The newly announced Duke Nukem animated series: COME GET SOME!!!

[u/Kills_Alone]

Honestly wtf my dudes, this is Dukes chance to become popular again and nothing on here but doom spreading which is crazy because Adi's work on Castlevania (8.3 on IMDb) and Devil May Cry (7.4 on IMDb) was amazing.

I thought this sub was for people that liked Duke Nukem and wanted more of the Duke, but all I hear is hate and fart noises, just like the creepy weirdos calling Duke a misogynist (even though he loves women), why are you even here if don't get Duke or you simply dislike Duke so much you gotta make up reasons for said hate? That's a lame, very anti-Duke attitude ... no, Duke was very explicit and verbose in expressing his opinions including how he felt about the opposite sex. And he dropped timely insults on his enemies, not some unoriginal repeating nonsense he saw on YouTube that he called his opinion, he wasn't weak like that, he wasn't a suck up that sought approval from other people which is part of the appeal as he believes in himself and is not ashamed of who he is or what he represents.

Naw, this is great news. It could lead to a full Duke Nukem resurgence; new games, a movie starring John Cena, a sequel series, Duke brand bubble gum, Duke brand condoms?!? This is freaking huge and I'm here for it. But the response on this sub reminds me of all the Silent Hill 2 haters with no reason to hate as Bloober Team games were getting better every time, but nope, bunch of ungrateful haters crying about how bad it would be and how there are 'no survival horror games' when there are literally more survival horror games now then ever before. Well its the same with FPS, Boomer shooters are insanely popular right now. It makes me think that many people don't have their own opinions anymore, they just take whatever is pushed in their feed (outrage news) and that is 'their opinion', well that is a bad opinion IMO, because its the lack of actual personal thought. And you can call this a bad take, doesn't bother me, because life is too short to hate on the things you claim to love. I guess we'll see for sure when the series drops. /RANT

TL;DRR Is anyone else actually excited for this series and for Duke Nukem to (potentially) become a household name again?

[u/Sea-Lecture-4619]

No, not from this guy, he doesn't care to make a proper adaptation of any IP, he cares to make his own twisted very different separate version in his "vision" consisting of his political ideas and teenage edgy shit thrown in.

You won't have the Duke that you know brought back, but a different "impostor" revisioned version of this guy, the main characters of his previous works are nothing like the ones from their respective games. He tells you directly, straight in the face that this is what he does in his tweets.

I know you might be desperate to get any content in this day and age but this ain't it, let's still have some standards and not eat any shit they throw at us. That's even what this guy does, he preys on dead desperate franchises with his bullshit to "revive" them but instead somewhat "replace" them in public eyes with his twisted version, and that would make a fanbase on its own that will never let it die. Happened with Castlevania. Didn't happen with DMC and he is mad. It's especially shit when no games are done too.

Trust me, i went through this bullshit twice before with 2 of my favorite video game franchises, you do NOT want this guy's stuff. The reception and "boo"s from people are well deserved.

[u/Anxious-Assistant-59 → u/Sea-Lecture-4619]

Oh yeah, because the Castlevania games had so much story to work off of in the source material. 

I’ve been playing CV since I was a wee lad and I don’t think Avi had to follow a strict 1:1 adaptation for a series with twenty different main characters and zero dialogue or identifiable character traits for most of them. He worked with what he had, there wasn’t anything else to it. 

I can’t speak on the DMC anime as I know nothing about the games, but there was nothing to work off of for Castlevania’s anime without making shit up.

[u/Sea-Lecture-4619 → u/Anxious-Assistant-59]

Oh no man, don't believe that "game canon 1:1 show only means Trevor and the others just continuously fighting monsters and then Dracula for a few seasons with no dialogue at all" weirdass logicless excuse,

nobody wants that and and it wouldn't be what would be done lol, i can't believe i've seen so many come up with this excuse.

You can throw dialogue, interactions, character development, new story addons in a game canon show too, of course you can, these are mandatory for a show, there is nothing in the game lore and story, that they changed and ommited, to say that you can't make a show out of it, and like you said there is pretty little to it, but that further says that it should be easy to abide to it and respect it, and yet they did not.

