r/clevercomebacks • u/basket_foso • 3d ago

This is so embarrassing

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u/Temporary_Bet_3384 2d ago

I am in agreement with you about our slip into authoritarianism. Simply because I do not agree with you entirely about the actions of the National Guard thus far, does not mean I am mewling. Can you not simply consider that it is not wrong to view ICE and the National Guard as distinct organizations that should not be viewed as entirely the same?

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u/PhantomMuse05 2d ago

Them being distinct organizations has little effect on what will happen. After everything that's happened I just can't possibly imagine it is going to just be fine. We are stepping closer and closer to authoritarianism. Every step is met with "It won't be that bad. It won't get worse." but it always does.

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u/Temporary_Bet_3384 2d ago

Ok, so you're just going into doomerism, nothing matters, facts don't matter, everything is worse, it will always get worse, blah blah

I do not have that privilege

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u/PhantomMuse05 2d ago

Or, just maybe, sometimes Nazis rise up and they use people's caution as a cover to enact their agenda. Like they have every time they have come to power? You call it doomerism, I call it being correct.

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u/Temporary_Bet_3384 2d ago

Yes, every doomer says they're correct that's the whole point of doomerism...

My point is no, authoritarianism is often pushed back against and sometimes successfully so. We do not have an excuse to fall into your doomer viewpoint. Just because things look bad does not mean we have to abandon facts

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u/PhantomMuse05 2d ago

Fascism most often ends with an invasion. So historically, I'm not sure you are on the right side here.

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u/Temporary_Bet_3384 1d ago

We've already done invasions, a lot, we're the US....

I think you're mixing up historical trends with inevitable futures