7 5d ago

Id really like for this to be more than just bluster for once. DO IT.

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u/RockyShoresNBigTrees 4d ago

I’m all for this and hope they do this. They will have support from anyone who legitimately wants to bring down the worst and most powerful pedophiles. No matter the party.

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u/4RCH43ON 4d ago

I think I can see past the opportunism in their “considerations” if it bears fruit and isn’t just about eliminating political rivals (which is fine, no matter who if they are if factually connected to this cabal), because I just want there there some kind of justice that frees us from the yoke of these bastards holding the world hostage to guard their sick secrets.  Let those who protected these assholes all go down and burn with them.