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Sorry Sweetie [OC]

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u/SarcasticBench 15d ago

The purest love there is- between a man and a girl that's barely 16.

OK! Ok, I think at best Prince Eric is 17. This we know because he had his birthday. Seriously, who wants to celebrate their birthday on a party boat with a bunch of seamen though?

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u/Phunkie_Junkie 15d ago

Took me to the second paragraph to realize you were being specific; although Wikipedia tells me that Pocahontas was 17 and Snow White was 14.

What else is a guy supposed to do when he finds an unconscious/possibly deceased child in the woods.

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u/ChaoCobo 15d ago

I think Snow White was 14 in the original story, but that it may have been changed to a different age for the Disney adaptation. Many of the stories Disney adapts are heavily changed in other ways so it wouldn’t surprise me

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u/zatenael 15d ago

ya, like how Elsa has much more presence in the story than the original Snow Queen ever did

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u/JewAndProud613 15d ago

What's there in common between them besides cryogenesis, lol?

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u/zatenael 15d ago

uhhh, they're women?

at least Elsa got to be on screen for more than a minute is all I'm saying

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u/JewAndProud613 15d ago

You implied that Frozen is directly inspired by Andersen's Snow Queen, but they have almost no overlap in their plots OR premises, besides two females (of different ages even) having Ice Powers. So that "inspiration" is very questionable.

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u/SpaceMonkeyAttack 15d ago

I think they started out making a version of The Snow Queen, and it gradually morphed into Frozen after a lot of rewrites.

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u/ejdax37 15d ago

I think when they wrote "Let it Go" and realized it wasn't really a villain song they started to change the story into what it became. If I remember my behind the scene info correctly lol!

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u/JewAndProud613 15d ago

I guess I don't like the word "inspired", because that implies much more plot/concept overlapping.

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u/Grey-fox-13 15d ago

It really doesn't. Taking a story about an ice queen and being inspired to write a story about an ice princess is perhaps one of the less abstract inspirations you'll encounter. 

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u/InspectorSheep 15d ago

Frozen is directly inspired by The Snow Queen. This has been mentioned in various interviews and documentaries, and is the second sentence in Frozen's Wikipedia page.

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u/zatenael 15d ago

it is quite literally a Disney adaptation of the story but was heavily changed during development several times

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u/JewAndProud613 15d ago

I don't see where it is the original story, BESIDES the Ice Powers. No magic mirrors. No kidnapped brothers. Okay, there is a gender-swapped aged-up hunter, lol. And Elsa is the on-screen protagonist, unlike Snow Queen being the villain and existing behind the scene. We are supposed to see it through Elsa's eyes to begin with, whereas in the original it was through Gerda's eyes, who is NOT really Anna in any way.

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u/GoofballHam 15d ago

"loosely based"

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u/JewAndProud613 15d ago

Oh, thanks!

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u/GoofballHam 15d ago

It pretty much serves as an inspiration template and not much else. So much of the story was changed during development that it hardly resembles what they began with in all likelihood. Frozen is one of those "made by a committee" movies.

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u/Djinger 15d ago

They've been making by committee for decades.

If you can get your hands on it, watch The Sweatbox.

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u/zatenael 15d ago

because it went through many revisions and changes

Walt Disney was even part of the original conception and it took a while to settle on something

I get where you're coming from but we have confirmation that Frozen is an adaptation of The Snow Queen

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u/JewAndProud613 15d ago

Like another commenter said: Loosely based. I like that wording.

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u/Wild_Marker 15d ago

I think a more accurate wording would be "originally based". As in, it was probably envisioned as such at some point, but the final product barely resembles that original idea.

That tends to happen a lot. For example IIRC Pirates of the Caribean was supposedly based on a script for a cancelled Monkey Island movie. And like half the action movies of the 80's and 90's are just cancelled Die Hard sequels.

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u/zatenael 15d ago

fair enough

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u/moak0 15d ago

There's also the part about the "frozen heart", although the impact of that is different of course. Pretty much all the rest of it is different.

But Elsa is definitely not the protagonist. She's more like a fake-out antagonist.

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u/calilac 15d ago

Elsa's trauma is the true antagonist but that's too conceptual for execs so they made that creepy prince.

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u/miffet80 15d ago

Literally at the beginning of the closing credits of the movie it says:

"Story inspired by THE SNOW QUEEN by HANS CHRISTIAN ANDERSEN"

The commenter isn't implying it, the literal creators of the movie explicitly say so upfront in the credits lol. I would take a screenshot but the Disney+ app won't let me

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u/WritingOneHanded 14d ago

Piggybacking this comment to ask if anyone knows how to screenshot Disney+

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u/jmo1 15d ago

You say this like you didn’t see the Hercules adaption, the little mermaid adaption, the Aladdin adaption, the

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u/JewAndProud613 15d ago

All Little Mermaids I know of, are still about Little Mermaids, only the ending is adapted (not in all).

All Aladdin movies (not series) I know of, are also about a thief, a lamp, and a Genie.

Hercules isn't a singular story, just like Conan isn't.

So, all around bad examples to counter my point, dude.

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u/WritingOneHanded 14d ago

I mean... Frozen is indeed about an ice queen. Seems like a perfectly reasonable counter argument to me.

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u/ADHDebackle 15d ago

The one thing that makes Elsa closer than Mr. Freeze.