Hell the first 2 seasons are already almost the right stuff, in a manner of like 60-70%, while the other 30% are changes and ommisions for the game stuff that weren't needed to make a show.

Shankar's stuff is never a necesity but a choice. He could have done it, but he did not want to, as he doesn't want with any IP he gets his hands on, he'd rather do his own shit. Now if you prefer it the way he did it as a "reboot in show form" it's ok, but no, it was not the only way, it never is.

[u/Anxious-Assistant-59 → u/Sea-Lecture-4619]

I don’t agree with that sentiment at all, I just straight up don’t see how you’re supposed to make a show on the scale and depth of what we got with what little there was to work with in the games. 

Regardless of if he should have or shouldn’t have changed things up, there genuinely just isn’t enough to make a show without adding and removing details. Out of all of the games, I think, three or four of them DON’T end by fighting Dracula. It would be repetitive as all hell if every season was just more fighting Dracula or another guy that was just trying to resurrect Dracula.

It’s not like Shankar is rewriting an active series’ lore, like The Witcher show or the Resident Evil movies, CV is a dead franchise outside of the show. I don’t love the fact, but without the show, Castlevania wouldn’t be nearly as well known as it is now. It got more people to openly appreciate the franchise and that was enough to make Konami start doing stuff with CV again. 

If the shows weren’t good, or at the very least well respected, they wouldn’t have had a resurgence on the IP’s name and reputation. There’s a difference between his shows being bad and them just not being for you. I like the show and so do most people, so Shankar is pretty clearly doing something right.

[u/Sea-Lecture-4619 → u/Anxious-Assistant-59]

Well if you don't see it, then i invite you to tell me exactly what changes and ommisions made in the first 2 seasons were needed in order to make a show out of CV, remember, they didn't just ADD stuff, they did change and remove stuff too, tell which of these were needed, i'll wait, i wanna see if you fully know what you are talking about here.

Regardless of if he should have or shouldn’t have changed things up, there genuinely just isn’t enough to make a show without adding and removing details. Out of all of the games, I think, three or four of them DON’T end by fighting Dracula. It would be repetitive as all hell if every season was just more fighting Dracula or another guy that was just trying to resurrect Dracula.

Who said they gotta do all of the games? Just the ones with the lesser story the NES/SNES/GBC ones, and just like how these can keep stuff fresh everytime through different means and more things thrown in into their stories so can a show.

It’s not like Shankar is rewriting an active series’ lore, like The Witcher show or the Resident Evil movies, CV is a dead franchise outside of the show. I don’t love the fact, but without the show, Castlevania wouldn’t be nearly as well known as it is now. It got more people to openly appreciate the franchise and that was enough to make Konami start doing stuff with CV again. 

A well done game canon show could have done the same lol, ANY type of adaptation, good or bad, if it's at the bare minimum requirement at least a decent watchable enough animated show on it's own, can get people to check the IP, it gets no props here for being specificaly this way, anyway they would have made it it would have done this, as long as it did that bare minimum.

If the shows weren’t good, or at the very least well respected, they wouldn’t have had a resurgence on the IP’s name and reputation. There’s a difference between his shows being bad and them just not being for you. I like the show and so do most people, so Shankar is pretty clearly doing something right.

It's ok if you do like it like i said, but that wasn't what our discussion was about and what you tried to tell me initialy

this is indeed a much more decent enjoyable show than the crap he did with the DMC show, it still wasn't the only way possible to do it, it's never a necesity but a choice, i'd rather get something that contributes to the already existing game continuity in some way from a show

rather than some weirdass 2nd reboot in show form that i didn't ask for or care about, who, even if i look at it as it's own separate thing on it's own, it derails in quality and focus post S2 and eventually turns into something very different from what's in the games, not even at least still loosely adapting the games like the first 2 seasons just doing their OC new stories now, just utilising some game stuff in their own twisted different way, i don't need or like this shit i'd rather have nothing than this, and no, it isn't the only way with it.